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Man disarms would-be church shooter, gets shot by police
Fox News ^ | March 2, 2018 | Caleb Parke

Posted on 03/02/2018 11:22:31 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

A man disarmed a would-be hostage shooter at a church in Amarillo, Texas, but when officers arrived, he was shot twice.

On Feb. 14, the same day the Florida school shooter killed 17 people, a gunman barged into the Faith City Mission during morning church service.

Police said the initial call just before 9 a.m. referenced an armed suspect holding approximately 100 people hostage in the chapel.

Just before police arrived, Tony Garces, a student at the city mission, snatched the handgun away from the would-be killer after others wrestled him to the ground.

“I took the gun away from a man who attempted to take others in the church hostage,” Garces told Fox News. “He already fired off one shot and I wasn’t going to let him fire again.”

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To: Bryanw92

I’m a big advocate of concealed carry and compete in action competition matches, but concerned about Susie Schoolteacher unholstering a Glock filled with 25 screaming kids. Active or retired military, US Marshal-type trained resources would be my choice.


21 posted on 03/02/2018 12:25:10 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Cobra64

One way to avoid armed teachers from being copshot is to have them work stark naked.


22 posted on 03/02/2018 12:29:05 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Cobra64

It’s not about arming school teachers. It’s about stopping the disarming of the ones that want to be armed.


23 posted on 03/02/2018 12:31:21 PM PST by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Too many of these stories. Philandro Castle in the car, that guy in the (Arizona?) Wal-Mart, the guy trying to knee-walk down the hotel hallway with his hands up, and now this guy, and others of course.

I’m starting to wonder if I find myself in that situation that I should just run for my life or pretend I don’t speak English or I’m deaf or something.


24 posted on 03/02/2018 12:35:05 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: bankwalker

First, we’re not talking about arming “all” teachers. And, secondly, I would hope, hope to Heaven above that teachers who do arm themselves are trained on what to do when the cops arrive so they don’t get shot themselves.


25 posted on 03/02/2018 12:36:16 PM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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To: LIConFem

Relying on the police in an emergency is fine if you have 15-20 minutes to wait.


26 posted on 03/02/2018 12:36:53 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Islam is Satans finest work.)
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To: Cobra64

>>I’m a big advocate of concealed carry and compete in action competition matches, but concerned about Susie Schoolteacher unholstering a Glock filled with 25 screaming kids. Active or retired military, US Marshal-type trained resources would be my choice.

So, a civilian can play with guns, but can not be trusted to use them in defense?

I get what you are trying to say, but this idolatry of police and military is as destructive to the Second Amendment as any gun grabber. I was a submarine electrician. By your standards, that prepares me to guard children, but 30 years of concealed carry and weekly practice as a civilian does not.

Or do you only mean combat vets? The ones with PTSD?


27 posted on 03/02/2018 12:37:14 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: I want the USA back

Even a boot-licker wouldn’t try that as a rebuttal.

So they thought our hero was the bad guy, and they were wrong. Your premise is accepted. Now we get to to the piss-poor “police work”: They told him to put the gun down, he started to put the gun down, and they shot him.


28 posted on 03/02/2018 12:39:37 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

It sounds like we agree.


29 posted on 03/02/2018 12:41:52 PM PST by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: New Jersey Realist

It’d be a good time to read the article.


30 posted on 03/02/2018 12:42:15 PM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: teeman8r

When they are not cowards, they shoot first. Shame on them not understanding what was going on before pulling the trigger.


31 posted on 03/02/2018 12:44:23 PM PST by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

And if you have 15 or 20 minutes to spare, one has to wonder how much of an emergency it was to begin with.


32 posted on 03/02/2018 12:48:55 PM PST by LIConFem (I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot accept.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Sacajaweau wrote: He was doing EXACTLY as he was told. Yes, but my point was a thinking person would not have to be 'told'. - He could/should have analyzed the situation he found himself in (and realized the possible dangers associated with these developments) ~ I posted earlier, "Heroic & Careless!" Gotsta luv homies like dat, esé... "In some places, "ese" (pronounced es-say) is just a slang way of refering to a guy. No different than dude, bro or man. [...] In short, ese can be a neutral term for any average guy or it can be a statement of one's gang affiliation." "In some places, "ese" (pronounced es-say) is just a slang way of refering to a guy. No different than dude, bro or man.
33 posted on 03/02/2018 12:56:56 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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To: heterosupremacist

You’re just making stuff up. There is this article and several others.


34 posted on 03/02/2018 1:07:52 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

35 posted on 03/02/2018 1:32:14 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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To: Sacajaweau

I was not ‘just making stuff up’ I only shared my personal experiences regarding the NYPD and men holding pistols in their hands.

img src=”https://d1lfxha3ugu3d4.cloudfront.net/images/tdp/28.596.jpg";>


36 posted on 03/02/2018 1:33:32 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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To: heterosupremacist

37 posted on 03/02/2018 1:34:32 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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To: heterosupremacist
GRRR!
38 posted on 03/02/2018 1:36:08 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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To: New Jersey Realist

“This sounds like BS to me. After he shot the guy with all the people around he would have holstered his weapon. Very unlikely the police were already there and mistook the situation.”

Maybe if you tried reading, you would understand what happened.
NOWHERE does it say he had his own gun, it was the perps gun and he hesitated putting it on the ground. So yeah, it sounds like the cops were a little trigger happy.


39 posted on 03/02/2018 1:37:22 PM PST by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
This is why I use a "Don't Shoot Me" security sash when working church security. LINK. Worth every penny of the $32 cost compared to friendly fire from LEO.
40 posted on 03/02/2018 1:45:55 PM PST by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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