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To: Sontagged
All I did was refute your crazy claim that "(t)here weren't even sophisticated video relay stations at that time" when there was a vast network of video relay stations across the country at the time.

While I cannot teach you how to be a telecommunications technician who worked in the field for forty years, I can provide you with some links to check out.

This is from Wikipedia providing some information regarding the Earth link with the Moon and Australia and then the up/down links between Australia and California. You will note the path from California to Houston is on the AT&T network I proved previously. The way that the signal gets sent between Parkes or Honeysuckle Creek Earth stations and Sidney OTC is across the Australian Postmaster-General's Department (PMG) facilities.

Honeysuckle Creek Tracking Station

Australian Broadcasting Corporation news report on the role of the Parkes radio telescope and the Honeysuckle Creek Tracking Station, a week before the moon landing

What really saddens me is that you create your own straw men and then proceed to knock them down with glee. You're the only only one that is obsessed with delay. I have worked with communications delay on a day-to-day basis and it isn't some magic barrier you seem to believe it is. You have delay, you compensate for it or overcome it. You have been told over and over that on the Apollo 15 and 16, the engineers could not get the video timed to get the boost of the LEM but finally did on the last mission.

What my mind cannot wrap around is that you cannot believe in God or Jesus, if men walked on the Moon or his creation is a sphere. Jesus spoke Aramaic and the Bible was written in ancient Greek, then translated for us into Latin and then into the King's English of Shakespeare's times, yet you quibble over your understanding of the word firmament from the Old Testament. /smh

Also, the NASA you rail against now, is not the same NASA from fifty years ago. There was no works project, no Muslim outreach, no pork barrel spending, just a tremendous national pride in the Greatness of America. MAGA and stop being a schmuck.

240 posted on 12/19/2018 8:33:41 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: higgmeister
Lord God, what specious reasoning in your post. And 5th grade name-calling just further degrades your specious arguments. (Do you even know what a “schmuck” is in Yiddish?)

Let's get things clear. There were no communications satellites circa 1970 as we have now, so I'm glad you didn't try to insert that into NASA’s “lunar logistics”.

The problem is the Apollo 17 footage of a fake toy held up by tension wires in a studio footage that was pawned off on the American people at a time before the internet and consumer video recording devices such as Betamax/VSH tape standards.

Take another look at this Apollo 17 footage. BTW, how did the astronauts’ audio “voice over” get mixed over this footage? What were the logistics for that? LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HQfauGJaTs

In fact, the advent of VCRs, the consumer video recording machine was simultaneous with the death of NASA’s Apollo program...we never were to “return to the moon” once Americans were able to personally record TV programs. Coincidence? (LOL!)

There were no coaxial cable networks in the early 70’s. On a globe earth model, radio waves are restricted by the problem of line-of-sight transmission..

...so the “lunar (or lunatic) logistics” of exactly HOW NASA transmitted footage purportedly from the moon to the earth and back within 1.2 seconds to enable them to remote control the cameras on the Lunar Rover Dune Buggy...

... how the lunar footage wss transmitted is as newsworthy of a story now as it would have been then.

How “moon footage” was transmitted is still a big news story.

It's still a huge mystery as to how NASA, in Houston, could have remote-controlled the Apollo 17 lift off footage from the flimsy broadcasting equipment that was left on the moon, that needed to run off batteries.

Using circa 1970 technology.

And all done in 1.2 seconds.

And that's “round trip”... from moon to earth and back to the moon again. 238,000 miles times two.

Utilizing the flimsy “transceiver” dish that was strapped to the Lunar Rover (golf cart).

That's half a billion miles.

In 1.2 seconds, in order for the footage to be sent from the lunar rover's camera's TV uplink transmitters...

... to Australia where the footage is converted to broadcast standard...

... then the footage is (as you said) microwaved internationally to Houston (though your map didn't show international microwave towers) — or via AT&T's c. 1960’s era phonelines —

So the logistical starting point is:

1. The video transmitter on the Lunar Rover to...

2. The “tracking station” TV downlink receiver in Austrailia

3. Australia converts the image to broadcast standard

4 Australia sends the footage to Houston/NASA via old fashioned 1960’s era phone lines or mysterious microwave towers in the ocean...

5. NASA remote controls the lunar camera off this received footage..

6. NASA sends the remote signalling back to Australia along the same mysterious international phone lines or microwave towers

7. Australia takes the remote control signal for the Lunar analog color video camera strapped to the Lunar rover and Uplinks the video signal through their TV transmitter dish to go back to the "moon" 8. (is the Aussie 200 foot wide dish also a transmitter or only a receiving dish? LOL... it was torn down and raised in 1981)...

9. Video remote control signal for the mechanical motorized “xoom” arm and “tilt” mechanism on the analog camera is activated from the signal received from Australia via a flimsy “receiver” box behind the aluminum folding chairs strapped to the Lunar Rover?

And all of this happens in 1.2 seconds? LOL!!!????

This is idiotic. None of this makes any sense, using c 1970 technology, and especially c. 1970 battery technology for all of this video transmission Uplinking and video transmission Downlinking from Houston/Australia on the Lunar Rover.

And this is why NASA has been so ridiculed, even in the comments section on the Apollo 17 “moon footage”...

(Honestly, this looks like 35mm or 16mm film to me that has been repeatedly kinescoped in a loop. Someone needs to breakdown the footage, because analog color video cameras from 1970 did not capture the same sort of details as film.)

"Really? LOL... That STILL doesn't explain the 1.5 second remote control relay (across half a BILLION miles) to the toy “Apollo 17” fakery here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HQfauGJaTs

241 posted on 12/20/2018 8:12:47 AM PST by Sontagged ("The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork." -Psalm 19:1)
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To: higgmeister
While I cannot teach you to be a Christian who knows how Jesus requires us to be “as wise as serpents” simultaneous with being “as meek as doves”...

... I can bluntly remind you that what Jesus said is true.

All conservatives need to step up their game regarding the nature of evil in the world... and we need to “test” NASA...

“Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world...

... By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.”

And John here doesn't don't mean “political evil” John means actual, Satanic evil where men and women actually bow the knee to Satan.

Just as the enemies of God bowed the knee to Baal in the Old Testament, they continue to do so today.

To believe otherwise is not Christian, it is actually defying Christ.

243 posted on 12/20/2018 8:38:16 AM PST by Sontagged ("The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork." -Psalm 19:1)
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To: higgmeister
Meanwhile, while no one can explain the Apollo 17 faked “lift off” from the “moon” because no one can explain how the circa 1972 audio and video transmission traveled from the “moon” to Australia to Houston and back to Australia and back uplinked again to the moon via some unheard of TV uplink receiver and battery powered camera on left behind on the moon in 1.5 seconds...

The battery technology just was NOT available at that time to do all of “video transmitting” in 1972 over half a million miles round trip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HQfauGJaTs

This video rebukes your thinking on these subjects, if you really believe that Jesus Christ is Lord, and was raised in the Flesh.

It seems like you don't want to believe evolution, or climate change, but you'll believe any other lie by atheist scientists and “science”

A Personal Message to the Globe-Believing “Christian”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCyBaqflBOA

ASTRONAUTS ARE ACTORS (sad how the astronauts are laughing and mocking us for believing them... the Elon Musk section starts about half way... hysterically dumb! )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG1anM7f05Y

Merry Christmas, and remember, the Truth matters, because He is the Truth.

248 posted on 12/24/2018 2:11:12 PM PST by Sontagged ("The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork." -Psalm 19:1)
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To: higgmeister
Why would atheistic UN-loving, NWO and Paris Accord-loving Leftwing orgs like NASA lie?


264 posted on 12/26/2018 3:14:10 PM PST by Sontagged ("The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork." -Psalm 19:1)
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