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The Guild 2-18-2003 I am girly man, hear me roar!

Posted on 02/18/2003 4:54:49 AM PST by BigWaveBetty

Dominique de Villepin plots with Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin, "My next ploy will be crying, if that doesn't work I'll hold my breath until we get our way. If necessary I'll toss my curls and stomp my feet!"

Raffarin laments, "Geez, haven't you embarrassed us enough?"



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1 posted on 02/18/2003 4:54:49 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; Billie; mountaineer; Timeout; BigWaveBetty; ClancyJ; daisyscarlett; LBGA; ...
Good Morning!
2 posted on 02/18/2003 4:55:25 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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My address book is the first casualty of war

By Stephen Pollard
timesonline.co.uk

I am a warmonger. I am bloodthirsty. I am rabid. My friends want only peace and harmony, but I want to wreak destruction and killing. I want to see British soldiers doing the Texan moron’s [Well that was uncalled for.] dirty work for him.

Almost alone among my friends, I did not go on The March. My absence was not due to ambivalence, but because I considered the march to be contemptible. I think the marchers are not only wrong but dangerously, wilfully, shamefully wrong.

Since this is, literally, a matter of life and death, I have been prepared to tell them precisely why I think that they are so in error. Their response has been to tell me what they think of me.

In all my 38 years, I have never before felt such a sense of personal shock. I am shocked that so many of my friends would rather a brutal dictator remained in power — for that would be the direct consequence if their views won out — than support military action by the United States. I am ashamed that they would rather believe the words of President Saddam Hussein than those of their own Prime Minister. I am nauseated that they would rather give succour to evil than think through the implications of their gut feelings.

It is a shocking experience to realise that your friends are either mindless, deluded or malevolent.

I used to think that 9/11 was the most important day of my life. It was indeed a day which transformed the world; its influence will be felt for decades, if not centuries. But however foul the “America had it coming” refrain, that came mainly from the usual suspects. This is different. This time the words come from friends.

I have many friends with whom I disagree politically; it would be a small-minded person who could not say that. But this goes beyond mere politics. This is about fundamentals. And what makes it truly shocking is how many normal, apolitical, otherwise decent people are so deeply wrong, so stridently misguided.

I have tried to point out that saying you are in favour of “peace” is meaningless. Which sane person is not? The question is: peace on whose, and what, terms? If it is peace on the terms of brutal dictators, secured by allowing them to build up whatever weapons arsenals they wish, then that is not peace. It is suicide.

Aha, but it is the UN which should decide this, not the US. Tell them it has, through 17 resolutions, and they tell you that Iraq should not be singled out for action, or that we need to give the arms inspectors “more time” — as if 12 years were not enough. And what should we do when they have had more time? “You are just looking for an excuse for war.”

Most of my friends on The March could not place Iraq on a map, let alone describe the contents of Resolution 1441, which finds that “Iraq has been and remains in material breach of its obligations” and imposes a deadline “not later than 30 days from the date of this resolution” for Iraq to supply “a currently accurate, full, and complete declaration” — a date which fell on December 9. Tell them this, and they say that it’s critical to stick by the UN, without being able to grasp the contradiction.

How can I use the word “friend” to describe such people? It is not that they are wrong, but that our moral frameworks are so entirely different. They wallow in their sense of superiority, but what they wish to protest against, I thank God for. What they consider an affront, I salute. What they regard as a moral outrage, I regard as the only safe way to conduct world affairs. What they stand for, I feel sickened by.

This is not about Left versus Right. It is about freedom: those who are willing to protect it, and those who take it for granted.

3 posted on 02/18/2003 5:10:39 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
Thanks for the fresh thread and for the letter from the UK.


4 posted on 02/18/2003 5:26:44 AM PST by lodwick (Plan as if you'll live forever, live as though today's the last. No regrets.)
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To: BigWaveBetty
134 dead in subway arson S.Korean tragedy

5 posted on 02/18/2003 5:33:24 AM PST by lodwick (Plan as if you'll live forever, live as though today's the last. No regrets.)
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To: lodwick
It's certainly my pleasure.

Uh-oh! The French have PO'd Cindy...

France only leads world in arrogance FRIG the frogs.

Screw-ay les Francais.

Up the French.

France, a countrylet forever famous for immortal boons to civilization like shoemaker Christian Leboutin, dressmaker Christian LaCroix, stylemaker Christian Dior, is dissing the United States?

Mes enfants, vous can take votre French toast and shove it up your cafe au lait.More

6 posted on 02/18/2003 5:35:06 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: lodwick
Oh how awful. Say a prayer for those poor souls.
7 posted on 02/18/2003 5:36:51 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
Seems like a tragedy a day it seems, from the stupid Chicago club deaths yesterday, the Columbia, weather deaths in the NE, no telling how many on the roadways of the world, and if things get slow, the terrorists or the palis can always be counted on to pick up the slack.

Even so, come quickly Lord Jesus.
8 posted on 02/18/2003 5:57:30 AM PST by lodwick (Plan as if you'll live forever, live as though today's the last. No regrets.)
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Bully for the Brits again.

A CHILD protection agency in Britain has called for a boycott of Roman Polanski's Oscar-nominated movie "The Pianist," because the fugitive director was convicted of statutory rape once and may try it again. Blasting Polanski's nomination, Phoenix Survivors spokesperson Shy Keenan declared, "To those who have turned a blind eye, who are you to forgive? Would you if it was your child? . . . They may forgive the crime, even if they were not the victim of it, but unless you treat the sickness the crime will happen again." The L.A. district attorney has said Polanski will be arrested if he tries to attend the Academy Awards next month. [I think I would have kept that quiet and let him show up.] PageSix

Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that if Ann was gay with 14 personalities this play would've never been written?

IN her memoir "Call Me Crazy," formerly gay actress Anne Heche claimed she had multiple personalities. She got to see 14 of them in the flesh last week. Heche stopped by the Hudson Avenue Theater in Los Angeles to catch a performance of "Call Us Crazy: The Anne Heche Monologues," a well-reviewed - and unauthorized - take on Heche's book which features 14 actresses "performing" passages from the autobiography. Included in the show are monologues based on Heche's breakup with Ellen DeGeneres and the time she roamed the California desert on ecstasy, claiming she was from outer space and had to take the drug in order to board her spaceship. Heche and hubby Coley Laffoon decided to check out the play after seeing a sign advertising it, but left early. According to L.A. gossip site Filth2go.com, the Laffoons "exited the theater in horror" as Heche exclaimed, "This is sick." PageSix

We hear.... (bill clinton's a frog lover)

THAT Heidi Klum, Eve, Jennifer Aniston and Bill Clinton have been getting supplies of Ciroc, the chic new starchless vodka distilled from French grapes . . . PageSix Hmmm, bill and Heidi get their vodka at the same place? What a cowinkiedink.

9 posted on 02/18/2003 6:00:29 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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I'm getting way too good at this. My question about whether this play would have been written if Ann were gay... Seems the website Filth2go.com, who took great pleasure in pointing out that Ann's looney is way gay. Do not go there unless you have a very strong stomach.

On their front page:

The ultimate, irrelevant, weekly gossip column for gay people and their friends.

10 posted on 02/18/2003 6:13:58 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
Shouldn't "vodka" distilled from grapes be called brandy? I wonder if x42 is as big a lush as his daughter.
11 posted on 02/18/2003 6:36:42 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Peace-mongering celebs were out in force on Saturday.

Susan Sarandon, Danny Glover, Harry Belafonte and Pete Seeger were the headliners at the antiwar rally near the United Nations. Joining them was Jerry Springer - the same man who whipped his cross-dressing, two-timing talk show guests into a frenzy of trash-talking and hair-pulling.

In London, Minnie Driver, Ian McKellen, Bianca Jagger and Tim Robbins were among the those who came to Hyde Park to urge Prime Minister Tony Blair to "make tea, not war." Harold Pinter and Jesse Jackson were among the speakers.

And in L.A, Martin Sheen, Rob Reiner, Anjelica Huston, James Cromwell, Mike Farrell, Christine Lahti, Tim Daly and producer Judy Myers joined a march down Hollywood Blvd.

President Bush does have a few folks from the arts on his side. You remember how some poets won media attention by forcing First Lady Laura Bush to postpone a literary seminar at the White House? Now we have Poets For the War. Their names and poems can be found at www.poetsforthewar.org.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/60562p-56624c.html
12 posted on 02/18/2003 6:41:00 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: BigWaveBetty
Andrew Sullivan toys with the idea that French/German moves against Bush are coordinated with the Democrats. Think about it. The Euros who support Bush are conservative governments: Italy, Spain, etc. "Winston" Blair is the exception. Add Ariel Sharon to the mix and you can see the libs getting nervous at conservatives succeeding throughout the world.

The Dems were getting nowhere trying to take Bush on head-on. So did they arrange for their lib-brethren in Europe to do it for them? With all the Euro "unfriendly" opposition to Bush, the refrain among Dems is that we must take Euro opposition seriously and they then criticize Bush for not bringing Europe "on board". I wouldn't be surprised to find out it was Clinton who set the wheels in motion. Don't forget that Carville and Begala were consultants to the Iraeli Labor Party opposing Sharon and they were involved in Gerhardt Shroeder's campaign. So the back channels were already established.

The more I think about it, the more I believe the Dems were involved in the French/German decision to oppose Bush. They certainly are giving the weasels cover here at home.
13 posted on 02/18/2003 6:50:28 AM PST by Timeout
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To: mountaineer; *The GUILD
Freedom of Speech


"WE WOULD RATHER DO BUSINESS WITH 1000 AL QAEDA
TERRORISTS THAN WITH A SINGLE AMERICAN"


This sign was prominently displayed in the window of a business in Philadelphia. You are probably outraged at the thought of such an inflammatory statement. One would think that anti-hate groups from all across the country would be marching on this business... And that the National Guard might have to be called to keep the angry crowds back. Perhaps in these stressful times one might be tempted to let the proprietors simply make their statement . . . We are a society who holds Freedom of Speech as perhaps our greatest liberty . . .And after all, it is just a sign. You may ask what kind of business would dare post such a sign?









A Funeral Home (Who said morticians had no sense of humor?)
14 posted on 02/18/2003 6:51:38 AM PST by lodwick (Plan as if you'll live forever, live as though today's the last. No regrets.)
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To: mountaineer; Endeavor; Iowa Granny; Hillary's Lovely Legs; All
Even though I hate poetry that looks like a must check it out.

Another must read: Decent, honorable men can disagree From a University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign professor Walt Harrington. Get past the first two paragraphs and you'll be pleasantly surprized.

15 posted on 02/18/2003 6:51:43 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: All
Another snot-nosed liberal San Francisco poof opines, this time mocking those who are dismayed with the French:

Two letter writers in the past week have suggested that, if I don't like it here, I should move to France.

Oh please, massa, don't throw me in that briar patch.

Imagine: condemned to eat amazing produce and linger over fine coffee in a bistro or a boite. Banished to the twisty streets of Montmartre or the sun- washed fields of Arles. Just me and the other craven hypocrites, eating at long tables in the apple orchard and singing Gypsy songs by firelight. And to think, I could have been back home buying duct tape and plastic sheeting. full column

16 posted on 02/18/2003 6:52:18 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: lodwick
Oh my, it took a minute for that to register... LOL!
17 posted on 02/18/2003 6:54:29 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: Timeout
I think you and Andrew are on to the real deal. Especially since their embarrassing defeat in Nov. last year. Let's not forget how bill goes abroad (pardon the pun) and mental giants like Mandella slobber all over him as he speaks ill of the U.S.
18 posted on 02/18/2003 6:58:10 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty; All
Chelsea Interviews Jake G.
February 7, 2003

Chelsea Clinton has made her debut as a magazine interviewer - by chatting to movie hunk Jake Gyllenhaal for America's Interview.

The odd couple are pals and decided to quiz each other over the phone for the mag's latest issue.

Clinton, who's studying at Britain's Oxford University chats to Gyllenhaal about their first meeting at a party at Ted Danson and Mary Steenburgen's house.

Gyllenhaal recalls, "I remember going to your father's 51st birthday on Martha's Vineyard, where we met. Both our families are friends with the Danson-Steenburgens."

Meanwhile, Clinton admits she's thrilled her parents are planning a trip to Oxford, where dad Bill once studied, because it will be the first time she's had the opportunity to "share my Oxford with my mom".

The couple then go on to talk about the impact JD Salinger's classic novel Catcher in the Rye has had on them.

http://www.teenhollywood.com/d.asp?r=29539&cat=1027
19 posted on 02/18/2003 7:02:45 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: BigWaveBetty
Further fodder:

"Girly-man" ex-President Carter has joined with the "Not in Our Name" anti-warAmerica campaign.

Carter the Weasel

20 posted on 02/18/2003 7:03:32 AM PST by Timeout
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