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AMERICA - The Right Way!! (Day 698) [Remember the Trade Center!!]
Various News Sources and FReepers | December 19, 2002 | All of Us

Posted on 12/19/2002 4:23:04 AM PST by Chairman_December_19th_Society

We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail!

Good morning!! Do not let the victims of the attacks on New York and Washington, nor the brave members of our Nation's military who have given their lives to protect our freedom, die in vain!!


December 19, 1998 - A GREAT DAY TO HAVE BEEN A REPUBLICAN!!

On that day, the GOP House ensured that Wilhelm von der Schlickmeister Blythe Klintoon would have his proper place in history by making him the first elected President ever to have been impeached and, collaterally, causing Vice Perpetrator Algore to remark that Klintoon would be remembered as "one of our greatest Presidents."


The Pravda is reporting the Administration has set an informal target of the last week in January to decide on whether to invade Iraq. The White House believes by then it will have gathered enough evidence on Iraqi malfeasence in the WMD arena to convince the UN Security Council Iraq must be dealt with once and for all.

In that regard, US intelligence has stated the Iraqi regime has created a larger and more powerful biological warfare capability, has weaponized their agents to such a degree they are highly aerosoled, and have put their labs in vans, so they will not be found by UN weapons inspectors.

And UOx42 has weighed in on Senator Lott:

"How do they think they got a majority in the South anyway?" Clinton told CNN outside a business luncheon he was attending. "I think what they are really upset about is that he made public their strategy."

He added: "They try to suppress black voting, they ran on the Confederate flag in Georgia and South Carolina, and from top to bottom the Republicans supported it." [Sourced to CNN]

Maybe the GOP should remind the former cretin of the White House there are many witnesses to him using the "N" word frequently while he was governor of Arkansas: Why Clinton Is MIA on the Lott Race Flap.

Meanwhile, Delighted Democrats Sharpen Anti-white Agenda

For AMERICA - The Right Way, I remain yours in the Cause, the Chairman.


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LET'S ROLL!!!

1 posted on 12/19/2002 4:23:04 AM PST by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: A Citizen Reporter; ABG(anybody but Gore); acnielsen guy; Angelwood; arazitjh; b4its2late; ...
I believe we're all set for the time I'll be away; I'll miss y'all.

Neets will handle the duty from December 26 through 30.

Sparta will get us going on December 31 and January 1. (He's new so we should all make sure we give him the proper ATRW welcome!

2 posted on 12/19/2002 4:26:31 AM PST by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
x42 is truly scum.
3 posted on 12/19/2002 4:27:11 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore)
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
Good morning Chairman and ALL you wonderful people.
4 posted on 12/19/2002 4:30:32 AM PST by lysie
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To: lysie; Bitwhacker; Sparta
Good morning everyone (AGAIN!!) Welcome Sparta...make sure you check in and pull up a chair, grab a cup of Tea coffee and tell us a little bit about yourself.
5 posted on 12/19/2002 4:33:42 AM PST by Neets
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
G'morning Chair & Troops. There's an "outside the beltway" fella sniffing around Iowa. Details:

Associates of retired general make Iowa caucus contacts
By THOMAS BEAUMONT
Register Staff Writer
12/19/2002

In a race now wide open with the departure of former Vice President Al Gore, retired Gen. Wesley Clark has made some preliminary steps toward an Iowa caucus bid.

Associates of Clark, the former NATO supreme commander who appears frequently as a commentator on CNN, have been calling Iowa Democrats with campaign experience to set up meetings and make contacts with influential party insiders.

Clark, who could offer the Democrats a fresh face and a credible voice on the issues of war and terrorism, said Wednesday the contacts were not about gauging his potential as a presidential candidate in the state that kicks off the race for the White House.

"It's not surprising that people are talking to me about this," Clark, 57, said in an interview with The Des Moines Register. "But in terms of considering it or working it or intent, the answer is 'no.' What I'm doing is I'm speaking out, hoping to get engaged in a dialogue to encourage Americans to look at their world and their role in it."

There are signs, however, that lead political insiders to suspect Clark may be giving more thought to running than he lets on:

more:http://www.dmregister.com/news/stories/c4789004/20029892.html

My apologies for not implementing all the tips I requested and received yesterday. It's hard to teach old (female) dogs new tricks :-)
6 posted on 12/19/2002 4:42:31 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society; All
Good Morning.

Oh how I hate the IMPEACHED X42.
7 posted on 12/19/2002 4:42:37 AM PST by kassie
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To: Sparta
Welcome. Thanks for stepping up to help maintain the thread in Chair's absence.
8 posted on 12/19/2002 4:44:18 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
Yes, he is scum, and I can't think of a better way to describe him and stay in the rules of the forum.

I am dead certain this is a plan hatched by scum and scumette, and I hope the hammer comes down on him soon.

9 posted on 12/19/2002 4:44:38 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Iowa Granny
UGHH just what we need...another X42 affiliate in the race.
10 posted on 12/19/2002 4:44:43 AM PST by Neets
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
Oh, happy December 19th!!
11 posted on 12/19/2002 4:45:14 AM PST by Neets
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
Good Morning Chair!

Back after a few days of R & R and ready to tackle another day!

You know, I think the RATs have overplayed their hand on Lott. They may get just what they've been harping on, a new majority leader. What they don't want however is a new majority leader, they wanted a damaged, weakened Lott, who they could then "blackmail" into following their liberal agenda (even more than usual). They now face the possibility of the Republicans electing a new Majority leader who will be more than capable and happy to smack these liberal pukes around.

And as for trying to "force" Lott out of the Senate completly in the hopes our RAT Gov could put a RAT in his place....they don't want to tread that road either, because then all of their dirty laundry will start getting more airing than it has presently (at least it will on those very few reputable news outlets), so I really don't see that happening. Look at some of the folks coming to Lotts defense, i.e. jessie "extortion" jackson for one thinks Lott has apologized and should not step down (wink, wink)

The RATs should be careful what they ask and whine for...they might just get it - and then they'll have a reason to whine!!!

12 posted on 12/19/2002 4:47:40 AM PST by Rivendell
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To: Holding Our Breath; Mr. Mulliner
Sorry to hear you weren't feeling well. Yesterday I was happy to see you were back and feeling better.

MM, are you sleeping well in your new home?

13 posted on 12/19/2002 4:59:55 AM PST by lysie
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To: Neets
Good morning everyone. The Drug Czar Moron Walters was just on a local morning program(WWL-TV), unfortunately I didn't catch any of his brillance.

Bush is still considering declaring Iraq in material breech.

Trent Lott says he will not resign as Senate Majority Leader and he lashed out at the President for leaking damaging information. This comes as RINO Senator Chaffee calls for Lott's resignation.

Here in the New Orleans area, former KKK leader David Duke plead guilty to tax evasion. He recieved a 15 month prison sentance and a $10,000 fine.

I am a newbie from Louisiana. A ping list I run is called the Western Civilization Military History ping list. I'm also a member of the FR Reading Club. I support closing the borders, oppose the War On Drugs, support the Second Amendment, oppose the Welfare state, very skeptical of Islam. Because of my ping list, I recieved membership in the Freeper Foxhole. I'm in the HOLD MUH BEER, WOD, IMMIGRATION, CANADA, EUROPE ping lists among others. On December 7, I was hanging out on the Louisiana election threads as we let the rest of the nation down by sending Comrade Landrieu back to the Senate.

BTW: I'm no Bushbot, but I'm very proud of President Bush's leadership in the war and for restoring honor and dignity to the White House.
14 posted on 12/19/2002 5:11:22 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/809041/posts

My commerative thread celebrating this great day in history four years ago.
15 posted on 12/19/2002 5:13:59 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
Breaking News: Syria has announced it will boycott the UN talks on Iraq.
16 posted on 12/19/2002 5:17:26 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Sparta
I would be interested in your thoughts as to why you are opposed to the War on Drugs.
17 posted on 12/19/2002 5:17:51 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: Iowa Granny
For mostly Constitutional reasons. I believe the Federal WOD is a violation of the Tenth Amendment taking away the states' rights to decide their drug policies. Also, our Fourth Amendment rights have been too compromised in this war. Also, I believe we need to take the profit out of dealing drugs and all the WOD has done is make drugs extremely profitable on the black market.
18 posted on 12/19/2002 5:22:42 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/newsstory/duke19.html

More on the good news of Duke's conviction.
19 posted on 12/19/2002 5:23:19 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson.asp

Victor Davis Hansen's excellent article about the carriers (tying them to a multitude of issues.)
20 posted on 12/19/2002 5:30:16 AM PST by Sparta
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To: *ATRW
America – The Right Way!!
The Daily Update – December 19, 2002

REMEMBER THE TRADE CENTER!!

AMERICA’S WAR ON TERROR – Day 465

The news as reported in The Washington Times:

[Note – All links go to The Washington Times’ website.]

1. The United States indicated there are “troubling” gaps in the Iraqi arms declaration.

[It is really amazing it took them 12,000 pages to say “we have no weapons of mass destruction”; in other words, lie.]

U.S. troubled by gaps in Iraq report

2. Senator Lott says he won’t give up and will fight to retain his leadership position.

[I think it is time for our side to shut up. It is now beginning to appear that the GOP is groveling.]

Lott promises he's 'hanging in there'

3. The Pentagon is planning on building a second missile interceptor site, either on the East Coast or in Europe, to counter the possibility of missiles from the Mideast.

[Good idea!]

Pentagon plans defense against Mideast missiles

4. Al Qa’eda has established cells in Canada with the “capability and conviction” to attack anywhere in North America.

[I do think the Canadians need to do a little more in the War on Terror.]

Al Qaeda said to be operating in Canada

5. Author Oriana Fallaci has written a tome that refers to Islam as a blight on the world.

[Oh, that’s going to endear her to a lot of folks.]

Author puts herself on front lines against Islam

6. Seems Malvo, the 17-year-old accomplice to the Beltway Sniper, isn’t happy with the vegetarian loaf he is receiving in jail and wants a custom meal; Fairfax county says if he doesn’t like the vegetable loaf, he can eat the same non-vegetarian meal as the other inmates.

[Woo hoo!!!!! Three cheers for the Fairfax sheriff!!! Outstanding!!!]

Malvo finds jail loaves to loathe

7. The Salvation Army has moved their kettles and bell ringers to cyberspace.

[Ho, ho, ho.]

New weapon for the Salvation Army


We shall not rest until we have cut a swath 60-miles wide through the entire left - taking all that is before us with us as we go. We shall leave nothing to the enemy that may be of value to him. We shall show him that he may count on nothing and will be able to keep nothing, not his spirit, not his soul, not that upon which he shall feed. We shall not cease until the moment we have rent through their entire land and have arrived at the sea, with our glorious victory upon us.

Home Page of the December 19th Society

HAPPY HOLIDAYS FROM THE SOCIETY!!!


Now you have the info, go support the United States of America!!!

21 posted on 12/19/2002 5:40:04 AM PST by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
Mornin' everyone!

Re: Malvo

What ever happenned to bread and water? I guess that would 'overly harsh and cruel?'

"Mr. Malvo's lawyers filed a complaint in November charging that the juvenile's placement in an adult detention center, as well as the condition of his cell, were "overly harsh and cruel." I can't understand what kind of person could be a defense attorney sometimes.....

22 posted on 12/19/2002 6:08:40 AM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Sparta
Thanx for your explaination. It's always good to understand where folks are coming from.
23 posted on 12/19/2002 6:08:45 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: All
Here is a local story, that I heard on the radio yesterday. I notice that Fox News has picked it up.

St. Joseph (Missouri) woman accused of defrauding disaster relief organizations

This woman fabricated a brother who was "killed" in the 911 attacks, and collected $64,000 from the Red Cross and various relief organizations.

24 posted on 12/19/2002 6:17:52 AM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Sparta
For mostly Constitutional reasons. I believe the Federal WOD is a violation of the Tenth Amendment taking away the states' rights to decide their drug policies. Also, our Fourth Amendment rights have been too compromised in this war.

I have an unease about pre-emptive seizure, it is too easy to abuse, and there are reports that it has been.

That said, I have to weigh in on the 10th Amendment argument. The Amendment basically says that if it ain't in the Constitution, then the function is reserved to the states and the people.

I will have to offer there are two distinct places in the Constitution that cover the WOD quite well. The commerce clause, and the common defence clause.

The notion the matter is the province of the several states would mean the problem is located solely within the states. The moment the material begins to transgress borders of more than a couple of states, then the issue becomes one of interstate commerce, and that is clearly under the province of Congress in Article I.

Similarly, when the material transgresses the borders of the country, the common defence clause kicks in if the item is considered a threat to the United States.

Now, that could be the matter of some debate, and prior to September 11, 2001, an argument could be made that it was not a National Defense issue, but rather something of a criminal nature.

Since that fateful day, however, we have come to learn that one of the funding sources for Al Qa'eda and other terrorist organizations is from the sale of coccaine and other illegal substances (heroin way up on the list there). We are at war against terrorist organizations of global reach, so by extension if they are getting some of their funding from "drug money," then it becomes a matter of National Security import, thus satisfying the common defense clause.

These form, in my mind, the two fundamentals on which the Federal Government can indeed involve themselves in the WOD. There is a third, somewhat more tenuous but still cogent point to be made, however, and it has to do with who is paying the bill.

Regardless of whether drug adiction leads to more crime (I tend to think it does, but there are arguments on the other side that say these people are too "bombed" to coherently put together such an operation, so I'll leave that alone), there is a cost to society that is borne because people adicted to drugs do not generally perform functions that add to the value of society (call it "work"), but rather have to receive the generousity of society (call it "welfare").

The welfare that is granted to drug users comes in many forms - unemployment checks, AFDC, WIC, methodone clinics, emergency hospital treatment performed gratis, clean up of our parks and common areas, and so on. Who pays for these? The taxpayer. And it is not just the taxpayers of the several states as citizens of states, but also in their capacity as taxpayers to the United States of America. I, for one, believe that if the US Government is paying the bill, then it ought to use all legal means at its disposal to ensure it is reducing the amount it has to pay.

But the fact it is paying the bill at all produces an interesting conundrum. Proponents of drug legalization argue on the state's rights issue, among other points, yet often (don't know whether you're in that crowd, you didn't say) insist the Federal Government provide money for drug treatment and education. You can't have it both ways. If the problem is a state problem, then it is inappropriate for the Federal Government to be involved in paying out money. OTOH, if the Federal Government is paying out money and that is acceptable, then the threshold has already been crossed - Federal involvement is all right.

Anyhow, that's my opinion.

25 posted on 12/19/2002 6:20:47 AM PST by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
"insist the Federal Government provide money for drug treatment and education."

I don't believe the Feds should pay for either. I think that Al-Qaeda and other trash would use drug money to finance operations if drugs were regulated and legal. As for the Interstate Commerce clause, all that this means is that the states will not place tariffs and other undue restrictions on goods from other states. As for dopers recieving welfare, I think welfare should be denied to dopers and eventually abolished for all.

BTW: This isn't a drug thread, so can we agree to disagree?
26 posted on 12/19/2002 6:27:08 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Sparta
welfare should be denied to dopers and eventually abolished for all.

I can agree with that. Welfare should be a societal function. Not a government function. For too many years people have confused government with society.

Governments are good a building big things, and breaking big things. Government is the wrong tool to use to provide assistance to the truly needy. Churches are better at that function.

/john

27 posted on 12/19/2002 6:34:31 AM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: Sparta; Bitwhacker
The nice part about ATRW is the fact that we can agree to disagree and no-one holds any grudges...it is one of the few places on FR where you can have reasoned debates without name calling or any hard-feelings afterwards.

And on that note, I am going home and back to bed.
28 posted on 12/19/2002 6:37:34 AM PST by Neets
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To: JRandomFreeper
When do you get your Slice-n-Dice wrist looked at?
29 posted on 12/19/2002 6:37:55 AM PST by Neets
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To: A Citizen Reporter
St. Joseph is my husband's home town. Ugh! I bet they are mortified!
30 posted on 12/19/2002 6:39:25 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society; Sparta; All
Good Morning Chairman! Good Morning everybody!

Welcome to ATRW, Sparta!

31 posted on 12/19/2002 6:39:47 AM PST by Pippin
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To: Neets
Waiting for a call-back. The office doesn't have a human on the phone until after 0900 CST.

Fox just showed some F-18s from the George Washington returning home. Lump in the throat time. God bless the men that fly and fight.

/john

32 posted on 12/19/2002 6:41:00 AM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: Neets
Take care of yourself.
33 posted on 12/19/2002 6:43:13 AM PST by kassie
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To: kassie
Thanks Kass!! Will do.
34 posted on 12/19/2002 6:44:23 AM PST by Neets
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To: JRandomFreeper
Keep us posted then.
35 posted on 12/19/2002 6:44:40 AM PST by Neets
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To: Neets
0930. I'm amazed. Someone actually checked messages. Now to get ready. LOL! I didn't expect them to move so quickly.

/john

36 posted on 12/19/2002 6:48:09 AM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: JRandomFreeper
God bless the men that fly and fight.

Amen!

37 posted on 12/19/2002 6:49:17 AM PST by kassie
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To: Neets; Bitwhacker
Might you consider seeing a doctor, Neets? This has been lingering ...... and you're feeling bad enough to leave work and we know you're anything but a shirker.

Think about it, Sweetie. And take care!

38 posted on 12/19/2002 6:49:44 AM PST by kayak
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To: A Citizen Reporter; ABG(anybody but Gore); acnielsen guy; Angelwood; arazitjh; b4its2late; ...
I haven't posted the ping list in a while so here 'tis. Please let me know of additions, corrections, or deletions that need to be made.

A Citizen Reporter; ABG(Anybody but Gore); acnielsen guy; Angelwood; arazitjh; b4its2late; backhoe; bamafour; bevlar; Billie; Bitwhacker; BlueAngel; bmwcyle; Brad's Gramma; Cammysmom; Carolinamom; CFW; Chairman_December_19th_Society; Citizen Soldier; Common Tator; CONSERVE; costking; DallasGal; dansangel; deathscythex; DJ88; Dog; duckbutt; EDINVA; Elkiejg; Foghat; gardner; Georgia on my mind; grannie9; grayson50; gulfcoast6; habs4ever; Holding Our Breath; Howlin; ICFN(ICan'tFixNothing); illstillbe; Iowa Granny; ItsBacon; Jemian; JHENN22499; JohnHuang2; Josephine; jtill; kachina; Kanell; kassie; kayak; ken5050; Lady Jo; LBKQ; lepton; LionsDaughter; Lorena; Luis Gonzalez; lysie; M Kehoe; McLynnan; milagro; Miss Marple; Molly Pitcher; MozartLover; Mr. Mulliner; Neets; Northern Yankee; Not gonna take it anymore; ohioWfan; okimhere; oldcodger; OldDominion; oldngray; pettifogger; Pippin; pollyshy; Pray4USA; Purdue Pete; Reaganomics; Redleg Duke; rejoicing; Rivendell; Ron C.; Snowtrill; Sparta; Species8472; still lurking; suni; sunshine state; tanglecreek; TBarnett34; Teacup; The Coopster; The Raven; tillacum; Two Thirds Vote Aye; Utah Girl; W.; WIMom; Yellow Rose of Texas

Everyone have a great day! I won't be here much ...... but will have you in my pocket so y'all behave.

gc6 ~~~ praying for your daughter! and you! .... *hugs*

39 posted on 12/19/2002 6:58:37 AM PST by kayak
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To: A Citizen Reporter; ABG(anybody but Gore); acnielsen guy; Angelwood; arazitjh; b4its2late; ...
Now I have the full list, I'll say Good Morning to all again! :^)
40 posted on 12/19/2002 7:00:26 AM PST by Pippin
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To: Pippin
Good morning! I am trying to get motivated to do something, but for some reason today all I can think about is how sleepy I am.
41 posted on 12/19/2002 7:11:51 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
I Freepmailed Neets last night. I'll also be in on the 30th.
42 posted on 12/19/2002 7:16:30 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Pippin
Good morning Pippin. How are you doing?
43 posted on 12/19/2002 7:18:11 AM PST by kassie
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To: All
I think gremlins are in the system again. Here is the sequence that just happened to me.

1. Typed reply to Pippin and hit "post reply." Post didn't show up.

2. Thhinking that maybe I was hitting the wrong button, I hit reload button on the thread, and no post showed up.

3. Thinking that perhaps I had not hit the "post reply" button, I went to "My comments" to see if there was a post #41 listed from me to Pippin. No post showed in the list, even whenI hit the reload.

4. So then I went back to the thread to post my reply to Pippin, and there it was!

Boy, talk about a Twilight Zone moment!

44 posted on 12/19/2002 7:19:13 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
Well that was strange.
45 posted on 12/19/2002 7:23:37 AM PST by kassie
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To: Neets
Good heavens to Mergatroyde, are you still sick? Or sick again???

Take care of yourself, Sister!

46 posted on 12/19/2002 7:35:11 AM PST by MozartLover
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To: lysie; Redleg Duke
Thanks lysie, this is a terrible tiome of year to be down and out! I especially feel bad about missing (possibly) meeting with Redleg Duke. He was supposed to work in my town this past week and e-mail me when we could get together. We weren't able to have coffee after-all.

How have you been lately?

47 posted on 12/19/2002 7:37:48 AM PST by Holding Our Breath
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
An extra prayer please for my son's college roommate who is a fighter pilot.......Pete G. 28 yrs. old. originally from Texas! He's ready to roll.
48 posted on 12/19/2002 7:38:15 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
Mr. Chairman, re. your #25, just thought I'd add that what is today's FBI was started in 1910 under the Mann "White Slavery Act." The law was to suppress inter-state transport and conduct of prostitutes and prostitution, and like the WOD, it was based upon the Commerce Clause. And those were the days when that clause was taken seriously. There was a brief hysteria that led to the Mann bill, as we can see by its name. It took the general Federal policing powers away from the Secret Service and Treasury and put them into the Justice Dept. Treasury policing powers today are based on jurisdiction over revenue sources.

Prior to the Mann Act, the Secret Service was active in general government investigations. Had Theodore Roosevelt his way, we'd have not the Federal Bureau of Investigation, but the "Secret Service," an all-round unfortunate name, in my opinion.
49 posted on 12/19/2002 7:59:03 AM PST by nicollo
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To: OldFriend
Iraqi mouthpiece on FOX... from Iraq.....giving Saddam reasons why he handed in a 12,000 report....

"We are not worried because there is nothing THEY CAN PIN ON US......"

Odd choice of words...

50 posted on 12/19/2002 8:04:22 AM PST by Dog
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