Coronavirus Live Thread. No 10.

3/5/2020

[RummyChick]

Purell has ramped up production with overnight shifts and overtime.

I think we will see it in stores again fairly soon but might take a bit since people are going to continue to grab multiple bottles and it is out in so many places.

I walked into Lowes this week and had just missed it. someone had bought it all. So they did have it. They carry Germx which I dont like as much as Purell anyway.

[Bon mots]

—This will have a great[er] economic impact than anything else.

This much is absolutely true.

A couple of reasons:

• The cruise ship industry is dead and may never recover fully
• The airline industry is taking a direct hit
• The hospitality industry (hotels, motels, etc.) is getting clobbered
• Supply chains are massively disrupted
• Shipping and trucking industries disrupted
• People are putting off major buying decisions as they hunker down

This happened when the stock market was probing new heights.

Adding to all of that is the fact that the left has been desperately hoping to somehow crash the stock market or exacerbate any pain even if it means that millions may die, they want to create or exacerbate any crisis, pump it up, and pin it on Trump.

They did this in Puerto Rico - massive aid was sent after Hurricane Maria and hidden - the mayor of San Juan even stood in front of it on TV and lied that people were dying because of Trump. Rumors circulated that the aid was hidden and not distributed - but relax, we were told - the FBI was investigating. NOTHING EVER CAME OF IT... until two years later, someone opened the warehouse stuffed full or rotting aid that was never distributed, but rather hidden so that they could blame Trump. Nobody was punished. They got away with it. People died.

People on the left have already publicly stated that they intend to infect Trump supporters if they get this virus. People will die. This is what we are up against.

Another reason are the unbelievably stupid and selfish such as the employee of Dartmouth Medical Center who was under self quarantine, yet went to an event and infected coworkers.

[PghBaldy]

HE will then infect the rest of his household then.

[GoreFreeTN]

The TN CV infection is in Williamson County, the county directly south of Nashville Davidson County. Brentwood, Franklin, Fairview in Williamson Co. Bedroom communities of Nashville.

[faucetman]

Are there any stats on the race of the infected?

Is there a race component? Obviously China, Korea, Japan, don’t count.

For example, what was the ethnicity of the Italians? Asian?

[Vermont Lt]

Where are you getting the influenza number?

The reason I ask is that I was using the rates from 2018-2019: 35 million infected, 496k hospitalized, and 32,500 dead (I am working from memory, I am sure I rounded a little.). This makes the fatality rate about .91%.

Your figure is the deaths/hospitalization(?)

I am not “debating” your figures...just making sure everyone is speaking the same “language.”

[mlo]

” actual mortality rate of influenza in the US this flu season: 6.9%..”

No. Not even close.

[TermLimits4All]

I’m hopeful you are correct. The compromised and elder population it seems are at larger risk of serious complications if they get this.
The massive impacts will be economic in nature. If it breaks out in major cities on a larger scale we will see businesses have to close, schools and government have to close. Schools will prevent some parents from going to work.
I think we will see an Italy like effect here. The overwhelmed medical industry which is partially responsible for the number of deaths. For first world countries like ours we should be able to prevent a large number of deaths. I do agree we are in the early stages and have what, 10 deaths on our soil so far. Not the flu but something to keep an open mind about.

[Crazieman]

You made a typo. You obviously meant 0.69%

[DEPcom]

You only need small hand sanitizer bottles for when you travel outside away from soap.

Soap and Water for 20 seconds does an excellent job. I am placing a hand soap pump bottles in our home bathroom and kitchen.

I carry a small bottle of sanitizer on me when I am out and about. I also carry napkins for drying my hands. I have extra napkins in my car for when I am out and about.

[AppyPappy]

It’s topical solution.

[AppyPappy]

Smoking hookah is huge in Iran.

[Jane Long]

According to the WHO, the estimated mortality rate of COVID-19 is 3.4%, but others put it at 1.9-2.6%; actual mortality rate of influenza in the US this flu season: 6.9%.

Not true!

Here's a graph that explains rates...

...The most crucial difference between the flu and the coronavirus is that the latter has been far deadlier. Whereas about 0.1% of people who get the flu die, the coronavirus' death rate is now at about 3.4%, based on the current numbers of cases and deaths....

...During the 2018-19 season, about one out of every 1,000 people who got the flu died....

...While the flu's death rate is low, it varies depending on the strains circulating each year. The flu virus also mutates rapidly, so people can get infected by different strains, which is why the shot isn't 100% effective and why new vaccines are developed every year.....

You can read more, from Business Insider, here.

[caww]

Looks like the most to do would be plan for a month being out of work....and generally two weeks if milder case. And have your will in order just in case.

This thing is reminding me of the movie title ‘The Day the Earth Stood Still”....

[RummyChick]

The personal space aspect of it is important.

The lawyer commuting and shedding virus all over Grand Central Terminal in NYC is going to infect more people
than Grandpa X in williamson county, tennessee with a population of 200,000

However, it is still going to spread.

We are at the mercy of genetic roulette.

[Mom MD]

CT is not the way to test for this. I imagine we have been seeing cases all along that we thought were influenza. Now testing all people with influenza like illness and eg flu test so is suspect numbers will be increasing

[Vermont Lt]

Not to get off on a stock market rant, but I think we need to look at the market by itself and not an indicator of “economic health.”

The stock market was at all time highs, but that is mostly based on the rush away from the bond markets. With interest rates at near all time lows, the ONLY place to put money is in the market.

If you think it is bad now, think of this: None of the indicators coming out now through the end of the month will contain ANY indicator of the impact of the virus. For example, Jobs Friday is tomorrow. The numbers may move the market, but in terms of Q2 and Q3 impact they will be meaningless as anything other than a high water mark.

[Jane Long]

Yep....flu rate is wrong, on ManHunter’s post.

See my post 73.

[Black Agnes]

Um no.

The mortality of the flu this season is NOT 6.9%.

Maybe 0.069%.

Someone needs a better understanding of percents and decimal conversion thereof.

[DEPcom]

"According to the WHO, the estimated mortality rate of COVID-19 is 3.4%, but others put it at 1.9-2.6%; actual mortality rate of influenza in the US this flu season: 6.9%."

The 1.9 to 2.6% sounds like the Spanish Flu numbers. The regular flu is 0.1%.

"The unusually severe disease killed up to 2.5% of those infected, as opposed to the usual flu epidemic mortality rate of 0.1%"
Note: Unusually is the Spanish Flu in the quote from Wiki