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To: SunkenCiv
Another view of what led to WWI is Wilson's War: How Woodrow Wilson's Great Blunder Led to Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, and World War II (2005) by Jim Powell.
6 posted on 06/29/2023 12:16:07 PM PDT by Carl Vehse (Move the Overton window to the right with defenestration.)
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To: Carl Vehse

It seems Wilson the Democrat is noted for a lot of orchestrated harmful stuff. Some things never change.


7 posted on 06/29/2023 12:28:39 PM PDT by apoliticalone (We need real justice not fictitious SOCIAL JUSTICE & DEI that is politics & propaganda, not justice.)
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To: Carl Vehse

I watched a four-part series on AHC (American Heroes Channel) called “Apocalypse WWI”, and learned a lot about the “Great War” that I didn’t know before. It uses video shot before and during the war with great narration. It is rerun on that channel every so often. It is also available on YouTube.


10 posted on 06/29/2023 1:12:06 PM PDT by Polyxene (Out of the depths have I cried unto thee, O Lord. Lord, hear my voice: Psalm 130)
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To: Carl Vehse

I reject the themes that think all longer term consequences of a war were/are possible to anticipate, particularly as far as changes to shifting alliances. There may be consequences but many cannot be anticipated when a war starts, or due to its causes; conditions that often only become clear “when the dust settles”.

Wilson was NOT the bigggest proponent for entering WWI - he was a reluctant late comer. If the disfunction of the League of Nations had anything to do with WWII, or if the terms inflicted on Germany in the WWI treaties caused it, neither was a result of actions directed by Wilson or due to actions Wilson had the power to prevent. The GOP controlled Senate kept us out of the League of Nations and Wilson had to play second fiddle to France and England with the Paris treaties and could not have forced them into a different result.

Blaming Wilson for everything is no different than not seeing what others saw, as detrimental to the U.S. and its interests, if Germany had won WWI, if Germany had defeated England and France. I think THAT would not have prevented WWII in Europe or prevented the Bolsheviks.

Many bad things in Europe evolved from changes wrought by WWI. Blaming them all, or even the most important ones on Wilson is not history and lets the Europeans off the hook too much.


13 posted on 06/29/2023 3:04:59 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Carl Vehse

Thanks!

Contrary to at least one of the nitwit Amazon reviews, this isn’t a “pro-German” interpretation of the war:

The Myth of the Great War: A New Military History Of World War 1
by John Mosier
https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-myth-of-the-great-war-a-new-military-history-of-world-war-i_john-mosier/432533/item/4186005/
https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-myth-of-the-great-war-a-new-military-history-of-world-war-i_john-mosier/432533/item/8733153/


14 posted on 06/29/2023 3:37:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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