Posted on 01/06/2018 6:40:14 PM PST by nickcarraway
That’s it
Ain’t cheep
Several times monthly seems to work best
1000/month
Insurance will pay about a third in my case
I had a doctor who had me on statins and a high dosage beta blocker. With the former I couldn’t walk, the latter turned me into a zombie. In less than a year I went from being a masters athlete to barely able to exercise. I got told that these were normal side effects, and I should have more realistic expectations at my age.
We’re home after 12 hour drive
It’s 13
I’m relaxed listening to Bach again and freeping
Rib is asleep next to me
No complaints
Fed horses just now....they are cold poor guys..my Hanoverian can handle it
My thoroughbred says let’s move to Ocala
Thank you for posting that.
I read somewhere that cholesterol is a building block for hormones.
Not just estrogen or testosterone but adrenal and most importantly, imo, THYROID hormone.
If thyroid hormone is deficient NOTHING in the body is going to work correctly.
All of the hormones work together in the body.
Everyone is different.
That leads me to believe that maybe some people might actually need more cholesterol than others.
Same was true of my mother who died at 96 and had horrible high BP......cholesterol off the chart..........
OTOH, my heathy doc, in his 60’s, no high BP or cholesterol not an ounce overweight says he so believes in statins he’s starting them soon.
I’m on Lipitor, provided good cholesterol, after having aortic valve replacement (bi-cuspid valve from birth) and triple bypass while they were doing the valve even tho I was a distance runner for most of my adult life until 69 when arthritis under my kneecaps (knees are fine) stopped my running.
Who knows? Arteriosclerosis is from inflammation of the arteries - not high cholesterol, and the inflammation is from sugars, including carbohydrates.......
My bad cholesterol is a bit high, but the “good” stuff is very low, so my overall score is low.
The neurologist gave me a prescription for baby aspirin and also some Atorvastation. He said that with the way we American’s eat (he was Indian/Asian) we should all be on statins.
After looking into it a bit more and talking with my doc, I'm just taking the aspirin (when I remember). My mother-in-law took statins for awhile and she said she was much more forgetful - she got spooked she was getting Alzheimer's! She heard from others and quit the statins, and is fine now.
I do keep telling myself to eat a little better and get more exercise.
She takes something else - some fruit or something.
I am 62 and my cholesterol is borderline high, even though I am a fitness trainer, a runner, and am mindful of my diet. My doctor had me get a calcium scoring test and the score was a lovely zero. Doc said, just forget the cholesterol level, you are totally fine, no statin needed. Which was great because I’d never take one, anyway.
Would you tell me more about the calcium scoring test?
It’s not covered by most insurances, but the test is quite inexpensive. Ask your doctor to explain it more fully to you and set up an appointment...quick and easy test.
‘m 65 - for several years, my doctors have “recommended” statins even though my cholesterol is at low levels - they claim that even with healthy cholesterol, men and men of my age, have ‘points added’ for what seems to be a “just because we’re supposed to push statins” type reason. I told them no thanks as I see no valid reason to put poison in my body because some recently revised charts say that I should take something that actually has no record of increasing life span or quality of life....we compromise as i will let them take blood next year to check my levels.....
What occurs to me is that the medical community is all for giving drugs because otherwise something might happen and you might die from it.
It’s almost like the implication is that they can help you live forever.
But nobody is getting out of here alive.
We’re all going to die sometime and the best thing to do is be prepared for THAT. If you’re ready to meet your Maker, then when your time comes, from whatever it is that takes you out, then you are good whether it happens sooner than you’d like or not.
“The conclusion: Maximally tolerated doses of high-intensity statins may confer a survival advantage to patients with atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease, including older adults.”
MAY is the operative word here. Not WILL confer survival advantage but MAY. I’m not taking them and don’t plan on taking any in the near future.
High dosage of fish oil (Omega 3) accompanying the Red Yeast Rice?
Healthy Origins Cholestene HPF?
Statins attack a symptom - collection of cholesterol in the arteries, by lowering the level of cholesterol in the blood by reducing the production of cholesterol by the liver. Upon finding the collection of cholesterol in the arteries, the assumption was made that “too much” cholesterol was produced. The other source of blood cholesterol, from the diet, is not effected by statins, and conversely diet alone can reduce the blood cholesterol levels without statins, as well as partially defeat the use of statins by consumption of too much high cholesterol foods. The total blood cholesterol is a combination from diet and what the liver produces. Statins only control the liver.
But it must be asked, first, is the liver off kilter? You have “high cholesterol? Not on statins? Try diet modification and see if you can get the numbers down, first. You might never need statins.
My test question for the doctor on any daily dose drug is “if I don’t take this drug will I die?”. I am not on any prescription medicine. :-)
“Healthy Origins Cholestene HPF?”
well, it’s not a concentrated extract, so maybe FDA is letting it slide by. Hard to say how much active ingredient is actually present, but amazon reviewers claim it’s present and that it works.
but two things in my opinion:
1. Watch out for the side-effects of lovastatin, as well as the side-effects of red rice yeast itself.
2. If you want to take lovastatin, you COULD buy it for $10 for a 90 day supply from Walmart. Of course, you’ll need a prescription, and if you do that, the best way is to get a 90 day script with 3 refills for the rest of the year.
At least that way, you get a drug who’s manufacture and potency are FDA certified, and you avoid any side-effects of the supplement itself, plus a one year supply is cheaper than the red rice yeast (if you don’t count the cost to go to a doctor).
“And yes, they’re also starting to admit that cataracts is a side effect”
a FOURTH dirty little secret then. increases chance of early-onset by 27%. AND you’re hosed if you don’t have insurance. At least if you make it to Medicare age, you’ll be covered for cataracts, and most people usually don’t get them until that age group anyway.
yes, statins are nasty, and even though i have severe CAD, i refuse to take them.
as to the lack of CoQ10, multiple research has shown it to be cardiovascular-protective, so in my opinion it’s practically medical malpractice to prescribe a statin without also prescribing CoQ10.
So, taking statins without CoQ10 simply trades one heart problem for another, PLUS inducing Type II diabetes, cataracts, and mental dysfunction.
They also have about a 100% chance of having prostate cancer.
Yep.
I had a heart attack 4 years ago. 100% blockage of an aorta.
Been on a statin since.
My youngest sister died just 6 weeks ago at the age of 56. Completely unexpected. She had a massive heart attack due to a blockage. The medical examiner said she probably wasn’t conscience more than a minute.
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