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New Medical Codes to Track Your COVID-19 Vaccination Status
Vaccine Impact ^ | 19 JAN 2023 | Brian Shilhavy

Posted on 01/19/2023 12:21:33 PM PST by consult

ALERT! International Medical Billing Codes Used by the U.S. Government and Private Insurance Now Track Your COVID-19 Vaccination Status

Leo Hohmann has just published a special report about how the International Classification of Disease (ICD) codes used by the medical industry for billing purposes under Medicare-Medicaid and the private insurance companies, now include a code for COVID-19 “vaccination status.”

This means that if you visit a medical doctor, or are admitted to a hospital, they will ask you whether or not you are up-to-date on your COVID shots, and enter that into your medical records.

Hohmann’s report confirms that this code is now being implemented and has started.

This is yet another reason why it is imperative to STOP using the medical system. If you don’t use their services, they cannot track you.

I know this seems like an impossibility to many people, as we have been brainwashed our whole lives to believe that we cannot survive without medicine and hospitals, but I assure you that it is possible. I have been doing it for years, and I raised my three children, now all adults and one of them with “special needs,” all without using the medical system.

Start looking for other healers in your community, or even online, if you have not done so yet.

(Excerpt) Read more at vaccineimpact.com ...


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To: Captain Walker

FWIW I got my flu shot at a drive thru at the county fairgrounds in November and it was on my med records two days later. I got an email telling me my record was updated.


41 posted on 01/19/2023 1:52:44 PM PST by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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To: G Larry
Then I tell them its none of their business.

That's the correct response.

One hundred years ago, I think Americans were by and large a breed who would have mostly given the same response, jabbed or not; the question would have soon demonstrated itself to be useless.

Today, not so much.

42 posted on 01/19/2023 1:54:54 PM PST by Captain Walker (Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.-Pascal)
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To: cableguymn
they ask for ID and insurance cards.. I highly doubt many are slipping through the cracks.

Are they all?

The advertisements in the NYC area emphasize that immigration status won't be asked. How are they capturing the illegals?

43 posted on 01/19/2023 1:58:51 PM PST by Captain Walker (Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.-Pascal)
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To: consult
And then there's this nurse on Alex Berensens substack with this email to him: (which makes me question how "efficient" this new coding system will be).

Hi Alex -

As a nurse for over 20 years I can tell you it is DELIBERATE that hospitals DO NOT ASK about covid vaccination status. Epic (the most common hospital charting system) does not register shots given at pop up vaccination clinics, roving vans or pharmacies or from many other health organizations (as you noted).

MANY of my patients show covid vax status as 'unknown', but when I ask them many have already have 4 shots (the people in my state are ridiculously compliant). We have an extensive covid checklist that we ask all patients, even outpatients, before they enter the hospital - so whether it's a quick EKG or a huge surgery that's going to require a 4 day stay you get asked the 'covid questions'

do you have any of the following symptoms (lists every cold and flu symptom known to man).

have you been diagnosed with covid in the past 3 weeks

Do you have a covid test pending?

Have you been around anyone diagnosed with Covid in the past 3 weeks?

Have you left the state in the past 3 weeks?

I think that's all of them, god knows I should remember since I've asked this a thousand times now. What's a HUGE omission from this list is their Vax status (since the Medical Gods have decreed that they will save us all).

WHY wouldn't they ask that?

It's also interesting to note that the hospital I work for REQUIRES a covid test, not on every patient, but on patients that are going to be admitted to the hospital. Allegedly this is for 'safety' but that makes no sense. Picture this. I work in the surgery department. Our department handles both inpatients (people who stay the night) and outpatients (people who go home the same day of their procedure).

So you can come into the same giant pre-surgery room with all the other staff and patients and we don't test you UNLESS you will be staying the night. So if you have covid you are probably exposing at least 50 people as an outpatient. I think it must be linked to the financial reimbursements they are getting- they probably only get reimbursed for inpatients who test positive at this point. It would be interesting to know.

— Also, one of the HUGE contributing factors to the nursing shortage (aside from the hated vaccine mandates that everyone seems to have forgotten is still imposed on ALL health care workers- thanks Joe Biden) is the MASKS. It is TERRIBLY unpleasant to have to work all day, muzzled. Psychologically, it's awful. As a caregiver I cannot connect with my patients the way I used to, which is super depressing. They can't even see who I am.

Physically it's dreadful and stuffy and I'm pretty sure I'm inhaling bits of it deep into my lungs all day. I HATE them, and so does every other nurse, doctor, tec [hospital technician], aide etc etc that I know. I'm not even talking about the horrid N95's which are actually PAINFUL to have on your face for more than about 10 minutes.

The CDC withdrew the guidance to make hospital staff mask (at all) and are leaving it up to the hospitals. So, in case you wanted to know, that might be the single biggest factor in the vast number of health care workers resigning currently IMO and no one seems to be getting it.

Anyway, this is just a jaded nurse ranting late at night. Thank you for all you do, you have given me hope in my darkest times. Thank you for having the courage and character to tell the truth. The world needs more people like you. We need people who have a fucking spine.

Wishing you every success,

XXX

— PS

Refusing the covid vaccine even though I thought I would probably lose my career and be living under a bridge helped me grow a spine. I somewhat miraculously secured a religious exemption. However this means I'm tied to the hospital I currently work at, so my career is at a dead end unless mandates are lifted. In the event I get fired, my career is over. No hospital will hire anyone without a vaccine. You can really only get an exemption if you are ALREADY hired. This is what it means for those of us who refused. If we need to move or if we get fired we are well and truly fucked.

However, I am more grateful every day I didn't get the jab. Refusing it was, and continues to be, "character building" as they say.


44 posted on 01/19/2023 2:02:22 PM PST by Mama Shawna
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To: cableguymn

I agree, but figure on it being opposite.


45 posted on 01/19/2023 2:02:59 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: consult

666


46 posted on 01/19/2023 2:28:55 PM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: Nifster

Or need a liver transplant.


47 posted on 01/19/2023 2:30:13 PM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: consult

Wow. There are so many interesting quandaries presented by this that I don’t know where to begin.

My understanding, not from this article because I admit to not having read it, from a different article on the subject, is that that code is followed by numbers added to it to indicate that the patient has or has not had the first set of Covid vaxseems, the first booster, the second booster, etc. My reading of descriptions of the codes suggest, at the very least, there are three- un/never vaccinated, partially vaccinated, and up to date vaccinated.

I reckon that we are soon coming up to the point that the bivalent booster will be “ruled” as out of date if it was obtained more than 5 months ago. Big Pharma has campaign funding bills to pay, after all.

I say this all presents an interesting opportunity for an AG to subpoena medical records and review them to determine if there is a relationship between vaxx status and recently diagnosed new cardiac and other conditions. Said AG could also subpoena insurance company records insofar as insurance companies must be doing their own data analytics to determine links between vaxx status and conditions so that they can price this into their rates when it comes to group insurance renewal time.

By the way, I wonder what the group rates are like for hospitals (most mandated the vaxseem for employees) versus some blue collar company that employs, say, fabricators and whose employer never made them get jabbed.

What are the average amounts in claims by policy holders at the hospital in Town A and the factory across the street from it in 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2022?


48 posted on 01/19/2023 2:58:52 PM PST by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: Right Brother

That’s not how medical coding works


49 posted on 01/19/2023 3:34:10 PM PST by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: Mama Shawna

“I think it must be linked to the financial reimbursements they are getting- they probably only get reimbursed for inpatients who test positive at this point. It would be interesting to know.” You are correct - reimbursement is based on inpatient status. Positive test not enough - must be documented that patient has active acute Covid infection. (Positive test can happen after acute phase). Also big difference is admitted FOR Covid? versus another condition and the person has Covid too (especially asymptomatic or mild case).
Things have changed since the beginning of the pandemic when positive test AUTOMATICALLY meant we had to code Covid as principal dx. Now Covid has to match the rules like other diagnoses to be the principal dx.


50 posted on 01/19/2023 3:43:09 PM PST by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: G Larry

Perfect answer! “If they ask whether I’m up to date on my vaccinations, I say “yes”.
because the Covid shot is NOT a “vaccine”.”


51 posted on 01/19/2023 3:52:21 PM PST by consult
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To: Right Brother

Yep...that is what will happen!

““I decline to state”.
Okay, we’ll code you as ‘unvaccinated’ then.”


52 posted on 01/19/2023 3:54:45 PM PST by consult
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To: consult

Yup

There’s a black market in compliant-adjacence.


53 posted on 01/19/2023 3:58:25 PM PST by combat_boots ( )
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To: Mama Shawna

All states maintain a database with the full name and phone number of all C19 vaccine recipients. Likely was mandated by the feds as they provided the vaccines for free.

Many states require all college kids to be fully vaccinated in order to attend classes. Hard to get a fake vaccine card for this as they simply query the states database.

Most medical records (EPIC, CENTRICITY ect) are not linked to the state database. Thus most peoples medical records likely say “UNKOWN” regarding your C19 immunization status. It’s up to you to tell the medical assistant logging in your visit whether you are vaccinated. In my opinion, only a fool would say “no.” Perhaps this is the first step in your social tracking. Perhaps it is a way to gauge damage done by the vaccine. I don’t know but I won’t participate in this social experiment.


54 posted on 01/19/2023 4:06:16 PM PST by consult
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To: Captain Walker

That is a different system. The state has their own system for tracking residents status for all vaccines. Doctors can check the database to see what vaccines a patient may need. If someone loses their covid card, they can create an account and download a replacement.


55 posted on 01/20/2023 12:33:29 AM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: Mama Shawna

“No hospital will hire anyone without a vaccine”

My oldest step daughter, unvaXX’d, was hired by a Spokane hospital in December.


56 posted on 01/20/2023 12:45:22 AM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: consult

"Have you had your updates?!!!"


57 posted on 01/20/2023 9:14:53 AM PST by 444Flyer (John 3, Revelation 20, Joshua 24:15, 1 Kings 18:16-39, Pick a side...)
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To: consult

There are 10,000+ codes.

There’s a code for being sucked into a jet engine. There’s a code for being attacked by birds.

You SHOULD be worried about the amount of brainpower your doctor is using to code your visit correctly so his employer can get paid instead of paying attention to what’s wrong with you.


58 posted on 01/20/2023 9:18:35 AM PST by Jim Noble (You have sat too long for any good you have been doing)
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To: SaveFerris
“It's not the Mark of the anti-Christ Beast...”

The digital infrastructure is being laid right now.

“World Economic Forum Unveils The ‘100 Days To Outrace The Next Pandemic,’ Calling For A ‘National Digital Infrastructure’”

“...These sickos and psychos will have their day, make no mistake about it. But for now, they are being used as vessels to bring God's judgment to pass on a world that hates his word.

In case you missed the memo, another shamdemic is on the way, and they are going to work overtime to make sure people are vaxxed to the teeth this time; and not just vaccinated, but to have it all precisely monitored...”

https://winepressnews.com/2023/01/19/world-economic-forum-unveils-the-100-days-to-outrace-the-next-pandemic-calling-for-a-national-digital-infrastructure/#comment-13338

59 posted on 01/20/2023 9:47:28 AM PST by 444Flyer (John 3, Revelation 20, Joshua 24:15, 1 Kings 18:16-39, Pick a side...)
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To: 444Flyer

Makes me afraid to take any shot

I’m afraid they’ll put that garbage with all kinds of stuff


60 posted on 01/20/2023 10:01:34 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did wha, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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