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Nick Saban police escort barrels through Texas A&M fan storming field
Fox News ^ | 10/10/2021 | Ryan Gaydos

Posted on 10/11/2021 4:14:47 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe

Texas A&M fans created a raucous environment at Kyle Field on Saturday night after the Aggies upset No. 1 Alabama in the biggest college football shocker of the 2021 season. Police at Kyle Field may have had the toughest job of the night – escorting coach Nick Saban off the field. Texas A&M quarterback Zach Calzada (10) is surrounded by fans after the team's win over Alabama in an NCAA college football game Saturday, Oct. 9, 2021, in College Station, Texas. Texas A&M quarterback Zach Calzada (10) is surrounded by fans after the team's win over Alabama in an NCAA college football game Saturday, Oct. 9, 2021, in College Station, Texas. (AP Photo/Sam Craft) As the fans rushed the field, three officers surrounded Saban and led him to the locker room. One woman who got in the way was trucked by one of the leading officers. CBS 42’s Dee Jackson caught the moment as it appeared he was on the field while the pandemonium was ensuing. The SEC hands out fines for fans rushing the field and there will be no exception for Texas A&M. According to AL.com, a school could face anywhere between $50,000 and $250,000 for fans storming the field.

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To: deport

Iowa/Penn State got swarmed too.


41 posted on 10/11/2021 9:39:58 AM PDT by mware (RETIRED)
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To: BenLurkin

So Georgia fans are now embracing “Hope” again...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhSu9IWOXVc


42 posted on 10/11/2021 10:54:09 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: knarf

We need a reality show for much older Democrat voters that love the new “infrastructure” bill.


43 posted on 10/11/2021 11:00:34 AM PDT by Stayingawayfromthedarkside (D.C. (District of Corruption))
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To: dfwgator

Poor Georiga!


44 posted on 10/11/2021 12:01:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: dfwgator

Do they have one for Tennessee? I have a relative who is a Vols fan.


45 posted on 10/11/2021 12:02:48 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

He’ll love this one...

SEC Shorts - How Tennessee recruits quarterbacks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rNi-q-BkXk

Although I will say, Tennessee has been looking pretty good the last few weeks.


46 posted on 10/11/2021 12:04:53 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Thanks!


47 posted on 10/11/2021 12:08:33 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: whitney69
I was watching that game live when Jackson did that. I believe then and I believe now that the SOB did it on purpose

Side note on Jackson: while in college a group of us went to an Angels game, sitting by the RF foul pole. Jackson, then a Yankee was the right fielder, hitting an even .300

He struck out in his first AB. When returned to his position we started a chant: 299….299! …..299!!!

Second at bat was a repeat: 298!!! ….298!!!!

Third AB: Home Run

He returns to his spot and turns towards us and shouts: 27!!!

He had us!

48 posted on 10/11/2021 12:48:27 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Never do anything illegal, when you are doing something illegal. )
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To: the lone haranguer

Whoever it was, just knocking someone on there ass is not an appropriate LE response. If they were a real threat, they should have been arrested an led away in handcuffs.

How would you like a cop bitch-slapping your wife or sister to the ground because she was in their way?

An LEO should be trained better than that, unless their job is to be a fascist thug.


49 posted on 10/11/2021 3:24:43 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (The South will be in the right in the next war of Northern aggression.)
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To: MikeSteelBe

The security guard went for the defenseless girl. He backed off the man in white shirt who was directly in front of Saban and the other two guards.


50 posted on 10/11/2021 3:45:33 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan ( )
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To: HonkyTonkMan
The security guard went for the defenseless girl. He backed off the man in white shirt who was directly in front of Saban and the other two guards.

That will teach her not to mess with authority. Too bad she was blond and white, because the lawsuit would be rewarding.

51 posted on 10/11/2021 3:51:36 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (The South will be in the right in the next war of Northern aggression.)
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To: dfwgator

LMAO.


52 posted on 10/12/2021 12:10:32 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: Michael.SF.; whitney69
You can find a video clip of that play on YouTube from an MLB documentary with field microphone footage that wasn’t part of the TV broadcast. Three things stood out about the play to me over the years:

1. Jackson definitely interferes with the throw to first base. He admitted as much years later after denying it at the time.

2. However, it’s hard to blame the umpires in that case. I wouldn’t even consider it a blown call. Jackson’s interference was so subtle that it would have been damn near impossible for an umpire to see it in real time without the benefit of instant replay. The chaotic nature of the play didn’t help. The batter (Lou Piniella) lined the ball to the shortstop, and the baserunners had to hesitate in the base path because they would have been doubled up if it was caught. That’s why Jackson was frozen there between first and second base instead of running hard in either direction.

3. From the live video/audio clip, it’s clear that L.A. manager Tommy Lasorda didn’t help his cause when he was arguing with the umpires. He was ranting on the field justifiably, but he was making the totally wrong argument — probably because he himself hadn’t been able to see exactly what Jackson had done. Instead of pointing out that Jackson had deliberately interfered with the throw, he claimed that Jackson was somehow obligated to get out of the way to avoid the throw. That is simply not correct. A baserunner cannot deliberately interfere with a throw, but he is not required to make any effort to get out of the way of a thrown ball in the base path.

53 posted on 10/12/2021 12:28:12 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: MikeSteelBe

Not arguing the point of restraint; just pointing out that your rush to judgment wasn’t fair to the AL troopers.

Also, my wife or daughter wouldn’t be somewhere they weren’t supposed to be. Can’t say the same for that young lady or the hundreds of others storming the field.


54 posted on 10/12/2021 6:23:01 AM PDT by the lone haranguer (All civilized men love peace, but all truly civilized men must despise pacifism.)
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To: Alberta's Child

There are a number of things within your well written entry, that make it obvious to judge the question of Jackson’s lack of honesty and character. Just the point you brought up, “He admitted as much years later after denying it at the time.” is the very point of my entry.

For a few sports, I was an official for many years starting when I was 10 calling minor league little league games while playing in the upper division, and finally getting chased out with poor health in my 50’s. I prided myself on mechanics and rule knowledge in each of the sports I called. In baseball I was calling as high as Class A in California while in the military for a second job.

“Jackson’s interference was so subtle that it would have been damn near impossible for an umpire to see it in real time without the benefit of instant replay.”

Disagree with you there. When a player remains in the line and leans toward the throw to initiate contact literally falling over his right foot, it was quite obvious and should have been an easy call. And it was done right out in the open in plain sight on the ball. But the officials protected the game by not calling an effort to cheat by a “star player.” Twice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvWKWvrVfrI

They are payed very good money at that level to be professional and make the calls. This is one reason it is not a revolving door to be an umpire in the majors. But to be there has to display a consistency and dedicated effort to make the call. When the politics get into it, right or wrong, it creates a business atmosphere rather than sport.

And just the aspect that he admitted it years later is very telling. He not only cheated, but by not admitting it for many years describes his integrity. Ballplayers are not always good to the game. Look at the steroid problems and continual personal problems of ballplayers.

Ever notice that the umpires this year are stopping pitchers going to the bench and are checking them for substances and items used to scuff a ball like sandpaper or sharp items? Honesty? Not when so much of it is involving money.

But if you want to really think about the play, Russell purposely dropped the line drive to get the double play. Rule 5:09, a batter runner is out:

(12) An infielder intentionally drops a fair fly ball or line drive, with first, first and second, first and third, or first, second and third base occupied before two are out. The ball is dead and runner or runners shall return to their original base or bases.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y2015/official_baseball_rules.pdf

So did the umpires intentionally or accidentally blow the play that was right out in the open? Yep, at least twice.

wy69


55 posted on 10/12/2021 6:50:50 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: whitney69
When a player remains in the line and leans toward the throw to initiate contact literally falling over his right foot, it was quite obvious and should have been an easy call. And it was done right out in the open in plain sight on the ball.

That's the issue right there. I don't think it's an easy call if the baserunner "leans" and doesn't move in an obvious manner that requires him to step into the path of the ball.

The first base umpire on that play probably didn't see it at all because he was standing beyond first base and looking to make the call at the base itself. The only umpire in a position to make the call was the second base umpire. From the video you can see he was making a "safe" call -- indicating that the shortstop hadn't caught the line drive. I wonder if he wasn't looking at Russell to see if he would tag Munson right there on the spot after stepping on second base (which would have been an easier play to get the third out of the inning).

56 posted on 10/12/2021 7:33:30 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: whitney69
I don't think you can make the case that "politics" had anything to do with the call. As you pointed out, the umpire's may have blown TWO calls on the play -- one in favor of each team. If the umpires really wanted to "protect a star player," then they would have called the batter out and put Jackson and Munson back on their original bases, right?

Interestingly, I suspect Rule 5.09(a)(12) is rarely used on line drives -- because an umpire cannot easily determine if an infielder deliberately drops a hard-hit ball.

57 posted on 10/12/2021 7:49:13 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: Alberta's Child

“If the umpires really wanted to “protect a star player,” then they would have called the batter out and put Jackson and Munson back on their original bases, right?”

By the time it had hit Jackson, they had already committed to allowing the play to continue intentional dropping uncalled. It would have looked even worse for them to change the call on the dropped looper to Russell when it was allowed to continue and a run scored, especially at home. The screw up by the umps was not making the original call of intentionally dropping a ball in the air and killing the play before it could go any further. And there is no question he did drop it intentionally to get the double play as the film displayed. And they weren’t protecting Russell who was actually guilty of something first. They let him get away with it just as much as Jackson and never even brought him up.

“because an umpire cannot easily determine if an infielder deliberately drops a hard-hit ball.”

The ball clearly went into the pocket of the glove, dropped straight down in front of him while he was moving toward second base, and was scooped up a step short of second base so he immediately and easily could perform the act without even a toss to the second baseman as he was going to the base in the act of dropping it. There is no doubt as to it being accidental. It was intentional with a player taking advantage of the illegal act to gain an advantage. But Jackson messed up the opportunity to get out of the inning without the umpires being made to look questionable by not allowing the DP to be completed. If it had, no one would have been the wiser for either missed call.

Both calls were accomplished incorrectly. the only thing I can think of for a reason is to protect the integrity of the game and the players. Like I said...a lot of money.

“...suspect Rule 5.09(a)(12) is rarely used on line drives”

I have watched the show since I was about 5 years old and I can only remember that call being used two times. But the consistency with the protection of the players’ and game’s appearance has been a considerable effort of the league to angelize it since the late 1930’s. The rule is in the rule book, and the case book. It’s just ignored because of the appearance of malfeasance, or actual misconduct, to the adoring fan that goes to the games and buys the sports merchandise.

wy69


58 posted on 10/12/2021 9:11:05 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: whitney69

The more I think about it, the more I believe the MLB rulebook needs to be changed to address an obvious discrepancy. Is there any legitimate reason why a fielder is not permitted to deliberately drop the ball in that scenario, but IS permitted to deliberately refrain from catching it and letting it hit the ground untouched?


59 posted on 10/12/2021 9:43:55 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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