Posted on 02/18/2019 10:14:31 AM PST by Da_Shrimp
Sometimes it seems from reading posts on here that the average Freeper thinks that guns are pretty much banned in the UK. They aren't, though.
Handguns are banned (unfortunately), but otherwise we have a reasonable choice of legal weaponry, including Accuracy International sniper rifles if you have £23K to spare. Semi-automatic rifles are limited to .22 rimfire, but bolt-action rifles are not.
Here's a link to my nearest gun dealer, so you can see what's available this side of the pond:
https://www.thecountryman.com/
Comments welcome - not trying to start any fights, just interested in opinions. Personally I own a Mossberg 500 and am looking for a semi-auto shotgun for clay breaking as my arthritis is getting increasingly irritating! :-)
I would think that if someone ran up to steal one of those, I would hope the others would blast them pronto.
Cool pics.
The styling fellow in the pith helmet is our own marktwain.
Also you basically cannot be a willing participant.
You cant be an instigator. A person may be involved in something and then try to disengage from the situation, and then they are ok, whether or not the other person still keeps going.
Basically the laws are aimed to protect and support the person not wanting trouble, but allowing them to deal with trouble if it wont leave them alone.
That seems pretty much spot on - good sense.
Having watched it a couple of times, I think I need a new hobby!
Well i wish you guys had some of those laws.
I still want to know how your muzzies over there get a hold of acid to throw in peoples faces?
I am glad I got to see England before stuff really went bad. Was over in summer of 1991 in Bicester and Brackley area. But got to travel around a little bit, made it all the way up to Inverness.
I grew up in Southern California,
Always had firearms.
Target shooting in the deserts
and mountain areas.
Those places are slowly disappearing
and indoor ranges are proliferating.
I’m missing the open spaces with
the familiar “plink” of the .22 and the
Fun in a .357 Mag.
Point being, Enjoy it Now,
While you can.
That’s ole Dean in
A Pith Helmet!
Recognize the Mustache.
***.455 Webley revolver***
I WANT! I WANT! I WANT!
On the other hand, my S&W .455 converted to .45 Long Colt fill fill the bill for now. Covered with British proof marks. Same as my Brit converted .38 Victory S&W to .22 LR.
Alas, my old eyes are not up to snuff as they used to be.
Alas. Britain will never be able to have another Assize of Arms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assize_of_Arms_of_1181
“The Assize of Arms of 1181 was a proclamation of King Henry II of England concerning the obligation of all freemen of England to possess and bear arms in the service of king and realm and to swear allegiance to the king, on pain of “vengeance, not merely on their lands or chattels, but on their limbs”.
It’s good to know that you have a tool to defend your home.
What sort of paperwork and delay is involved for you to buy a rifle, for example this Howa 308
http://www.thecountryman.com/howa-stainless-sporter-308-black-hogue-rifle
I was selling a mould for a 41 Long Colt on eBay a few years ago. It was listed as for sale in the US only. However, some guy from England contacted me and wanted to buy it. I told him no, I did not want to get caught up in foreign laws on what was legal and not legal. He told me it was perfectly legal, just ship it. I again said no. His return email ripped me a new one. I blocked him afterward.
From what you say later on, it does not appear that it was legal. It is for a cartridge handgun with readily available bullets, cases, powder, primers, and dies. I have NEVER seen a gun for it with a 12” or longer barrel. Guns for it were made up until WWII. It is NOT percussion or muzzleloader. What is the story about the 41LC in England?
Haven’t priced them recently, but around $6000.
How long it takes depends on how efficient the local police are - usually a month or more. Very tardy compared to the US!
Apparently Brownell’s UK sells molds (ahem...moulds) but the variety looks limited. My guess is that something as unusual as a .41 Long Colt mold can’t be found, but is legal.
https://www.brownells.co.uk/Reloading/Bullet-Casting/Casting-Moulds/Handgun-Moulds
I'm not sure - I'll have to look it up.
Yea, Brownells in the US is pretty limited when it comes to moulds, too. However, there are other places (3 or 4 in the US) that make them. Without a CLEAR answer on whether or not it is legal, I am glad I did not send it.
Isn’t there a government list somewhere in England where they list what caliber and/or gun is legal and what is NOT legal? If not, it would seem that anyone from any little podunk place could outlaw anything they want to. That is why “shall issue” instead of “may issue” is so important with concealed carry licenses in the US (I have one and use it).
Citizen, err rather, “subject”, let me know when you can walk down to even a local hardware store, pick out a handgun, rifle or shotgun, fill out one form, wait five minutes, lay down your cash and walk out with anything from a mundane 30/30 or 22LR revolver to a AI 338L or Barret 92 etc...
Till then, keep yer damn “subjective” mouth shut. Here, it is NOT about sports, but it can include them.
It is good to see some rights remain.
In Australia, the laws imposed on the Country in 1997 are very strict.
You have to show you have a "need" for a gun. As in England, self-defense (or should I say defence?) is not allowed as a proper need.
In Australia, use of a gun in self-defence is reason to revoke their license to have a gun.
If one cartridge is found that is not locked up, they are *required* to lose their license. (some moderation in this is occurring in some Australian states).
Strange as it may seem, Australian gun law is often *more* restrictive than English gun law. Silencers (moderators,suppressors) are almost impossible to legally own.
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