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Lawnmower and small gasoline engine advice and tips needed
self | 4 16 2018 | self

Posted on 04/16/2018 7:50:15 AM PDT by dennisw

I want to keep this new Troy Bilt lawnmower running great. It is the TB230 with 163cc* Briggs & Stratton® 725EXi Series engine     http://www.troybilt.com/equipment/troybilt/troy-bilt-tb320-walk-behind-mower-12avb2a3711 

My questions are:

  1. Do you use synthetic oil? What brand and what weigh?
  2. Or do you use regular oil? What brand? What weight?
  3. Both of the above are climate dependent    You will use different oil if you live in New Mexico compared to Minnesota
  4. How often do you change your lawnmower oil?
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  6. Is it OK to use 94 octane premium gasoline right from the beginning? As soon as I start using this new lawnmower?
  7. Will using 94 octane gasoline stress out the Briggs Stratton engine? Make it run too hot?
  8. Is it worth the effort to buy gasoline with ZERO ethanol in it? My closest place is ten miles away so I would have to buy a few gallons to make it worthwhile....and add stabilizer or not?
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  10. What is a good additive for the 10% ethanol gasoline that we find everywhere. Additive For small engine use with this 10% ethanol gasoline
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  12. How much hotter do small air cooled lawnmower engines get compared to water cooled automobile engines
  13. Is there a superior gasoline filter I should buy and install on the Briggs and Stratton


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To: dennisw

All nonsense.
Just use it.
In 3-5 years it will start acting up.
Won’t matter what type of oil or gas you use.
It will always be the carburetor.

When it happens, go online and buy a new carburetor.
It will cost $25-$35.
It just swaps in with a few bolts.

Everything runs fine for the next 3-5 years.


81 posted on 04/16/2018 9:16:55 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: Charles Martel

As far as I know their carbs CANNOT HANDLE PUMP GAS. They will fail quickly and rebuilding will not work any longer than the original carb.


82 posted on 04/16/2018 9:17:00 AM PDT by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: editor-surveyor; All
It's a walk behind lawn mower, not a riding mower or lawn tractor. It' probably around 6.5 hp, not 22 or 27. It's a Briggs & Stratton, not a Kohler.

All I do with my mower is put in gas. No premium gas. Check the oil. It's always OK. Never put in Stabil over the winter. They start right up. If there's a problem, a little shot of starter fluid does the job. Never had major trouble with any of my dozen gas engine toys. Never drain any of the dozen tanks. Most of them were purchased in 2008 when we moved to a large lot. Oh, I tore down the carb on an Echo chainsaw to clean it up.

Start em, use em, put them away.

I just remembered. About 5 years ago, I bought a "rebuilt" TroyBilt edger with a B&S engine cheap at Lowes. Wouldn't start when I got it home. The grill on the rope starter housing was crushed and I couldn't pull the rope. Fixed it. Tore down the cheapo plastic carb and cleaned and blew it out. Started right up. The next time, two weeks later, no start. Use some starter fluid and it started. I don't think the carb and primer are well designed. Often gas starved when starting. Dies. TroyBilt blames B&S and B&S blames TroyBilt and alcohol in the gas. After two weeks? The design of the belt drive on the edger is terrible. Too twisty It broke after three uses.

The TroyBilt is not the same company as it was in the 70s-80s. Owned by a cheap mower company. Wouldn't buy one today.

83 posted on 04/16/2018 9:20:56 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: google,TWITTER,FACEBOOK,WaPo,Hollywd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: dennisw

Be religious about using fuel stabilizer in the gas. For newer equipment non-ethanol is not necessary. No matter what the manual says, use premium gas. Alcohol is actually a small advantage — ethanol in gas makes it tolerant of a small amount of water contamination.

I use a triple dose of ordinary Sta-bil, I put it in the can before I take it to the station to get it filled. Filling the can mixes the additive. I live in the country and have lots of small gas engines: mower, 3 generators, 2 chainsaws, 3 blowers, and 2 string trimmers. I have never lost a small engine due to gas gumming up in the carb. My friends and neighbors all lose one or two every year.

With 4-stroke engines, I always change the oil about twice as often as the manual says. With 2-stroke engines always use Stihl synthetic to add to the gas.

I have decades of experience and my equipment lasts longer than anyone I know.


84 posted on 04/16/2018 9:21:04 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: editor-surveyor; dennisw
Your doubts do not concern me. I have Read The Fine Manual. You ... have done whatever you have done.

RTFM.

Anybody who tells you not to RTFM, or suggests that RTFM is "nonsense", is full of crap and should be ignored.

85 posted on 04/16/2018 9:21:48 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: 9422WMR

read it but want more input


86 posted on 04/16/2018 9:26:13 AM PDT by dennisw (The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong)
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To: dennisw

Lawnmowers take oil?

Who knew?


87 posted on 04/16/2018 9:28:57 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: outofsalt

does that “thing” really mow grass with any effectiveness?


88 posted on 04/16/2018 9:31:03 AM PDT by dennisw (The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong)
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To: Charles Martel
Honda suggests 10W 30.

I think fresh clean oil is as important as centistokes.

89 posted on 04/16/2018 9:32:14 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: NorthMountain

I didn’t say any manual is nonsense, I said what you thought the manual said was nonsense.
.


90 posted on 04/16/2018 9:40:23 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Right Wing Assault

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I think the troy is nopw owned by MTD, who also own Husquavarna, Sears, etc.

The older stuff is less affected by storage problems, but tend to be more work to start the first time in the spring.

The newer stuff with the total plastic carbs absoluterly have to be run dry before storage, or you’re going to be in the market for a $125 carburetor.


91 posted on 04/16/2018 9:47:11 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: dennisw

Honestly just use regular gasoline and oil, drain the gas in autumn and run it dry and don’t worry the small stuff. These small engines are so cheap and consumable that they are not worth worry. Troy Built ain’t what it used to be, now bought out by the big boys. I keep thinking of replacing the B&S on my splitter and have considered it for the past ten years but never get around to it, now 30 years old and going strong except for occasional carb ($24) because I let it sit with gas. About ten years ago I did put in a new spark plug.


92 posted on 04/16/2018 10:03:38 AM PDT by Lua Buom
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To: editor-surveyor; dennisw
"Nonsense" was your reply. You didn't specify. Since you haven't read the manual for MY engines, you don't know what is written in them. Furthermore, your advice to "always use SAE 30 oil" is contrary to what is written in MY engines' manuals, and may be contrary to what is written in HIS engine's manual

RTFM.

RTFM.

RTFM.

And, when in doubt, RTFM.

Pseudonymous Internet Dude doesn't have your particular piece of equipment. PID doesn't know how your particular piece of equipment should be operated. Become an educated owner/operator. RTFM.

93 posted on 04/16/2018 10:05:06 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: editor-surveyor

Go to Ethanol Shield’s site. They have some interesting test papers and info on their products done by independent labs.

For now I’ll stick with what works for me.

http://b3cfuel.com/resources


94 posted on 04/16/2018 10:20:09 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (My "White Privilege" is my work ethic.)
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To: dennisw

Read the ownwer’s manuals. Both the tb230 manual as well as the b&s manual for the engine. Do exactly as they say. No problems.


95 posted on 04/16/2018 10:24:40 AM PDT by buffaloguy (Bond arms Cowbots well as s)
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To: editor-surveyor
Use only SAE 30 oil in small engines!

That is what is shipped with every mower.

My son found a way to blow up my 27 year old lawnmower that was in basically perfect condition so I purchased a new mower with a Honda engine. I was shocked to see that I had to use 10W-30 automotive oil.

96 posted on 04/16/2018 10:36:30 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: dennisw

I clerked in a small engine shop for a time. Second generation small engine mechanics.
Use premium gas.
30 weight oil.
Change oil and filters when funky.
There was a huge difference in the equipment that was used daily or weekly vs. the equipment used seasonal or once per month or less. If used more often, the engine lasts longer (fuel system does not sweat or get gummed up). I crank my mower once per week, year round and run it enough to at least get the engine hot. If you cannot run the engine weekly for some reason, as others have posted, draining the fuel system is the second best solution. And I do use a couple of drops of fuel additive year round. My mower is about 15 years old and rope start so it needs to start on the first pull. LOL


97 posted on 04/16/2018 10:37:08 AM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: OldMissileer
I was shocked to see that I had to use 10W-30 automotive oil.

It's amazing what happens when you RTFM.

98 posted on 04/16/2018 10:38:48 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: dennisw

Google-”Where to find non-ethanol gasoline in ???” (your area). Saves hassles down the road. Should start easier/quicker. Oil? Main thing is to change often. Clean/replace filters. Happy motoring.


99 posted on 04/16/2018 10:43:43 AM PDT by donozark (Restraining orders are just another way of saying I love you.)
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To: dennisw

Perhaps a better question is, why the kickstand?
I stole it off the interwebs so.., yeah.


100 posted on 04/16/2018 10:44:54 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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