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Man Fatally Shot By Neighbor After Alleged Dog Pee Argument, Witnesses Say
CBS Chicago ^ | 8/8/2018 | Charlie De Mar

Posted on 08/08/2018 9:44:57 AM PDT by simpson96

(snip) Police say the fatal shooting happened in the 7700 block of South Shore on August 3 around 8:45 p.m. The victim was struck in the left arm and chest and pronounced dead on the scene.

It is the sad reality of how quick people are to pull a gun.

CBS 2’s Charlie De Mar reports neighbors are finding it hard to wrap their heads around, as their neighbor, Earl Young, was fatally shot over the weekend. Young was about to marry his fiancé and things were looking bright when a petty argument, allegedly over his dogs, ended his life.

Darnell Payne is not only the Dean of Sullivan House alternative school and a pastor, he’s also a mentor to many men.

He’s opened up his home to many of them.

“We get the ones CPS no longer wants,” Payne said. “They are just little boys. Hurt people hurt people.”

30-year-old Earl Young was one of those boys with a troubled past who Payne took in and turned around for the better. Young was a great basketball player, father, and soon-to-be husband.

“Puppies. I have to smile because I’m so close to crying,” Payne said.

Young was murdered Friday. He was one of 12 killed over the violent weekend in Chicago.

Payne says it all stemmed from Young’s two puppies on the porch of his Southshore home.

“The puppies were peeing on the porch. The pee ran down the porch to the neighbor’s,” he explained.

Police say Young and the neighbor exchanged words before the neighbor shot and killed him.

“How are we so petty now that we live in a world that you could lose your life over puppy pee?” questioned Payne.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicago.cbslocal.com ...


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1 posted on 08/08/2018 9:44:57 AM PDT by simpson96
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Trying very hard to blame the gun but I’d bet the farm that there’s much more to this story.


2 posted on 08/08/2018 9:46:50 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (God's character and moral nature are absolute, eternal, and unchanging.)
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The problem isn’t guns or race. it’s culture.


3 posted on 08/08/2018 9:46:50 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: tuffydoodle

Can you imagine this court episode? The shooter gets sent off to prison, for killing a guy over dog-pee?


4 posted on 08/08/2018 9:49:06 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: simpson96
This is what happens when everyone has concealed weapons permits and are allowed to carry firearms in public. Little arguments turn into the Wild, Wild West.

The shooter wasn't a legal gun owner?

Oops, never mind.

5 posted on 08/08/2018 9:49:16 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: simpson96

Police say Young and the neighbor exchanged words before the neighbor shot and killed him.

“How are we so petty now that we live in a world that you could lose your life over puppy pee?” questioned Payne.

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So it was NOT the puppy pee - it was the verbal argument that led to the shooting.


6 posted on 08/08/2018 9:51:15 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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Despite several witnesses, police say no arrest have been made in this case.

Like most murders in Chi Town.

7 posted on 08/08/2018 9:51:56 AM PDT by ETCM
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To: tuffydoodle
"Despite several witnesses, police say no arrest have been made in this case."

You may be correct.
8 posted on 08/08/2018 9:53:08 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: fwdude

bingo


9 posted on 08/08/2018 9:53:35 AM PDT by centermass_socrates (DHS+FBI+BATFE+NSA+CIA+IRS+TSA+DEA+NCSO = AN ODD ALPHABET OF CORRUPTION !!)
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To: simpson96

In my neighborhood when I was young, everyones dog was allowed to roam free. The lady two houses over would call complaining that our dog was peeing on her petunias. She also had a streetlight installed in her back yard, that glared into my second-floor bedroom window.

In todays world, I suppose either or both of these issues might be cause for gunplay.


10 posted on 08/08/2018 9:54:09 AM PDT by jimtorr
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I wish I would have the time to remind my neighbor that for every dog one sees peeing on the grass, there are many more cats, birds, squirrels, etc., they we never see but are doing the same thing.

-PJ

11 posted on 08/08/2018 9:55:02 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: simpson96

Alright folks

According to most male posters on this forum

It’s perfectly ok to shoot and kill a man who pushes you down or hits you

I don’t agree but I’m from the last century

And have a lot experience with violence

Shooting a man simply over non life threatening physical violence is the work of a coward

In my opinion


12 posted on 08/08/2018 9:57:17 AM PDT by wardaddy (Hanged not hung.)
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To: jimtorr

Mine too

Dogs would fight

I can’t lie

We found it fascinating but if it got gruesome we’d try to break em up

This is pre snowflake nation

No I’m not endorsing pit fighting

Some dogs make and female just fight quick and it’s not breed limited


13 posted on 08/08/2018 9:59:13 AM PDT by wardaddy (Hanged not hung.)
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To: fwdude

SPOT ON!!!

It is not race, but culture. Plenty of ethnic minorities that have embraced traditional Judeo-Christian mores that are doing just fine and lots of whites that have embraced modernity that devastates the family...


14 posted on 08/08/2018 10:05:33 AM PDT by fatez (Ya, well, you know, that's just your opinion man...)
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To: simpson96

“The puppies were peeing on the porch. The pee ran down the porch to the neighbor’s,”

Sorry, if your puppies pee is dripping in me as I sit on my porch something is going to happen.

I’m guessing Young did not handle the confrontation well.


15 posted on 08/08/2018 10:05:46 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.- George Orwell)
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“It is the sad reality of how quick people are to pull a gun.”
Wrong.
It is the sad reality of how quick some people of a certain culture are to pull a gun.
Fixed.


16 posted on 08/08/2018 10:07:45 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: READINABLUESTATE

My guess is that when confronted by the person getting dripped on, the decedent, instead of apologizing and rectifying the situation like a normal person, chose to assert his right to have his puppy’s pee drip on this man, probably with force.


17 posted on 08/08/2018 10:11:23 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: simpson96

It’s Chicago. Shootouts are the normal.
Move along. Nothing to see here.


18 posted on 08/08/2018 10:19:46 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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30 year old "young boy" who never grew up. But old enough to father children with his girlfriend.

His two "puppies" are pit bulls of course, pissing on the balcony of his apartment and dripping on his neighbor below.

The majority of homes in rural America where I grew up and spent most of my adult life had a hunter and gun owner residing in it. But there was hardly ever any gun violence directed at the citizens of the community, unlike the shooting gallery of Chicago. Gun ownership in rural America made for polite neighbors, not these weekly body counts.

It's the majority of children growing up in single parent households, it's the Godless culture of drugs and violence, it's the DemonRat local governments which get their constituents addicted to regular financial dependency over the course of decades, it's the politically operated schools who fail their young charges generation after generation that make up this dis-functional excuse for a city.

And all the local CBS media can do is wring their hands and talk about "gun violence", like those pieces of steel pulled their own trigger.

19 posted on 08/08/2018 10:21:56 AM PDT by Sa-teef
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To: fwdude

Chicago culture.


20 posted on 08/08/2018 10:26:26 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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