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Organic molecule remnants found in nuclei of ancient dinosaur cells
Phys.org ^ | 9/24/2021 | by Chinese Academy of Sciences

Posted on 09/24/2021 6:06:50 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: Kevmo

Yes...but how did the recent “dragons” get fossilized in rock which are thought to be millions of years old? Maybe the rock wasn’t formed that long ago? Big conundrum. Some ways to explain it could that the rock dating technique has flaws...or biomolecules are preserved by unknown chemical means. Some suggest that the molecules found are microorganisms derived, which contaminated the fossil...
The textbooks may have to be rewritten again...
Freegards.


21 posted on 09/24/2021 9:52:52 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Getready

Maybe the rock isn’t millions of years old but more like hundreds of thousands of years old. Or, cartilege lasts a lot longer than scientists thought.


22 posted on 09/24/2021 10:25:44 PM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: LibWhacker

Chinese scientists going through preliminary steps to create their own Jurassic Park.


23 posted on 09/25/2021 4:55:42 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: neefer

So there was a carbon-hydrogen bond or did the dinosaurs eat kale?


They were not sissy kale eaters! They ate spinach like Popeye!


24 posted on 09/25/2021 4:57:36 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Getready

They seem to keep finding more fossils with cellular intact components.

Then again maybe ‘scientists’ are wrong about how long organic material can last to begin with. Simpler explanation. So there is no ‘conundrum’.


25 posted on 09/25/2021 5:02:05 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: LibWhacker

“Wuhan Park is frightening in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild...”


26 posted on 09/25/2021 9:05:44 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ((The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.))
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
Thanks LibWhacker.

27 posted on 09/26/2021 2:49:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: LibWhacker
Fascinating if you ask me, someone who admittedly is almost completely ignorant about this field of study.

That's not an impediment on FR...................

28 posted on 09/27/2021 5:19:50 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Kevmo

That’s why every civilization has had a version of a ‘dragon’ in their mythology.....................


29 posted on 09/27/2021 5:21:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger; SunkenCiv

I agree. Sunken Civ has a file on that. Dragons are more than mere mythology, such as the Crocodile-Panther painted on pottery.


30 posted on 09/27/2021 7:32:39 AM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Kevmo

Komodo Dragons being the largest land reptiles left in isolated areas, suggest that other, larger species could have lived to relatively recent times.

The Komodo Dragon was only ‘discovered’ by Europeans in 1910!.................


31 posted on 09/27/2021 7:40:30 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

The largest reptiles to survive the asteroid impact of 65 million years ago, as far as I can see they all ate carrion. Plenty of that food left over after the conflagration.


32 posted on 09/27/2021 7:43:09 AM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Kevmo; Red Badger
During the Middle Ages, tales of struggle with dragons probably arose due to the presence of "horse eels" found *and hunted/killed) in the larger streams of the British Isles, and possibly elsewhere in western Europe. These critters are now rare, probably now (recently?) extinct, other than in Loch Ness.
In classical antiquity, dragon myths come from fossil forms remembered in Scythian folklore. The dino fossils were visible in the cliff face somewhere in Central Asia, I think even the location has been rediscovered in modern times. Adrienne Mayor's "The First Fossil Hunters" is the reference on that.
Dragon myths in other places with no solid folkloric connection with the two above do tend to be ancient, but refer to dragons in the sky, hence, likely large comets which spent periods visible in the sky, or large messy bolides coming down, breaking up, and appearing to be at least two entities struggling in battle.

33 posted on 09/27/2021 7:55:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Kevmo

Well, at least it was ‘well done’..............................


34 posted on 09/27/2021 8:05:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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...Bones helped to put ancient peoples in touch with the past and to vivify their mythology for them, but so did the recreation of these myths spatially. As it turns out, providing an area for reliving Roman myths was something not uncommon in antiquity or today...

This fact was particularly true for the private collections held by Roman emperors, which were often displayed in gardens and grottos. The so-called antrum Cyclopis (Atrium of the Cyclops) became a common feature installed in Roman villas in the imperial period. It was usually a watery grotto with sculptures of Polyphemus, the cyclops from Homer's Odyssey, and other scenes from Odysseus' travels...

Even into late antiquity and the early middle ages, the alleged bones of mythical creatures drew crowds. The emperor Constantine had a fascination with them. Saint Jerome states that the early 4th century ruler travelled to Antioch just to see the bones of a satyr that had been preserved in salt. The 6th century Byzantine historian Procopius notes that he stopped off in the Italian city of Benevento in order to see the 27-inch tusks of the Calydonian Boar famously battled by Greek heroes. As Mayor notes in her book, these were likely the tusks of woolly mammoths and not those of the mythic boar--despite what the signs at Benevento told visitors.
Roman Emperors, Monster Bones, And The Early History Of Fossil Hunting | Sarah Bond | Forbes | June 29, 2016

35 posted on 09/27/2021 8:26:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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[snip] The earliest documented case of a valuable fossil appropriated by a stronger state took place in 560 BC. According to the Greek historian Herodotus, the city of Sparta stole a giant skeleton they identified as the giant hero Orestes. The skeleton (most likely that of a mastodon or mammoth) had been discovered in Tegea, a town that Sparta sought to dominate. Spartan soldiers absconded with the skeleton and enshrined the bones in their own city. Possession of Orestes’ remains was a brilliant propaganda move and the power that Sparta reaped from the fossil coup eventually led to the Peloponnesian War. [/snip]

Fossil Appropriations Past and Present
by Adrienne Mayor
https://web.stanford.edu/dept/HPS/Mayorwhosebones.pdf

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Giants (Greek mythology)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giants_(Greek_mythology)


36 posted on 09/27/2021 8:45:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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