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Why More Men Than Ever View Marriage as a Bad Deal
PJ Media ^ | 03/09/2018 | John Hawkins

Posted on 03/10/2018 7:18:24 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

That’s 90 percent true...many women here sadly loved their husbands dwelt and the husbands have died

And they tend to idealize and defend us and I for one sure appreciate

There are however a dozen or so who are pretty bitter and accusatory

Especially about the nature of men and that we are all porn addicted and selfish and so on

And yes there are a couple of men who I think are lonely rejected and bitter

There is only one cure for a heart broken by that harridan you used to love

That is to find a good woman who wants you emotionally and physically

There is no substitute

It’s ALWAYS been why I breathe....why I live pretty much and the life we create together

No question....it’s just like the bible...my rib

It ain’t always easy.....but life with not even a gal to come over a couple of nights a week and take trips with and care for you when sick or dying

I can’t imagine

You get sick bad you better have daughters who love you or sweet daughter in laws who love you and have a sense of duty

Or you’ll be in some state home


261 posted on 03/11/2018 1:00:14 PM PDT by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: wardaddy

I’ll agree with you on the upbringing WD, but innate knowledge: not so sure about that one. I think its more an “intellectual awareness” than a, God forgive me for using this term, “feeling.”

My wife spent twenty years climbing the corporate ladder. I was finally able to prevail on her to start her own business after a layoff. A few years later, we decided to adopt.

Now she says if she had known what family life was like we would have stayed in her hometown and she’d have started “squeezin’em out” at age 20!


262 posted on 03/11/2018 1:20:43 PM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Dial 1-800-butthurt. Asian women are waiting for your call. They don’t care about your assets or anything. They just want to be with a bitter loser for the next 35 years. :-)


263 posted on 03/11/2018 1:45:23 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Architect of Avalon

I don’t have one. I saw it somewhere (maybe here) and it struck me as being illustrative of human nature.


264 posted on 03/11/2018 2:24:23 PM PDT by gogeo (excellent!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Your poor husband is a saint to put up with that mouth.


265 posted on 03/11/2018 2:30:31 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: PapaBear3625

Leaving the man should mean leaving the man’s money and everything that the man’s money paid for.


266 posted on 03/11/2018 3:07:36 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: vooch

When we came out and informed them we weren’t fighting and were sleeping they should have left right there. End of story!


267 posted on 03/11/2018 3:36:50 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: papertyger

“Notice one of Ambrosia’s comments: “...children must be taken care of financially. So our laws do favor women in that area....”
__________________________________________________________
Below link from USDA.gov shows it is about $12,000.+ per year to raise one child, and that does not include college.
Two children is about $18,000+ pr yr, no college.

WHY are you attacking me about my comment? Those figures show it is expensive to raise a child alone!

Browser search ‘cost of raising a child in USA’:
Cost of raising a child in the US
It will cost an estimated $241,080 for a middle-income couple to raise a child born last year for 18 years, according to a U.S. Department of Agriculture report released Wednesday. That’s up almost 3% from 2011 and doesn’t even include the cost of college.

YOU, SIR, are an ARSE! PERIOD! You have no idea who, or what I am, or have done in my life... God does, and that is all that counts!


268 posted on 03/11/2018 4:19:45 PM PDT by Ambrosia (Southern born... NC, and have lived in PA, NY,WV,SC, NM, FL, NC....Love USA!)
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To: papertyger

Oh here is another link...

https://www.cnpp.usda.gov/tools/CRC_Calculator/


269 posted on 03/11/2018 4:23:10 PM PDT by Ambrosia (Southern born... NC, and have lived in PA, NY,WV,SC, NM, FL, NC....Love USA!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

My husband told me to leave you poor cucks alone because its not a fair fight. He thinks I’m hilarious but then he’s an alpha. LOL!


270 posted on 03/11/2018 5:32:39 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: SaveFerris

I didn’t consider my screen name during the divorce- I like the Al Bundy suggestion. Though it’s not a Dodge Dart with a million miles- my 2004 GMC Sierra with 303,460 Miles is doing great!!


271 posted on 03/11/2018 6:33:39 PM PDT by Married with Children (At)
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To: SaveFerris
Her mother is dead 😳😳 From what I’ve heard- her mother was difficult to live with also!
272 posted on 03/11/2018 6:35:22 PM PDT by Married with Children (At)
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To: matt1234

Nope.

3rd party recordings are inadmissible evidence - it doesn’t matter how incriminating. I did have the satisfaction of eventually looking him eye to eye and inviting him to take his best shot. Made him shamefaced.


273 posted on 03/11/2018 7:34:35 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: MinorityRepublican
True but all of what you mentioned are symptoms of civilization collapse.

Then let Christian, God fearing men stand in the gap by starting to love women, children and people as God's will is. Let them begin to really pray for the healing of male, female relationships. Let them model for society their love for their wives. They are the God appointed heads of their families, let them shine as such, by faith. Let them begin to share with others salvation through Jesus Christ our LORD. Let the men of Christ be men indeed!

274 posted on 03/11/2018 7:43:43 PM PDT by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus. He says absolutely amazing things, which few dare consider.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

OK, I revisited the thread. 90% of it is women bashing. I don’t think it is illogical for Freeper women to be irritated by a thread that is 90% women bashing. That’s all I am saying. There are always a few extremists on either side of the discussion. There are always troublemakers. I mean, we have guys here saying all women are bats__t crazy. The misogyny on this thread kind of invites the response.

Now don’t get me wrong. This is normal human nature. Guys in a bar are going to be ragging on women generally due to the high frustration level. Just like any group of only women are going to rag on guys. It is normal human nature.

The problem comes when we use a public forum like we are sitting in a bar ragging on women. It becomes public and of course they are going to push back.

“Can’t live with them, can’t live without them” sums up the entire life experience of the battle of the sexes and has for eons. There is a lot of frustration level. At least in the olden days, they often avoided the mixing because all the guys would be in one room smoking cigars where the women couldn’t over hear them griping about women, while the women were all knitting over tea in the parlor griping about the men. And so the intermingling didn’t happen all that much and our groups could gripe while preaching to the choir.

I don’t see anything on this thread that isn’t human nature and hasn’t been going on since ancient Egypt ruled the known world.

Other than that, the author is right. For a lot of men, it just makes little sense to marry today. That applies for a lot of women too. They can make a good living and not have a guy pawing at them for sex every night.

It is a miracle men and women get along at all. But we do and it is fantastic whenever it works.


275 posted on 03/11/2018 9:39:27 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (What profits a man if he gains the world yet loses his soul?)
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To: papertyger; Ambrosia
Force women to live by the same rules as men.

What form/forms of coercion are you advocating, to control "the natural proclivity of women to vanity and duplicity"? Laws? Cultural? Some mix of the two?

276 posted on 03/11/2018 10:11:10 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: Bellflower

Some of us have prayed for that to happen for years.....crickets! I’ve seen too many men NOT spend time with their children, NOT pay support, and go on in life, as if they were still single. I’m not a feminist, and very traditional. There is much that needs to change on both sides of marriage. When God truly is first, the rest follows.

Now, my husband is godly man, loving, and does pray with me, so let me clearly note, I am not speaking of him. Finding someone that nice is NOT easy!

I think most women, from my conversations with them, would prefer a strong, spiritual man, who takes the lead. Who is able to handle the finances, and make right decisions. YET for all the men’s female bashing, and whining...it seldom happens. Women pay bills, buy the groceries, and make decisions with very little input from the man... along with all domestic work, WHY? Who knows!

I wonder how many men really treat their wives ,as they did while dating? Flowers, Movie at home, or surprise gifts? And they wonder WHAT HAPPENED? Seriously? They do not get it! No doubt, God scratches his head from time to time on this ridiculous ‘pass the buck’ nonsense!

I am NOT Catholic, yet I think Mother Teresa said it best “What America needs is Love’...paraphrasing here.

Ephesians 5:25 Let men love their wives as Christ loved Church, and gave himself up for her.... NO WOMAN with any sense would leave a guy who was loving, kind, and protective. That makes zero sense.


277 posted on 03/11/2018 10:33:25 PM PDT by Ambrosia (Southern born... NC, and have lived in PA, NY,WV,SC, NM, FL, NC....Love USA!)
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To: papertyger

A person’s character doesn’t change much over the years. We mature and experiences shape us, but our true character is fairly constant.


278 posted on 03/11/2018 11:53:48 PM PDT by NorthstarMom
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“Yes, dear, of course you’re hilarious, dear.”


279 posted on 03/11/2018 11:58:37 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Same here, though we can get annoyed and short with each other, it’s resolved quickly.

One thing this article neglects is pre-marital cohabitation. I’ve seen other stats showing that shacking up increases the chance of divorce significantly. Even premarital sex with others will affect a future marriage negatively.

I decided at a young age that I would not cheat on my future husband before I even met him. I didn’t know it at the time, but the more sexual partners you have, the less bonding (biochemically) sexual intercourse becomes. Once again, we have scientific evidence that God’s way really is the best way.


280 posted on 03/12/2018 12:02:28 AM PDT by NorthstarMom
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