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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD 6/08/2018

Posted on 06/08/2018 11:21:28 AM PDT by Augie

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To: Augie

Here! My one five year old grapefruit seed bush is still doing quite well; unfortunately it only bloomed one bloom early on and never again.


61 posted on 06/09/2018 7:30:54 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
If your Squirrels & Chip Monks were Moles I could help you... IMG_8507
62 posted on 06/09/2018 7:32:51 AM PDT by tubebender
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
If your Squirrels & Chip Monks were Moles I could help you... IMG_8507
63 posted on 06/09/2018 7:32:51 AM PDT by tubebender
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To: Augie; greeneyes

I was at our little grocery store yesterday after I posted, and was surprised to see they had some okra sprouts. I bought a couple. One went into the hay bale, the other into a pot.

Experiment launched.

Now we’ll see.


64 posted on 06/09/2018 2:42:46 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: CottonBall

What a creative idea! Potato bags like the ones from the supermarket? I wonder if that will protect my fig? Last year a rat ate part of a fig every night. On a small tree that produces once a year, that was too much!

Birds - smell probably doesn’t work with them. Fortunately, the cat patrol minimizes their presence.


65 posted on 06/09/2018 2:58:56 PM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education.)
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To: The Westerner

Yeah, the ones from the supermarket. I’ve even tied up the plastic ones, as long as there’s some kind a netting so the smell gets out they are fine. We don’t get too much direct sun here, not like we did in the desert, so the plastic bags have actually held up for a couple years. Cloth netting would be better I’m sure.

I wish the animals would just pick one fruit and devour the whole thing! Instead of a bite here, a bite there. Then I wouldn’t have to drive them away.

I don’t know if it works on rats, but it did great with dear, Chipmunks, squirrels, and bunnies. And whatever else was out there eating my garden. Let me know if it works on the rats too.

I think birds are more visual, I’ve heard of putting shiny things in the trees. I haven’t got to that point since my baby orchard isn’t producing yet.


66 posted on 06/09/2018 3:07:16 PM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you , Julian!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Hi Diana,
Yes, Wisconsin is well known for this problem. I saw a fogger advertised in a catalog. Just have to wait an hour. Then it works for @6 hours. Good idea about cleaning out the underbrush. Didn’t realize mosquitoes lay their eggs in that stuff. Frankly, bats would be the easiest solution if their house can be put high enough in the trees to keep kids and pets safe. But how would you know if they are going to “eat” in your yard vs. all your neighbors’?

Also didn’t know mosquitoes can’t “see” white clothing. Easy to wear but that means pants for ladies who often prefer flip flops and dresses for evenings out. These are all doable so thank you for taking the time to write back!
The Westerner


67 posted on 06/09/2018 3:08:53 PM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education.)
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To: Badboo

Or worse, having to smell stale beer all summer long! But thank you for these recipes. I knew oldtimers had solutions. Just didn’t know where to look.


68 posted on 06/09/2018 3:12:19 PM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education.)
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To: CottonBall
A bit different from gardens in backyards, we are in a single condo here in mid-Gulf sunny Florida with a small patio out the back facing the saltwater canal. Ground level/Eastern sun.

I did a five bucket hydroponic system for tomatoes and peppers a few years ago. Timed nutrient water and aeration. Perlite as the growing medium.

Worked quite well but the tomatoes had absolutely no flavor at all. (Watery?) I’m used to Eastern Shore Maryland tomatoes…

Also, as addressed below, we have loads of Fruit Rats down here who seem to start chewing just as we are getting ready to harvest the tomatoes.

Got rid of the five bucket system and replaced it with a yardsale purchased “Tower Garden”. 28 vertical cups with a 20 gallon nutrient tank below with a timed pump where the fluid is pumped up the middle and flows by drip gravity back down the inside of the tower flooding the cups.

Very good system. Had more Lettuce (many varieties) than we could use. Gave away lots.

Now Marigolds at the top, Strawberries, Calendula flowers and a more conservative variety of Lettuce’s.

We start all our flowers/vegetables/Sunflowers, etc. in plastic cups (with holes drilled in the bottom), potting soil and placed in trays to contain the water.

So that’s a description of our little “garden”.

As noted, this big deal here are the various varmints that eat the newly planted seeds, the seedlings and the finished flowers/vegetables.

Tried powdered Cayenne Pepper but it’s a big deal to constantly refresh it.

The most recent deterrent that seems to be working quite well is liquid Peppermint Extract mixed in a spray bottle with water. Seems to confuse the seed smeller’s noses so they go elsewhere. Very easy to apply anytime.

Feel free to pass along any other varmint deterrent hints, Thanks…

69 posted on 06/09/2018 3:19:39 PM PDT by CoconutBob
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To: CoconutBob

That’s a great idea, peppermint extract is very aromatic.. probably works in the same way as the soap.

How often do you spray it to keep it active? Do you find any of your fruits and vegetables are pepperminty? :-)

Hmm, now I’m wondering if planting peppermint and spearmint near the crops would work. I have some lovely spearmint in the backyard but it is all by itself. And nothing eats it.

I scatter marigold seeds throughout the garden, I’ve heard those keep the insects away. Unfortunately the marigolds don’t seem to germinate until half the crops are already quite large. But maybe it helps, I don’t know. It is pretty to see all the yellow and gold out there.

Another thing I heard but haven’t tried until this year is to plant basil among the tomatoes. I think that is for the insects, not sure how would it affect your rats.


70 posted on 06/09/2018 3:33:11 PM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you , Julian!)
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To: tubebender

I used to sell that contraption when I worked for Jung’s. Mainly to folks who had, “HAD IT UP TO HERE!” with those little b@stards, LOL!


71 posted on 06/09/2018 3:39:22 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: The Westerner

I hope it helps!

The underbrush just shelters them during the heat of the day; they just hang out there and fool around with one another. It’s like a Singles Club for Mosquitoes, LOL!

They need STILL WATER for laying eggs and making more mosquitoes. Jerks.

As for bats, since they devour so many, they can take care of your yard and pretty much the whole neighborhood. :)


72 posted on 06/09/2018 3:49:03 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: CoconutBob

Your ‘tower’ sounds awesome!

I hear you on the lettuce! We are about 8” AHEAD on rain for the season, so my lettuces are happier than ever - and VERY abundant!

While I love to garden now, and would find my life sad without a big veggie garden, I will say I AM looking forward to my Condo Years and I will want a system like that on my patio, too!


73 posted on 06/09/2018 4:05:08 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Zero; zip; nada. Of course, I counted as “lost’, as not being able to find my gloves, even though they did turn up a few days later, when my wife found them, right where I forgot I put them..


74 posted on 06/09/2018 4:39:16 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!�)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
they just hang out there and fool around with one another. It’s like a Singles Club for Mosquitoes, LOL!

How many times have I warned you about Mosquito porn on this forum!!!

75 posted on 06/09/2018 5:28:55 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I picked another couple of quarts of strawberries for the Ice Cream Social fellowship following services at Church Sunday…

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76 posted on 06/09/2018 7:14:10 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: 1_Inch_Group

>>>She was horrified to hear of most of the suggestions.<<<

Guess it was a good thing I didn’t mention the very low power”Super Target” loads I use in the 12 ga. Don’t even damage the shingles when the little buggers are on the roof...another good reason not to have neighbors.


77 posted on 06/09/2018 8:33:48 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!�)
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To: tubebender

Yum !


78 posted on 06/10/2018 4:11:48 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: tubebender

Yummy! Mom is coming out to my farm today, and we’re going to a local Farm Market for strawberries. My patch is only 2 years old, so not 100% productive, yet.


79 posted on 06/10/2018 8:41:50 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
A few garden photos from Eric in the Ozark’s today…

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80 posted on 06/10/2018 5:07:21 PM PDT by tubebender
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