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Experts Say Arctic Trees Got Equatorial Rain
Ananova ^ | 3-22-2002

Posted on 03/23/2002 4:35:58 PM PST by blam

Expert says Arctic trees got equatorial rain

A scientist says giant trees survived in the Arctic Circle 45 million years ago thanks to a prehistoric weather pattern.

She says they were warmed and watered by moist equatorial winds which are no longer around and coped with four months of darkness each year.

The chemistry of the trees' fossils proves they drank water which evaporated over the equator and was transported north.

That ancient water almost matches water which makes a similar journey over vast areas of land today.

The island is now desolate apart from a few mosses but was once covered by giant trees known as metasequoias.

Professor Hope Jahren, from the Krieger School of Arts and Sciences at the Johns Hopkins University in Maryland, is now convinced the Arctic island of Axel Heilberg, in Canada, received equatorial rainfall.

Shee is trying to work out how the trees survived four months of darkness each year during the Arctic winters.

She said: "We don't have plants that can survive under those conditions today, let alone forests. For a tree to endure four months of daylight is like you or I going without sleep for four months."

Story filed: 12:23 Friday 22nd March 2002


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: expertssayarctic
When I saw this article, I couldn't help but think of the 'suddenly frozen' mammoths in Siberia. I know that these two incidents are millions of years apart, but.... (Maybe something similar, change of ocean currents, etc. happened to the mammoths?)
1 posted on 03/23/2002 4:35:58 PM PST by blam
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To: RightWhale;Farmfriend;JudyB1938
FYI.
2 posted on 03/23/2002 4:37:00 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

She is trying to work out how the trees survived four months of darkness each year during the Arctic winters.

She said: "We don't have plants that can survive under those conditions today, let alone forests. For a tree to endure four months of daylight is like you or I going without sleep for four months."

Prof., the four months without light is easy. In NJ the trees drop their leaves for about five months, efectively 'surviving FIVE months of darkness each year'. Her real problem is the way the obvious hugger is anthropomorphizing these dead frozen trees. She will never be happy until she finds out how they suffered.

3 posted on 03/23/2002 5:43:48 PM PST by StriperSniper
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"She will never be happy until she finds out how they suffered."

LOL. (I still have that opening, hee,hee.)

4 posted on 03/23/2002 6:04:50 PM PST by blam
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For a tree to endure four months of daylight is like you or I going without sleep for four months

We are about to test that theory. We test it every summer, and the trees seem to like 4 months of continuous daylight just fine. The don't even mind the 4 months of continuous dark at the other end of the year. They even tolerate frozen ground and start the springtime shoot-growing season at least a month before the ground even thinks about thawing.

5 posted on 03/23/2002 6:15:59 PM PST by RightWhale
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once covered by giant trees known as metasequoias

We don't have plants that can survive under those conditions today

You've got to be joking. Either this woman is a moron, or she thinks she can fool everyone.
Metasequoias, otherwise known as Water Pines, can be found in a remote area in China TO THIS DAY.
You can even buy them from specialty nurseries on the West Coast.
They are DECIDUOUS conifers, like their relatives the bald cypresses, and unlike the true sequoia and redwood.

I'll bet they don't mind 4 months of darkness, during their dormant phase.

6 posted on 03/23/2002 7:40:13 PM PST by petuniasevan
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"They are DECIDUOUS conifers, like their relatives the bald cypresses, and unlike the true sequoia and redwood. "

Yup. My bald cypresses are just beginning to put on their spring needles/leaves. (They've been bare all winter)

7 posted on 03/23/2002 7:48:20 PM PST by blam
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There are a few larch here. They are deciduous conifers, a scraggly, useless tree that doesn't do well, is structurally weak, grows to maybe 30' high when it doesn't break off 10 feet from the ground, yet somehow doesn't care about aesthetics and lives anyway. Just when you think the last one is finally dead, you come across another one farther back in the woods.
8 posted on 03/23/2002 8:06:54 PM PST by RightWhale
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The living fossil, a hot topic in paleobotany:

Hu, Hsen-Hsu and Wan-Chun, Cheng 1948. On the new family Metasequoia and on Metasequoia glyptostroboides, a living species of the genus Metasequoia found in Szechuan and Hupeh. Bull. Fan Mem. lnst. Biol. New Ser. 1(2): 153-161 (English, Chinese summary). [This is the original taxonomic description of the living Metasequoia glyptostroboides].

9 posted on 03/23/2002 8:46:33 PM PST by RightWhale
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10 posted on 03/24/2002 1:30:00 AM PST by uglybiker
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To: blam
I couldn't help but think of the 'suddenly frozen' mammoths in Siberia.

My theory:

The best browsing was right next to a retreating glacier. Abundant ice melt water. Rich tilled soil. Young tender vegetation. Shielded from the north wind by the bulk of the glacial wall. Extra sunlight and warmth reflected off the ice face.

Browse close to the ice face, and when an avalance happens you're pounded into the mud and packed in ice before you can even swallow...

11 posted on 03/24/2002 9:31:21 AM PST by null and void
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Expert says Arctic trees got equatorial rain

How can that be? I mean, with global warming and all, how could something like that have happened before the SUVs were around to cause it?

12 posted on 03/24/2002 5:28:27 PM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: blam
it's been many years since I studied this, and I don't remember when it was supposed to have happened, but millions of years ago, the earth shifted radically on it's axis, and today's north pole is a long way away from the previous north pole.
13 posted on 03/24/2002 8:39:49 PM PST by XBob
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