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Self | 03-28-2018 | The Citizen Soldier

Posted on 03/27/2018 1:00:28 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier

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To: arrogantsob

“Foreign entanglements” hardly includes secession, but I got that from the movies anyway.


181 posted on 03/28/2018 1:17:18 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: arrogantsob
Tell me how you are going to convince 50% of the voters to vote to get rid of the progressive income tax when they benefit from that system.

When the destructive greedy Smithians get a brain or there is a complete economic collapse- which ever come first. The trade deficits and the de-industrialization is not sustainable. That's what you Free Traitors™ don't get or don't care.

182 posted on 03/28/2018 3:55:44 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: SecAmndmt

Communists are to the left wing as Libertarians are to the right. Both cancerous radical groups destroying(destroyed?) both the Democrat and Republican Parties.


183 posted on 03/28/2018 3:58:19 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: arrogantsob
progressive income tax when they benefit from that system.

Only a truly progressive or libertarian and definitely NOT a Conservative, would use the adjective "constructive" when describing any form of taxation - especially the income tax! All forms of taxation are destructive in nature; it's a question of the best "necessary evil" as a way to collect them.

Do you even THINK before you post? Are are you really a comedy writer?

184 posted on 03/28/2018 4:05:54 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: firebrand; All

>>They [The John Birch Society]
>>are against the Convention of States.

From The John Birch Society

An Article V Constitutional Convention (Con-Con) is an Urgent Threat to Your Rights

Since 1787, America has chosen to avoid the risk of a new convention that could rewrite our Constitution and Bill of Rights. But 28 state legislatures have now applied for a convention. The Constitution’s Article V says that if 2/3 of the states apply (34 states), Congress shall call a convention for proposing amendments. ...”

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185 posted on 03/28/2018 4:38:12 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nuke deals. See my FR page)
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To: Osage Orange

When you have been a part of something for a long time, even online, you can become more involved than you should. When I get that way I take a break from it. Miserable might have been a strong word. I have no problem blowing off and forgetting the critical posts like the one you just made. I’m a lot tougher than that but nobody likes to be personally attacked over and over by trolls pushing an agenda. I usually respond once and then I’m done responding. I will say what I think but I won’t continue to feed the trolls and stalkers like I did last time.


186 posted on 03/28/2018 5:07:11 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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To: firebrand

Ethics and morals are not defined the same by everyone. So in a country that espouses freedom you have to take that into consdertaion. I hold values and ethics dear. I am patriot and I believe in then teachings of Jose. But I don’t I’m use my vapes unless it effects my rights. For example. If a morman man wants 4 wives and they agree, I have no issue with[ it. One wife is enough for me, maybe too much. I feel the same way about gays.

i worked with gays who were some of the best employees and seemed to be nice people. And what’s the old line, I’ve had a few gay friends. My fundamental christian wife’s best friend is lesbian. I wouldn’t go down that road myself . But it’s really none of my business what they do in their lives. In that sense I am a libertarian. But on broader scale I believe in liberty and the pursuit of happiness and sometimes that means not putting people, who do things I wouldn’t, in jail.

Best wishes!


187 posted on 03/28/2018 6:59:25 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: morphing libertarian

The teachings of Jesus, not Jose. LOL


188 posted on 03/28/2018 7:00:21 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: raybbr

To be frank, 2nd DIvision Vet has been in the hospital for months - he was one of our main news posters.


189 posted on 03/28/2018 7:08:10 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: central_va

That makes absolutely no sense. Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

All forms of socialism are Godless and anti-freedom. I am not sure why you would imply that communism is anything more than just a more extreme version than fascism.

Libertarianism is not socialist, and at least it bears some consistency with the US constitution (the true political middle). The biggest problem is open borders.

Both the modern Republican and Democrat parties generally lie under the political left. Both are closer to fascism than communism. Both of them believe in open borders as well.

Libertarianism would be an improvement on our current political order if it agreed to borders. There are people on the anarcho-capitalist right who argue that borders are quite in keeping with liberty, the idea being that illegal border crossers systematically violate private property rights along the way.

Libertarian Republicans like Massive and Paul are massive improvements on their colleagues


190 posted on 03/28/2018 7:48:46 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: miss marmelstein

Is he reading posts in this forum? Can we send him our best wishes, and he is able to read them?


191 posted on 03/28/2018 7:52:18 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: central_va

I never used the term “constructive”. Put the bottle down.


192 posted on 03/28/2018 8:38:13 AM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: central_va

American companies can compete without government help.

Now Smith is “greedy”?

You are quite the trip, man.

Trade Deficit is not a term used in the Floating Exchange Rate system we have been on since Nixon took us off the Gold
Standard. It doesn’t exist since the exchange is between the commodity purchased and the dollar. Money varies in value every day against every other currency. If we run a “deficit” it just means the dollar is valued at the price of the commodity.

You need to look at the difference between a Floating Rate exchange system and a Fixed Rate system if you have any desire to understand Reality.


193 posted on 03/28/2018 8:47:48 AM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: firebrand

No but there are explicit warnings directed at the Democrats who were toying with the idea of splitting the Union and allying with France. I think the term he used was “...cunning, ambitious and unprincipled men” inflaming sectionalism as a danger.

The no foreign entanglements was also particularly directed at those wishing to ally with France.


194 posted on 03/28/2018 9:03:36 AM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: SecAmndmt

Libertarians are pulling the right to the loony extreme, farther from nationalism and MAGA, trying to reach some governmentless(made up word) place that can never exit, that is not to imply they are Communists; just the opposite. The only similarity between them is the extremism.


195 posted on 03/28/2018 12:36:02 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: arrogantsob
A tariff is not government help. All governments, except ours, applies a tariff to imports. Makers of goods still have to compete with each other INSIDE the USA behind tariffs. Or did you forget that?

The USA became an industrial power because our founders applied tariffs from the start. Thank God they did that. Libertarians and Free Traitors™ would have us forget that one.

196 posted on 03/28/2018 12:39:44 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va

Which bills, budgets and/or policies have been “pulled to the extreme”, specifically? How did the 10 or so libertarian Republicans in Congress manage to achieve this?

Do you believe that all elected officials are obligated to strictly follow the original intent of the Constitution?


197 posted on 03/28/2018 12:54:28 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt
OK, in a general sense Libertarian are not nationalists. The Congress is globalist and following the Libertarian play book. It's obvious.

Libertarians hate tariffs but you know what? Tariffs and duties are defined in the US Constitution, not the income tax! So absolutely the US Constitution should be followed - as written.

198 posted on 03/28/2018 1:03:05 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va

Anarcho capitalists definitely do believe in borders.

There’s virtually nothing libertarian about the federal government. You think libertarians are responsible for globalism?? LOL! Neither libertarians nor paleos nor constitutionalists support managed trade agreements. It would actually be the political left (including GOP) which is for globalism.

I think you have your definitions mixed up. Badly.


199 posted on 03/28/2018 1:10:36 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: right way right

There was a lot of time and energy spent on targeting dems with the same issues we now write off regarding Trump. We no longer have the ability to do that because of how we ignore Trump’s legacy. To me that’s good. It’s about issues, not candidates and their skeletons.


200 posted on 03/28/2018 1:48:34 PM PDT by joesbucks
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