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The Hubble Space Telescope Just Captured An ‘Einstein Ring'
Tech Times ^ | 04/09/18 | Carl Velasco

Posted on 04/09/2018 7:06:43 AM PDT by Simon Green

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To: UCANSEE2
Again, another theory that doesn't hold up well.

Welcome to Quantum Theory.

First off, for it to be accurate the observer would have to be located in a NON MOVING SPOT. There is no such place in the Universe. Or perhaps, to be more clear, one cannot find such a spot as there is no 'reference' point to determine whether one is moving or not.

Movement is relative to the observer. Quantum Theory/Mechanics/Gravity is beginning to work this theory that time is divorced from space when at high velocity/power/gravity. Lots of room for growth.

Second, the theory depends on there only being one observer. Two different observers would obtain two different timelines.

ibid.

41 posted on 04/09/2018 5:20:16 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: UCANSEE2
I don't think you can distort space, as space is the absence of matter. You can't distort that which has no shape or form.

Einstein theorized that it was possible in his Theory of Relativity and it was proven in General Relativity.

If you accept Einstein's theory, then time can be 'distorted'. Of course, it is only distorted (according to an earlier post) to the OBSERVER and not the OBSERVED. Which would mean It WAS distorted and AT THE SAME TIME was NOT DISTORTED.

Newton said time was constant. Einstein said: "Hold my beer." and ToR/GR allegedly proved that time was distortable. Quantum Theory says: "Not so fast, Al."

Kinda like Quantum Theory. It is and it is not.

Such is the realm of science. Constantly changing, being challenged, modifying, revealing, and challenged all over again. Somehow, I believe they all are correct and incorrect.

Kinda like Schrodinger's theoretical cat.

42 posted on 04/09/2018 5:24:51 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: deadrock

*** “Time is relative. And so is distortion” ***

Ask Algore, he agrees (but he says Climate isn’t)


43 posted on 04/09/2018 8:33:25 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Did You Screw up your Life? You get a “Second Chance” every second.)
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To: TexasTransplant

You bet.


44 posted on 04/09/2018 8:43:13 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: Simon Green
Where has it been asserted that the universe is keeping the same "density"?

Is there any proof it is becoming less "dense" ?

As space expands, the average "density" of the universe goes down, obviously.

I was talking about the mass of the Universe expanding, which may not even be true.

You said 'space' expands. If it expands, what is it expanding into, and how would you go about measuring that ?

If you and I were to stand back to back for a duel, and then walk away from each other, is "space" expanding between us, or are we just moving away from each other "in space" ? Is the space between us less dense, more dense, or the same ?

45 posted on 04/11/2018 6:40:40 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2
Is there any proof it is becoming less "dense" ?

Yes. The expansion of the universe is extremely well documented. BTW, the average density of the universe is roughly 5.9 protons per cubic meter. This does not take dark matter or dark energy into account, mind you.

I was talking about the mass of the Universe expanding, which may not even be true

The mass of the universe is not increasing.

You said 'space' expands. If it expands, what is it expanding into, and how would you go about measuring that ?

It's not expanding "into" anything.

https://www.universetoday.com/1455/podcast-what-is-the-universe-expanding-into/

46 posted on 04/11/2018 7:42:56 AM PDT by Simon Green
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To: Simon Green
Thanks for the responses. I appreciate the good conversation.

BTW, the average density of the universe is roughly 5.9 protons per cubic meter.

Where was that measurement taken ?

The mass of the universe is not increasing. How would we know whether it was or not ? We don't even know how 'big' it is, or if it is infinite.

It's not expanding "into" anything.

To help clarify, you are using 'space' and 'universe' interchangeably, correct ?

47 posted on 04/11/2018 10:11:41 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: rjsimmon
The passage of time is relative to the observer.

If we eliminate the observer, then TIME STANDS STILL.

48 posted on 04/11/2018 10:15:17 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2
If we eliminate the observer, then TIME STANDS STILL.

If we eliminate the observer, time ceases to exist!

49 posted on 04/11/2018 10:20:41 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Simon Green
(correction)

The mass of the universe is not increasing.

How would we know whether it was or not ? We don't even know how 'big' it is, or if it is infinite.

50 posted on 04/11/2018 10:21:39 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Little Pig
Time distortion is not only possible

Time always slows down when you're waiting in line for the restroom.......

51 posted on 04/11/2018 10:37:24 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My cat is not fat, she is just big boned........)
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