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Mass Deporting of Dreamers and Other "Illegals" Would Help No One and Hurt Everybody
Janitor's view ^ | March 20, 2018J | Reasonmclucus

Posted on 03/20/2018 3:55:10 PM PDT by kathsua

Mass deportations of Dreamers and other illegal immigrants would be irrational because it would involve substantial economic cost without providing any economic benefit. The closest thing to a benefit the action would provide is that it would provide some happiness to those psychological misfits who are obsessed with obeying laws regardless of the consequences.

"Illegal" immigrants are fully integrated in the economy, The economy is partly dependent on their spending. If an epidemic or a military attack were to kill 10, million Americans the economic impact could be devastating. The deportation of a similar number of people would have the same effect. The money they spend in retail businesses affects the number of employees those businesses can employ. A reduction in consumer spending would force retailers to lay off people. Manufacturers of consumer goods, clothing and highly processed foods would have to cut production because of reduced demand. Layoffs at these firms and by retailers would further reduce demand. Local governments often depend on sales tax revenue that would fall if too many consumers were removed from the city.

Stock traders often over react to events that hurt businesses. They often act like a herd of nervous cattle and stampede if any thing threatens stock prices. When stock prices are high, traders begin to worry that prices are too high and they will jump at the first sign of a price drop. Obviously, traders would sell retail stocks if they knew retail sales would drop even if the anticipated drop would only be a few per cent. Sellers would try to get the best price possible, but if many wanted to sell, there could be a shortage of buyers which would mean a major drop in price.

Government could set up a procedure to determine whether individual immigrants are worthy of being allowed to stay. As with any group of people, some illegal immigrants are having a positive impact on our society and some are having a negative impact. The federal government should encourage those who are having a positive impact to stay to help replace the 10,000 baby boomers who retire every day.

Congress should discourage those who have a negative impact by imposing a mandatory ten year jail sentence on those who come here illegally and engage in violence, theft or sale of drugs before deporting them. Deporting them without a jail sentence would accomplish nothing because they would likely find a way to come back.

Congress could set up a point system for evaluation of immigrants. Those immigrants who are already here can be evaluated more easily than those who are still living in other countries Emphasis should be on families because those adults with families are inclined to want a good place for their families to live A family could earn points by being employed, learning English and participating in religious or civic organizations. Public safety jobs such as military or fire fighting would provide extra points. Children could earn points for the family by doing well in school including participating in extracurricular activities such as sports or music.

Many Americans have long believed that God helps the United States Those politicians who share this view should consider the possibility that God has helped the Dreamers and their families to avoid being caught and deported. Perhaps God has placed the Dreamers here to replace the babies who have been aborted.

Taxpayers have been investing $10,600 per student per year to educate the dreamers so they can eventually replace retiring workers. Deporting Dreamers would throw away that investment.

There is a popular myth that those who don't pay an income tax don't pay taxes. Income tax is only one of the taxes Americans pay. Those who are living in or visiting America pay visible taxes such as sales taxes along with hidden taxes Business owners sometimes point out that businesses don't pay taxes Their customers do The money a business pays in taxes ultimately comes from customers. The money employees pay in taxes also comes from customers Many of the customers who provide the money to cover business and employee taxes are here illegally.


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To: kathsua
Who is this IDIOT and why did you post this codswallop?

Do you agree with this hogwash?

21 posted on 03/20/2018 4:08:53 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: kathsua

BINGO! The next time you hear someone say “but we need the labor, American’s aren’t having enough children”, remind them that if not for abortion on demand, we’d have 55 million more AMERICANS alive today. Demography is destiny after all.


22 posted on 03/20/2018 4:09:39 PM PDT by Amberdawn (If The Left Didn't Believe In Double Standards, They'd Have No Standards At All.)
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To: rigelkentaurus

Hell most of the Mexican illegals are illiterate in their own language, much less learning English.

I was watching some “boo hoo sob” news report recently about a poor Mexican caught driving illegally getting deported and every member of his family couldn’t speak English except for the youngest children. The man had lived here 18 years!


23 posted on 03/20/2018 4:09:58 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: MeganC

It is an Erase and Replace agenda, Erasing with abortion and then Replacing with immigration.


24 posted on 03/20/2018 4:10:21 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: kathsua
Bringing in immigrants is the only way to replace the babies that have been aborted.

What an asinine assertion.

And. "gun control" is the only way to keep children safe...except for all the alternatives you refuse to consider.

Here's an idea; demonstrate why all the aborted babies require replacement before you pontificate on HOW to replace them.

25 posted on 03/20/2018 4:10:39 PM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: livius

The Dhimmicrats are just waiting for the mid term elections so that they can f*** the country over again with more illegals.


26 posted on 03/20/2018 4:10:41 PM PDT by Amberdawn (If The Left Didn't Believe In Double Standards, They'd Have No Standards At All.)
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To: kathsua
Taxpayers have been investing $10,600 per student per year to educate the dreamers so they can eventually replace retiring workers. Deporting Dreamers would throw away that investment.

So, because we have been f—king up, we are obligated to continue f—king up. Right! That makes perfect logical sense...

27 posted on 03/20/2018 4:10:49 PM PDT by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill.)
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To: kathsua
Mass deportations of Dreamers and other illegal immigrants would be irrational because it would involve substantial economic cost without providing any economic benefit.

We could empty every prison under the same rationale.

28 posted on 03/20/2018 4:11:25 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: kathsua
Wrong, wrong, Wrong.

Mass deporting illegal aliens means jobs for Americans

Removing illegal aliens from jobs means more jobs for Americans

Removing illegal aliens from our schools means more educational focus on our American kids

Removing illegal aliens reduces crowding in our hospitals and doctors offices

Removing illegal aliens saves taxpayer dollars being spent on people who do not belong here

Removing illegal aliens means we have safer roads and safer communities

removing illegal aliens means we can go to the store and converse in American English

I'm sorry, where is the downside to Americans?

29 posted on 03/20/2018 4:11:25 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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To: Amberdawn

The people who screech about overpopulation as an excuse for murdering innocent little preborn babies are the same people who demand open borders so that immigrants can flood in.


30 posted on 03/20/2018 4:13:47 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: Amberdawn

I was very hopeful when I saw some Hispanic group hold a protest outside of Nancy Pelosi’s office (protesting because the Dems are opposing Trump’s generous offer). But I guess the Dem party bosses have gotten them back in line.

Seriously, Trump was willing to work with them - but the Dems don’t want him to get the favorable press. So they keep moving the goal posts, going from this mysterious group they refer to as the “Dreamers” to total unrestricted immigration from every hell-hole in the universe, mostly the Middle East because what they really want is more Muslims.


31 posted on 03/20/2018 4:16:06 PM PDT by livius
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To: packrat35

You just don’t understand!

If market forces make employers pay more for menial workers the company won’t be able to pay out higher dividends!


32 posted on 03/20/2018 4:16:10 PM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: kathsua
psychological misfits who are obsessed with obeying laws

Oh yeah. THOSE crazy, madcap, lunatics. As opposed to the paragons of society who think that laws are simply suggestions ...

33 posted on 03/20/2018 4:20:02 PM PDT by IronJack (A)
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To: nopardons

” codswallop...hogwash...”

I was expecting you to declare shenanigans as well...


34 posted on 03/20/2018 4:20:15 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Reno89519
I'm sorry, where is the downside to Americans?

The people who need to hire automotive technicians won't be able to pay them like grease-monkeys anymore.

35 posted on 03/20/2018 4:21:41 PM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: kathsua

A nation without laws and borders is no nation at all.


36 posted on 03/20/2018 4:24:27 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: kathsua
those psychological misfits who are obsessed with obeying laws

First I was deplorable and now I'm a psychological misfit. And damn proud of it too!

37 posted on 03/20/2018 4:25:46 PM PDT by libertylover (Kurt Schlicter: "They wonder why they got Trump. They are why they got Trump")
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To: kathsua

The “writer” is an idiot who desperately needs ZOTting.


38 posted on 03/20/2018 4:27:04 PM PDT by 50mm (.. / -.. .. -.. / - .... .. ... / ..-. --- .-. / -. --- / .-. . .- ... --- -. .-.-.-)
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To: kathsua

It’s always a good idea to resist an invasion.


39 posted on 03/20/2018 4:31:40 PM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: kathsua

No it isn’t. More over that is no reason to allow illegal aliens to destroy our country

How do you have enough time in your day to find such a ridiculous blog?


40 posted on 03/20/2018 4:34:24 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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