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To: Mariner

I suspect I have had my meeting with WuHan a couple of weeks ago here in Florida. My county is showing fewer than 20 cases officially but in the middle of last month many people had flu symptoms, most minimal, and ascribed it to “allergies.” AND 20 people showing up as confirmed cases surely had the infection for 2-3 weeks previously.
I don’t have pollen allergies but sniffled for a few days and had a coughing spell like I have never experienced before, one short bout of rapid fire “dry” cough. I did not really know what was meant by dry cough before. Now I know. I also had a very bad and uncharacteristic headache for a day. Wife had another set of symptoms that should have presaged being very sick were it normal flu but did not get sick further. Daughter and her three boys the same, headaches and sniffles and some cough. SIL who is a pharmacy tech at the hospital had “tightness of chest for a week.” He has asthma so thought it was that but his inhaler did not help this time. I have heard neighbors say similar things. I work as a secutiry guard at a shipyard where men are sent home for 2 weeks if they show up with sniffles or cough. Surely all the germs do not go home with them. Many of the guys have “felt funny” for a couple of days. I have come to believe that millions more have been infected by WuHan Flu than credited with it but for maybe 90% it is a little thing that might not be even noticed. If that is the case I do hope it confers immunity, at least for the current version and, if that is the case then all the shutdown and hysteria is merely the nation beating itself into the ground for no good reason. Quarantining is not accomplishing anything because the infected ones have already spread it about prolifically.


3 posted on 04/05/2020 10:02:44 AM PDT by arthurus (covfefe in WuHan/)
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To: arthurus

I may have had it in early January. Initially I thought last November, but I did not remember the time correctly.

I’d like to be able to take the antibody test at some point, I’m very suspicious of this illness that I had. I felt it going into my chest, but then it didn’t. I was taking Sambucol 4 x a day the whole time.


7 posted on 04/05/2020 10:06:46 AM PDT by chris37 (Coronavirus wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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To: arthurus
"My county is showing fewer than 20 cases officially but in the middle of last month many people had flu symptoms, most minimal, and ascribed it to “allergies.” AND 20 people showing up as confirmed cases surely had the infection for 2-3 weeks previously."

We will never know with certainty but there is anecdotal evidence the CCP Covid-19 was percolating in America as far back as December. Areas with somewhat heavy international business travel like Upstate South Carolina experienced a more than normal load of influenza like cases and deaths attributed to the flu. At least social distancing and warmer weather seems to have broken the "just the flu" cycle.

19 posted on 04/05/2020 10:54:24 AM PDT by buckalfa (Post no bills.)
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To: arthurus

“I have come to believe that millions more have been infected by WuHan Flu than credited with it but for maybe 90% it is a little thing that might not be even noticed.”

Nope.

We know the distribution of severities. But even if it were your 90%, where are the other 10% of cases and the bodies to go with them?

The flu still exists. Many people had flu-like symptoms such as you describe, often predating the identification of Patient Zero (myself included). It was likely the flu. Otherwise the hospitals would have been flooded.

Now, if it was some weak strain that somehow got out earlier than the reports, it probably wouldn’t matter, since there is no guarantee that one strain immunizes you against any others. NYC is ample evidence that if such a strain existed (can you imagine it didn’t get to NYC, somehow?) it did not confer immunity.

There is a lot of #WuFluMeToo going around It’s human nature.


22 posted on 04/05/2020 11:03:29 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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Those who think they had COVID-19 before community spread was obvious are almost certainly wrong. This is not a virus that hides. When community spread begins, infections and associated hospitalizations ramp up quickly in a pretty predictable manner outside of mitigation efforts. If you are a shut in, and had no opportunity to infect others, and are only talking about a couple weeks ahead of community spread, then there is a very small chance it was wuflu. If you have normal interactions with people, and no one around you became ill, or if your illness was more than a couple weeks ahead of the curve, it was something else.


26 posted on 04/05/2020 11:10:25 AM PDT by ETCM
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