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Why More Men Than Ever View Marriage as a Bad Deal
PJ Media ^ | 03/09/2018 | John Hawkins

Posted on 03/10/2018 7:18:24 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Georgia Girl 2
. If only women would just submit to men everything would be fine. If women would just blindly follow the man’s lead. If women would just STFU about helping with the housework. If women would just stop beotching because I can’t maintain an income stream. Blah, blah, blah!

Wow, that straw man doesn't stand a chance against you!

241 posted on 03/11/2018 9:26:28 AM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

It’s epidemic with women under 50, there are very, very few actual conservative women who value marriage over money under that age, not in the United States. Maybe that’s what your problem is, you’re a relic of the past. Not so elderly as to have completely avoided the presumptuous bossy mouth of feminism though, so I’d guess your’e in your 60’s. And bragging about your sex life, lol. Are you for real?


242 posted on 03/11/2018 9:30:54 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: papertyger

I think you finally got some insight. Low t beta males just don’t get the good women. Its not new. :-)


243 posted on 03/11/2018 9:31:11 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

A legend in your own mind, you are, lol.


244 posted on 03/11/2018 9:33:17 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: SeekAndFind

I was divorced after 27 years of marriage and shattered by it.

Perhaps I would have ended up forever against marriage and even women in general. It didn’t happen. Instead, I met a gal about my age who had been divorced after a 21 year marriage who had no intention of ever starting a relationship again.

We feel madly in love, got married a year later, have had a wonderful 20 years together and have ten grandkids we spoil and a wonderful modest retirement.

God can do wondrous things.


245 posted on 03/11/2018 9:35:35 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I think you finally got some insight. Low t beta males just don’t get the good women. Its not new.

It's also not what I said, nor what's being complained about....

Though I have to admit, the irony of a WOMAN complaining about men complaining is hysterical!

246 posted on 03/11/2018 9:35:39 AM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: papertyger

They always come stomping onto these threads like a cow in a china shop and don’t have a clue that they sound exactly like what we’re talking about, thus reinforcing the negative attitudes that they think they’re going to shut down. It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pitiful, and on FR of all places.


247 posted on 03/11/2018 9:48:28 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

You can’t really blame them. They’re using tactic only slightly modified from what they learned in elementary school.

That it’s taken men so long to catch on is the real embarrassment.

That it’s here on FR? Well, I’ve always said the only difference between a liberal woman and a conservative woman is their politics.


248 posted on 03/11/2018 10:01:50 AM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: papertyger

But they’re blind to it, just oblivious.


249 posted on 03/11/2018 10:07:35 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
. But they’re blind to it, just oblivious.

True dat!

It's a rare man that can get through a woman's rhetorical defenses to get her to see herself objectively.

250 posted on 03/11/2018 10:13:49 AM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: BobL
Good point. I have a friend and ex-coworker who married a US woman. Ended up divorcing her (or vice-versa) and he went overseas (China) for work. Found a great woman there, married her and brought her back to the states. Has a nice family and seems very happy. Old world views of traditional gender roles seem to be what real men (with the same views) are finding overseas.

You'd think the feminists would notice this trend...

251 posted on 03/11/2018 10:15:22 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase
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To: Dubh_Ghlase

” Old world views of traditional gender roles seem to be what real men (with the same views) are finding overseas. You’d think the feminists would notice this trend... “

I guess they still have enough pansies that they can fool that they don’t need to re-think their game plan. But to hear them bitch, after all they’ve done to wreck this country, is just SICKENING.


252 posted on 03/11/2018 10:32:26 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: papertyger
Nonsense. It's nothing more sinister than society having well developed mechanisms for controlling the natural proclivity of men to violence and aggression, while having literally NO mechanism for controlling the natural provlivity of women to vanity and duplicity.

It used to be that women had a harder time divorce-raping the guy. If she was unhaaapy, she could walk out without his assets. This meant that fewer women tried the divorce route.

253 posted on 03/11/2018 11:01:59 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Funny you should mention that. One of the big shockers I got out of Warren Farrell’s “The Myth of Male Power” was that until the writing of his book there were ZERO recorded incidences in this country of a woman killing her “abusive” husband without an insurance policy, illicit lover, or other financial support alternative.


254 posted on 03/11/2018 11:23:40 AM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: rockrr

Were they prosecuted?


255 posted on 03/11/2018 11:43:36 AM PDT by matt1234 (Jan. 20, 2017: the national nightmare ended.)
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To: BobL

“———but there are three less boys available because of me...”


Thank God.

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256 posted on 03/11/2018 11:49:11 AM PDT by Mears
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To: vooch

The cop told me, that since our stories matched I would be told to leave my house for the night, but if the story didn’t match I would be going to jail.
Now, if the cops show up, someone is going to jail on a DV charge.


257 posted on 03/11/2018 11:50:46 AM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Mears

“———but there are three less boys available because of me...”
...”Thank God.”

Yep, just what my boys say regarding my advice about women here.


258 posted on 03/11/2018 11:51:43 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Keyhopper

“Now, if the cops show up, someone is going to jail on a DV charge.”

precisely - it’s not like the old days. Someone is going to jail and someone will be indicted and someone will plead guilty


259 posted on 03/11/2018 12:28:54 PM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: KC Burke; papertyger

Hear hear

Never give up on women...we all need our rib

No question feminism has really hurt the men and women axis

All fomented mostly by women who were fortunate enough to be atractivd enough to garner a mate or were disaffected urban married women like Betty Friedan

I think even young folks know innately what’s best despite all the turmoil but it sure seems to depend on their upbringing

Both my daughters like automony to a degree in their marriage or relationship respectively but both will admit in late 20s having education or skills is great but they are quite happy making a family and being mom or domestic for now
Or a job that works around marriage and child rearing part time

They prefer to have a man make the money and they care for the wee one

You can’t replace being a mom there for your pre schooler or home when they get off the school bus

My wife nearly always makes sure she’s home when our kids have gotten off the bus at the end of our long 400 yard drive or taken them down to the road on cold mornings

I’m old now but when younger in Manhattan or Los Angeles etc I’d find myself attracting fembot women including even activist Jewish women who even though repelled by a southern alpha male couldn’t resist something instinctive about unapologetic masculinity

“I know it’s not like I think about men and women but I’m just crazy about you or I know you’re bad for me but I want you”

The old paradigms worked for 1000s of years not because of male oppression but it was the natural consequence

Women today live in a false construct of security


260 posted on 03/11/2018 12:53:18 PM PDT by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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