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Black woman in rural Texas unable to obtain ID needed to vote, advocates say system is unfair
abcnews.go.com ^ | Oct. 5, 2021 | Alex Presha and Briana Stewart

Posted on 10/05/2021 9:11:29 AM PDT by PROCON

Advocates say voter ID laws could disproportionately impact minorities.

As voters across Texas submitted voter registration applications on Monday, Oct. 4, ahead of the Nov. 2 statewide election, 82-year-old Elmira Hicks was left out.The Oakwood, Texas, native says she hasn't been able to renew her driver's license for more than a year because she has been unable to present the required birth certificate needed to verify her identity.

In the Lone Star State, election laws require voters to present a driver's license, passport, military identification card, citizenship certificate, state election identification certificate or a personal identification card to cast a ballot or register to vote.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: 1619project; birthcertificate; criticalracetheory; driverslicense; elmirahicks; fbi; merrickgarland; minorities; oakwood; racism; texas; voterid
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To: PROCON
"It's often very common for people of a certain age not to have a birth certificate. I want to emphasize it's not as uncommon as people might believe," said Franita Tolson, the vice dean for faculty and academic affairs and a professor of law at the University of Southern California Gould School of Law.

Birth certificates can be reissued.

41 posted on 10/05/2021 10:24:12 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: livius
"This poor old lady is just being used by the left."

This old lady, and whatever family members she has left, are allowing themselves to be used by the left. Probably getting paid for it too.

42 posted on 10/05/2021 10:24:29 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: mom.mom

mom.mom wrote:

“How did she get a driver’s license?”

Probably the same way my white Italian mother in law did, with her baptism certificate and church marriage certificate.

They (social security, medicare, DPS etc), no longer accept church docs as proof of age and proof of birth in the US.


43 posted on 10/05/2021 10:28:48 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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To: PROCON

And this is the basis for NOBODY needing ID to vote????????


44 posted on 10/05/2021 10:35:00 AM PDT by G Larry (Those destroying the Constitution must demonize those who would defend it.)
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To: PROCON
As usual ABC new is lying. Getting a copy of your Birth certificate is easy

Losing her's merely means she needs to get a new one. The same way should would need to do if she wants to fly, buy tabbaco or alcohol, open a bank account or any of dozens of normal every day life issues

Aug 11, 2021 — To get a copy of a vital record, contact the vital records office in the state where the event occurred. Get a Copy of Your Birth Certificate.

45 posted on 10/05/2021 10:44:11 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: mom.mom

New drivers licenses are typically real-id. These require more proof.


46 posted on 10/05/2021 10:44:44 AM PDT by pas
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To: PROCON

Absolutely ridiculous. I’ve worked as a precinct judge in Texas before and I can tell you that all sorts of identification can be used - utility bills, employee IDs, etc. At each precinct, there is an envelope for provision ballots. YOU CANNOT DENY ANYONE WHO COMES TO THE POLLS THE ABILITY TO VOTE!!!

The provisional ballot is filled out and stored in the envelope. A judge is then called to decide on the validity of the vote, which is done on a case-by-case basis.

There are federal laws about this.

So whoever wrote this story is either grossly ignorant or a baldface liar. Either is believable with modern journalists.


47 posted on 10/05/2021 10:51:06 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Chinese communism will look different once the masks come off.)
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To: PROCON

Yep. This is yet more pure agitprop...


48 posted on 10/05/2021 10:56:44 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: OrangeHoof

Of course it’s a lie. The author of the original article is conflating the issues of getting a Federally mandated “RealID” drivers license with being able to register to vote.

It’s a lie. They know it’s a lie.

They don’t CARE.


49 posted on 10/05/2021 10:58:09 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: JoJo354

It was also additional revenue for the state.


50 posted on 10/05/2021 11:10:57 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: JoJo354

When I went to get my “real” license they wouldn’t accept my orig marriage license (which is what the state based their info on), nor my orig birth cert (told them “those are my feet”).


51 posted on 10/05/2021 11:18:41 AM PDT by TwoSue
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To: PROCON

Even in the remote case her story is true, how many eligible voters have the same problem? They take a case that only affects a minuscule minority of people and blow it out of proportion.


52 posted on 10/05/2021 11:23:17 AM PDT by WilliamOrby
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To: PROCON

How many black “persons” in Texas are “unable to obtain ID needed to vote”? Somebody found “one” in “rural” Texas.


53 posted on 10/05/2021 11:31:38 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: PROCON

Voter fraud is ignored because it is never enough to change the outcome of an election BUT if some idiot can’t get a valid ID then all the elections laws have to be rewritten.


54 posted on 10/05/2021 11:31:56 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: PROCON

Texas is among the states favored by illegal aliens for issuing “Delayed birth certificates” based on little more than the statements of people who claim to know the facts of the birth. It’s been one of their scams for decades. Any immigration attorney worth his degree from Fred’s Online Law Schoo and Check Cashing Emporium could fix this problem in a matter of days.


55 posted on 10/05/2021 11:45:08 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: mass55th

Simply by showing her welfare ID card.


56 posted on 10/05/2021 11:46:43 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: PROCON

“””Black woman in rural Texas unable to obtain ID needed to vote, advocates say system is unfair”””


Here we have ONE anecdotal story about ONE BLACK woman who is having a problem being able to register to vote.

Well, then the ONLY solution, according to the Democrats and the media, is to NOT require anyone to have an ID in order to vote.

As the genealogist in my family, there is a lot of public available evidence besides a birth certificate that would prove a person was a citizen or not.


57 posted on 10/05/2021 11:48:12 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: PROCON

It isn’t even about intellect, the daughter emphasizes that’s it’s just too hard making her mother have to get an ID, not that it can’t be done.
They are saying it should be “easier” for someone who is old and black.
In other words, no voter ID laws, so the Dems can continue to cheat.
Like most of these stunts the Dems. have pulled over the years, I suspect much of this isn’t true and there are Dem. activists posing as victims. That’s the way Democrats operate.


58 posted on 10/05/2021 11:50:44 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: PROCON

No voter ID for anyone, because of 1 person?


59 posted on 10/05/2021 11:50:59 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: al_c

Yes, the few outliers in a situation like this one (which can probably be resolved) should govern voter identification for everyone.


60 posted on 10/05/2021 11:57:12 AM PDT by Cecily
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