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1 posted on 08/21/2023 4:57:35 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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A right is not a “privilege”.


2 posted on 08/21/2023 4:57:47 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Boling pot gets hotter.


3 posted on 08/21/2023 5:02:36 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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wait a minute...the leftist democrats keep telling us that they aren’t coming for the guns. I read it on the internet so it must be true...right?


4 posted on 08/21/2023 5:12:59 AM PDT by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" L.Star )
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“shall not be infringed”


6 posted on 08/21/2023 5:30:05 AM PDT by exnavy (Grow your faith, and have the courage to use it.)
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To: MtnClimber
I trust the ATF about as far as I can throw the white house.
I trust the Biden administration even less, if that is possible.

That being said, this article is deliberately slanted.

There are only 6 weeks out of 52 left in the fiscal year, so why the emphasis of "122 in this fiscal year alone"? Going from 90 to 122 is not a massive jump.

I am also curious as to why the author only cites numbers from the last 3 years, and also why he deliberately omits the total number of FFL holders. I looked it up. According to the folks at Silencer Shop, as of Jan. 3, 2023 there were over 130,000 FFL dealers in the 50 US states. Wow. Those 0.03% are experiencing quite the crackdown.

Just a thought, but is it possible that the overwhelming majority of those 122 FFL holders were "ridin' dirty"? And if they were, wouldn't law abiding FFLs and gun owners want them dropped?

The ATF is clearly involved in heavy handed restrictions of our constitutional rights, but this (gotta meet a deadline) article by Richard Moorhead offers nothing to support that this is one of those situations.

8 posted on 08/21/2023 5:40:01 AM PDT by 70times7
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120 out of 50,000? That’s a quarter of 1%. If that’s a crack down on the 2A, it’s a pretty poor job. Face it, some gun dealers, like doctors, auto mechanics, bankers, etc., just aren’t good at their jobs or are corrupt and put the rest of us at risk. The doctor losing his license to operate on a patient is losing his/her livelihood too but we’re safer for it.


10 posted on 08/21/2023 5:43:17 AM PDT by LumberJack53213
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Ah for the good old days before Dec 1968...

Interesting we rarely had school shootings back before the 1968 gun control Act became law.
Guns were more available then as you could get a gun at a gas station, pawn shop, hardware store, clothing store, record shop, book store, liquor store, feed store, grocery store. They were everywhere! Cash and carry. No background check, no waiting period, no paperwork. No ID, Just look old enough.
Or you could drop a check in the mail and one would be shipped to your door.
So what has happened since then to cause a change in the morals in the USA where everyone with a gripe has to have his vengeance for past wrongs, most of which are only in his head?
I would blame the mass shootings on closing down the mental institutions in the 1970s. Almost every shooter would have been considered mentally ill and locked up back in the 1960s BEFORE they went on a killing spree.

While it was LBJ who started the squeeze on gun stores, followed by Jimmy Carter, then Bill Clinton closed thousands of them followed by Obama and now Biden.

“Today we begin to disarm the criminal and the careless and the insane. All of our people who are deeply concerned in this country about law and order should hail this day.”-— Lyndon Johnson signing the 1968 gun control act into law.

And Thomas J. Dodd, who wrote the 1968 gun control act using the 1938 Nazi weapons law as a pattern...

“No one can predict how many lives will be spared because of this bill, but, if the bloody record of our yesterdays is any measure, millions of future Americans will live to enjoy the promise of many peaceful tomorrows.

I am grateful to have had the opportunity to play a part in this great moment in our time.”— Thomas J. Dodd on passage of the 1968 Gun control act.


11 posted on 08/21/2023 6:16:28 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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Now is the time for Firearm Manufacturers to institute a “Terms of Service Agreement” with all their dealers.

If you Sell or Transfer ANY of our products to a Public Employee or Officer of the Court, you will be forever BANNED from buying any product we produce or distribute.


15 posted on 08/21/2023 6:25:17 AM PDT by eyeamok
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Biden taking a page out of Pritzkers handbook. Make the FFL’s jump through so many hoops they go out of business. I bet in the last 5 years Illinois has lost over 50% of its gun stores.


16 posted on 08/21/2023 6:44:18 AM PDT by BobinIL
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18 posted on 08/21/2023 7:17:22 AM PDT by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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If you need the government’s PERMISSION (at any place along the line) to exercise your RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS, then is it really a “RIGHT”?!?

Technically, all the government would have to do to end gun sales (other than private person-to-person sales) is to revoke the licenses of all FFL’s and BAM! The government has, in effect, REVOKED the 2nd Amendment - at least anyone else in the future!


19 posted on 08/21/2023 7:30:06 AM PDT by ExTxMarine
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“Pedo Peter” and his whole administration suck.


21 posted on 08/21/2023 7:57:15 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hunter Biden’s pet name for his father on his cellphone. It was “Pedo Peter”. Jim Hoft )
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What are the reasons being given for gun dealers having their licenses pulled?
Is there an appeal process or a way to have their license restored?
Is this public record so you can look up the names of dealers that have lost their license?


23 posted on 08/21/2023 8:24:06 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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Brothers In Arms, dealer in Cedar Creek, TX closed in 2022. They told me the ATF just hassled them to death over paper work to the point they gave up before the ATF did. I didn’t get the whole story, but I gathered at some point the cost of lawyers, accountants, and bookkeepers was no longer profitable.


25 posted on 08/21/2023 11:55:43 AM PDT by MrKatykelly (Obama was the proof of concept puppet.)
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Update:

On a large local radio station yesterday was the weekly visit of "The Gun Guy", a 2A Attorney. I don't know if he was referencing this article, but he and the hosts were discussing the same numbers in the article. The attorney shared the story of a TSA agent who wants to quit. Why? Because the job used to be about helping and educating shop owners in doing it the right way. Today he says the job is all about finding any little reason they can to shut a shop down.

regardless, I stand by my implication that this article is lazy slipshod journalism. The author was too lazy to go find the real story so he tossed together a few numbers and made some claims. Again, I agree with the claims; the problem is that the drivel he wrote doesn't support the truth.

Those of us who understand that the government, driven by the left, is "progressively" eroding our gun rights are already aboard. The brainwashed pearl clutching leftists are a lost cause. The battle for hearts and minds is with those undecided and mildly convinced people in the middle who are open to the truth. Unfortunately, articles like this do a great disservice to winning them over. Essentially this article is a false flag because it is so easily torn apart.

Let's hope the author does better next time.

27 posted on 08/22/2023 4:44:22 AM PDT by 70times7
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