Posted on 12/07/2021 7:12:38 PM PST by conservative98
Ford CEO Jim Farley explained to Automotive News that not all of its customers are ready to make the transition, due to their specific needs.
"We have a lot of rural customers at Ford that a lot of other brands don't have. We have Super Duty customers who do heavy-duty towing: horse trailers, people in the energy business who are towing big-time loads over very long distances. It's hard for me to imagine that all those customers will go electric in the next 10 years," Farley said.
"They're actually as interested in the technology as anyone, it's just their use case is different than how we've designed the vehicles so far. It does feel, at least for Ford, the transition's happening faster than we thought. But again, it's the first inning of a maybe nine-inning game."
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Unlike GM, which has said it will go all-electric in the U.S. by 2035, Ford sees hybrids playing a role in its lineup for years to come. This sentiment is shared by Toyota, due in part to the difficulties of electric car ownership for urban customers with limited access to charging stations as the infrastructure is built-out.
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“not ready” is not a suitable substitute for “don’t want”.
And 39 million apartment dwellers with no access to a charger.
Leftists living in urban and suburban areas rarely drive more than 50 miles at a time. Here’s how they see it.
Worst case drive to office 10-20 miles on a full charge from overnight parking at home. Pull into parking spot at work. Plug in at the parking space in the office parking lot or garage. Each parking space has a charging station mandated by the government. Best case walk, ride bicycle, or take public transportation to and from work.
Spouse also drives less than 50 miles per day taking children to school, doing errands, and meeting with friends. Government will force businesses to install charging stations at every parking spot.
Vacations are easy. Drive 30 miles to airport and plug in. Fly to destination and use public transportation (Uber) to go to resort hotel. Stay at resort entire vacation. Uber or rental car for any time leaving the resort compound. Fly back to home city. Car is fully charged for trip home.
The woke urban leftists have no need for the range of a fossil fuel car. In their minds government will build, or force the building of charging stations everywhere. As to the inadequacy of the electric grid, again government is the answer. Government will compel the electric utilities to fix the problem. If necessary government will subsidize the infrastructure investment.
As to those of us in rural areas, who may frequently drive long distances or need power for towing heavy loads, it matters not to the urban woke liberal. They only know their world and if others can’t adapt to their world view they have no empathy.
The current Toyota hybrid technology is very likely the future of autos and small trucks ... big haulers, not so much. The Toyota hybrid is electric driven wheels with a small on-board ICE that charges the on-board battery and can be engaged to provide additional power to the drivetrain for short intervals. A driver still has to stop for gasoline occasionally to feed the on-board ICE but that is an infrequent event.
The price premium for their hybrid is small so considering a hybrid is not out of the question.
Think of all the enviowackos that buy these EVs (who have discounted all the environmental damage done to produce these vehicles) in order to save the planet for the children, imaging how they will react when they learn that their precious rain-forests are being chopped down quickly in order to mine nickel in the Philippines!!
“we have a government that’s hell bent on taking the choice away from us.”
Y’all WANT a government that’s hell bent on taking choices away from us, just so y’all can bitch about it.
You a citizen or a subject? Your choice.
I’m retired from GM and have bought only GM cars since I joined them in 1966. I’ve bought several dozen new ones since then. I currently own 5, a recent model SUV, and four toys. When they stop selling gasoline powered SUVs, I’ll stop buying cars from them.
I even met Mary Barra when she was a co-op student. I didn’t realize then that she was so foolish.
I spent hundreds of hours of my free time over the last few months helping to turn Virginia red. What have you done other than sit at your keyboard and shoot your mouth off?
There’s a lotta GOVERNMENT
“MANDATED”
“WILL FORCE”
“WILL COMPEL”
“WILL SUBSIDIZE”
in your post.
Soul, we have got to stop this moronic train wreck!
Live free.
You’re exactly correct. Sadly we have a few here on FR who’ve bought their bucket of manure and talked themselves into foolish decisions
Funny. I’ve considered myself a Chevy guy all my life but we happen to own two Fords right now, an F150 4x4 and a Ford Focus 30mpg car. The only reason we ended up in Fords is that it’s what I found for good deals.
Looks like I might be turning into a Ford guy on purpose now. There will be no such thing as a good deal on a used electric vehicle. By the time people are done with them, they’ll need new batteries which will be out of our price range. We paid $3k for the Focus and that’s the most I’ve ever paid for a vehicle.
Someday, I might have to find an old Mercedes with the 4-5 cyl million mile diesel and start making bioiesel to run it on.
A trip to my local Publix Grocery piqued my interest in that they now have FREE charging stations for EV’s. There’s a two-hour time limit, and I have no idea how much a charge while shopping would amount to. If more places follow suit, I’d be tempted if I were in the market for a newer vehicle.
Maybe I’ll grab a used EV some years from now if my trusty F150’s wheels start falling off.
Almost all households have more than one vehicle. I’d have no qualms buying an all-electric since I rarely drive more than 100 miles. For the times we would take a longer trip, I could just take the Expedition.
If I were still working, I’d buy one. Now I don’t drive enough to justify the cost of buying another vehicle of any kind.
Your “trusty F150” remains SAFE.
That’s the point...we have great transportation now...but NO, we have to change it. Now, let’s take a look at that pesky wheel..
Agree. Sadly the younger generation has been indoctrinated by public schools and colleges to seek government intervention to fix every perceived wrong and intervene as required to improve “the community”. They will trade freedom for perceived safety and security. We see how quickly people have given up freedom for the safety of masks, isolation and the vaccine when government orders it. Now government intervention to save us from climate change (i.e. security) will result in the masses accepting being herded into urban multi-family dwellings and giving up the freedom of the automobile for public transportation.
“ But unless one is rich why would they buy something with such limited capabilities?”
I’m far from rich, but also far from poor. Why I own one includes, but is not limited to:
$7,500 tax credit.
The ability to charge at home.
The lower cost of electricity vs gasoline per mile, especially with short commutes.
The far lower maintenance costs.
My short commute happens daily. My long trips (or towing) happens at best monthly.
Short trips are much harder on gasoline vehicles. My EV will extend the life of my gas burners, all of whom are older and paid off.
It’s a blast to drive.
Because their vehicles are pretty much trouble-free, unlike the three Fords I've had, which were all total junk.
Would you have bought it without the tax credit?
The far lower maintenance costs.
Until you have to replace the battery. And the lower maint costs - are these something you have been told or something you have experienced? I assume that no oil changes for EVs is part of it, but you still have to buy tires and get the tires aligned. And other than oil, air filters, and tires I haven't had to spend anything on maintenance on my two recent gas vehicles (2017 and 2019) I have a 1999 that has cost about $2100 in repairs over the years, but compared to the cost of buying a new car that is insignificant.
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