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Picture a Leader. Is She a Woman?
New York Times ^ | 3/16/2018 | Heather Murphy

Posted on 03/17/2018 5:35:47 PM PDT by simpson96

Most people will draw a man. Researchers investigate the consequences.

This series of images emerged from a simple prompt: “Draw an effective leader.”

Tina Kiefer, a professor of organizational behavior at the University of Warwick in the United Kingdom, fell upon the exercise accidentally, while leading a workshop full of executives who did not speak much English. Since then it has been adopted by organizational psychologists across the world.

In terms of gender, the results are almost always the same. Both men and women almost always draw men.

“Even when the drawings are gender neutral,” which is uncommon, Dr. Kiefer said in an email, “the majority of groups present the drawing using language that indicates male (he) rather than neutral or female.”

And yet, her clients often insisted that what they meant by “he” is actually “both.”

Several researchers in organizational psychology who have had a similar experience with this exercise decided to investigate further. How might holding unconscious assumptions about gender affect people’s abilities to recognize emerging leadership? What they found, in a study posted by the Academy of Management Journal, seems to confirm what many women have long suspected: getting noticed as a leader in the workplace is more difficult for women than for men. Even when a man and a woman were reading the same words off a script, only the man’s leadership potential was recognized.

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To: miss marmelstein
As a fellow Yorkist, I agree; though I also really love Henry VIII as well. I know that many here hate him; however that's a religious war I'm not interested in fighting. Henry was a true RENAISSANCE MAN and looked through the lens of history, sans judging him with any later eras' "codes" or morals, he was spectacular!

Love the National Portrait Gallery, too and have also stood in front of Elizabeth I portrait, viewing her haughty glaze and met with same. :-)

Yes, yes, YES...though a stinking faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar lefty, Jackson's portrayal of Elizabeth I is THE best one I have ever seen and I've seen every single movie and series made about her. And that entire cast, especially Robert Hardy as Dudley, is magnificent!

121 posted on 03/18/2018 12:15:22 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Pontiac
No, I didn't forget about Cleopatra at all. She was no "leader" in any way at all.

She was a highly intelligent, well educated, beguiling, cunning woman; however, what did she accomplish, when all is said and done, FOR her country? NOT ONLY NOTHING, BUT GOT THEM INTO A WAR WITH ROME !

122 posted on 03/18/2018 12:19:00 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Bodleian_Girl
LOL...you neither know nor are capable of recognizing fact from fiction, as you so ably keep proving on this thread.

And though you claim to prefer non-fiction, the mammoth holes in your factual historical knowledge are appalling.

123 posted on 03/18/2018 12:22:06 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Not at all...you attempted, at first, by leaving out the words :”in her life”, to be clever, in an offensive/obscene way, but failed. And now, you are doing a stupid CYA. Not clever, now pathetic, and very silly of you; diddums.


124 posted on 03/18/2018 12:24:37 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I’m just a little too old to be concerned or outraged about Queen Victoria possibly taking younger lovers.


125 posted on 03/18/2018 1:05:08 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Standing on the edges of a thousand burning bridges)
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To: Bodleian_Girl
You were the one who brought it up and rgose men were NOT her "lovers"!

You also "too old" to be posting such inaccurate, meritless, factless, and puerile posts; or perhaps, you're in your second childhood.

126 posted on 03/18/2018 1:14:51 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I’m not a fan of H8 but not from religious scruples. Elizabeth is the only Lancastrian I like but probably because she was at least 1/4 Yorkist. I think the Tudors were brutal. Henry 8 began to murder women which even his father didn’t do although I support Elizabeth when she finally knocked off that old warhorse, Mary, Queen of Scots. Phew! What a pain the ass.

Glenda never outdid herself after Elizabeth. But then she probably never got another part so good. She was the MP for my friend Matt’s neighborhood. He stood on line to ask a question at one of her town meetings. His question was: “What was it like working with George Segal?”

She was not happy.


127 posted on 03/18/2018 2:57:06 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Bodleian_Girl
If Hillary had mimicked Mrs. Thatcher's qualities instead of behaving like a fishwife in need of a buggy whip applied to her massive rear end, she might have been president. That being said, I found Mrs. Thatcher a natural born leader who in no way mimicked males. She had the education, the intelligence, a vocal and linguistic proficiency that was honed in those fiery Parliament debates - a verbal fisticuffs that make our Congressional debates look like a midnight midget wrestling match on Bourbon Street.
128 posted on 03/18/2018 3:15:46 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein
I have a feeling that my Henry VIII "like"/interest comes from the fact that my very first introduction to him, was seeing the Charles Laughton starring film at the tender age of 7. And even after many, many decades of reading all about him/the history of that age, seeing his armor at The Tower of London, every single film and series about him, yes...I still do like him. ;^)

As you do, I have ALWAYS found Mary Queen of Scots to have been a royal pain in the arse, nasty, and her very existence to have been a death sentence in waiting, for Elizabeth. I would have had her offed sooner than Elizabeth did; she dithered on about it quite a lot.

I remember when Jackson ran for and then won that seat. I was NOT "happy" and so DO love your story and what your friend queried her on. LOL

129 posted on 03/18/2018 3:19:58 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: miss marmelstein
...a vocal and linguistic proficiency that was honed in those fiery Parliament debates - a verbal fisticuffs that make our Congressional debates look like a midnight midget wrestling match on Bourbon Street.

She was a wonder to listen to! I so agree with you.

130 posted on 03/18/2018 3:49:34 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Standing on the edges of a thousand burning bridges)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

There are some women who are exceptional in leadership capacity, but they are as rare as hen’s teeth. I’m so tired of women being promoted over men just because they are a woman and not because they have the best ability. I’m thinking of law enforcement especially but also in business. I cannot imagine being a young man competing in the world today when so many less qualified people are promoted over them. How demoralizing.


131 posted on 03/18/2018 4:51:25 PM PDT by punknpuss
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To: nopardons

The Laughton movie could turn anyone into a Hank 8 enthusiast. It’s one of my husband’s favorite movies.

I can’t bear Mary Queen of Scots or the sanctimonious, sentimental crap that is written about her. Elizabeth R didn’t present her in a kind fashion as I remember!


132 posted on 03/18/2018 5:55:19 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: punknpuss
I’m thinking of law enforcement especially...

Agreed!

133 posted on 03/18/2018 6:15:22 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Standing on the edges of a thousand burning bridges)
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To: miss marmelstein
it's still one of my favorite movies and I watched, yet again, last week. It's a FANTASTIC movie! :-)

I'm 100% with you, re Mary Queen of Scots; can't stand her...never could! And the cloying crap written about her, as well as the stupid movies all STINK ON ICE!

No, no movies nor series about Elizabeth I, IIRC, portrayed Mary as a stellar person and she absolutely wasn't one.

134 posted on 03/18/2018 6:43:08 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: miss marmelstein

“The working-class Glenda Jackson certainly caught her immense charisma and cold charm.”

Jackson was the best so far. Excellent! Loved that series, Elizabeth R. Lordy, I was in grade school!

We had a basement TV. 12 inch circular screen, filled with tubes, my dad was always fiddling with (he loved that machine), where I learned about Liz I, William F. Buckley and Night Gallery. Best T.V. ever!!!!


135 posted on 03/18/2018 8:06:55 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: nopardons

When I saw Schiller’s Mary Stuart in London with Janet McTeer, my friend Rodney said afterwards: “Well, you can see why Elizabeth offed her.” Even Janet McTeer couldn’t make her sympathetic.


136 posted on 03/19/2018 4:04:32 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: chris37
Love comes in many forms, some forms are preferable to others.

Have you ever read Song of Songs? The love is love between a man and a woman. I am sorry that for some reason you seem very burnt. May you have a new beginning through a new touch from The LORD. I have two dogs and three cats. I love them dearly, but in no way can they love me like a loving person.

137 posted on 03/20/2018 4:44:51 PM PDT by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus. He says absolutely amazing things, which few dare consider.)
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To: Bodleian_Girl
Victoria was a figurehead.

If you want a woman leader, how about Elizabeth?

The first one.

138 posted on 03/20/2018 4:53:32 PM PDT by x
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To: Bellflower

“I love them dearly, but in no way can they love me like a loving person.”

Correct. In fact, their love is superior, because they are honest.

Dogs and cats are great, but German Shepherds > all.


139 posted on 03/20/2018 4:57:17 PM PDT by chris37 (Laws donÂ’t prevent criminals from committing crimes. Guns prevent criminals from committing crimes.)
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To: simpson96
Maybe if it Naevia...

Image result for picture of naevia in Spartacus

140 posted on 03/20/2018 5:06:23 PM PDT by sit-rep
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