Nasa E-mails prove that Nasa knew - and I told you so - anyone care to apologize?

2/27/03 | Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

[Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh]

My first post on this forum was in relation to the initial Nasa Press Conference after the horrible disaster. I said that the Director's response to questions asked made me think he was hiding something. I said he was side-stepping the issues asked about. I cited my experience as an attorney and the thousands and thousands of questions/answers I had experience in tense legal situations.

I was flamed over and over again. My registration date was cited to attack my opinion. My profession as a lawyer was cited to attack me personally and my opinion.

The moderator even removed my post. "Comment #129 Removed by Moderator" http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/833981/posts?q=1&&page=101

I wrote "It wouldn't be the first time someone in a government-funded program or agency skirted the truth in order to justify their mistakes, or to avoid negative fallout.

I don't know what he knows or doesn't know. All I know is what I heard in the press conference. And, as someone who has professional experience in Question and Answer sessions dealing with serious or touchy subjects, I'm just trying to offer my reaction to his response.

Noone asked him if tiles could be repaired. All that was asked was if Nasa had considered a spacewalk to investigate the impact that occurred during launch.

His answer was totally defensive. Between several of his responses, the "theme" was "Nothing could have been done to repair tile damage" - I don't believe that for a minute. Regardless, who cares if it couldn't have been repaired? That is NO justification for failing to fully investigate before re-entry.

158 posted on 02/01/2003 2:08 PM PST by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh"

People like "steveegg" called me a "trial lawyer troll since 2/1/03" etc. Typical Freeper response to a new person who dares to suggest that someone did something wrong. (Unless that someone was a liberal or foreigner or a non-conservative etc)

Well, the emails show that Nasa knew DAYS before the re-entry that there was a problem, that there was potential for a catastrophic left wheel/wing failure. And they didn't do jack squat about it. They let those 7 heroes come back and "crossed their fingers" hoping that the Red-Flag was wrong.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/nasaemail1.html

You know what? This isn't the first time that I have been personally attacked and flamed for showing up with an unpopular opinion or forecast.

Remember the Bush-Gore election? I was the first person on this forum, or ANY forum for that matter, who posted a warning that Gore was going to attempt to selectively challenge vote tallies in heavily democratic areas, and that Gore might WIN the election by doing that.

AND I WAS RIGHT.

And I got flamed and insulted and called every bad name in the book - until, of course, I was proved right over the next 24-48 hours after that post.

Want the proof? http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/111000-04.htm

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For any of you who would like to apologize for how you flamed me, insulted me, and called me names, attacking me personally for the posts I made calling into question the Nasa director's evasive responses, and my conclusion that they did something wrong and that they KNEW, please feel free.

For those of you who don't feel like it, at least maybe you will commit to thinking before you type next time. Because, I for one, am ashamed of many of the self-described "conservatives" on this website who are so close-minded, so quick to defend ANYTHING that they deem patriotic or conservative, that you end up embarassing yourself, and the true conservative ideology.

May God Bless the 7 heroes who died, and their families, and may we rise to the occasion, and fix what we did wrong, fix the ineptitude and idiocy that led to their senseless and avoidable deaths.

[big bad easter bunny]

You aren't looking for apology reparations are you?

[joesnuffy]

ewe ewe ewe he said sheepishly

[Poohbah]

The department in charge of rendering any sort of apology to ambulance chasing scum is managed by Ms. Helen Waite.

So go to Helen Waite for your apology.

[clintonh8r]

"Noone"? This is series!

[Cicero]

If you put a chip on your shoulder, someone is sure to knock it off.

I missed the original thread, but if you got flamed it was probably more a matter of the tone of your comments than the substance. A lot of us agree that NASA got into a pretty sorry state at the top levels during the clinton years, and a lot of us know that bureaucrats reflexively cover their *sses.

Besides, sometimes people get flamed for no good reason at all. Take it in stride. That's life.

[Palladin]

When you're right, you're right. Give yourself a pat on the back.

I didn't see your posts on the shuttle disaster. I would have agreed with you. The minute I saw and heard Sean O'Keefe I said "There's a guy who's in major CYA mode. We're not going to get the truth from him."

Besides, he appeared so unprofessional that day....in a red golf shirt. The least he could've done was to put on a shirt and tie, out of respect for the astronauts who had just been incinerated due to his incompetence.

[Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh]

No. Just apologies, especially from those people who flamed me, insulted me, and totally discounted my opinions based on ignorant grounds.

Free Republic loses a lot of credibility when it's moderators close and DELETE posts from people who didnt cuss, didnt troll, didnt flame, didnt break a single rule in the posting policies, for the simple reason that their little mind can't handle and dont like what's being said.

I called the Bush-Gore election scandal, before anyone else.

I also called the Nasa scandal before anyone else.

And i did it right here on this forum.

And the moderators delete my posts LOL? The Freeper "veterans" blast me, insult me, call me names and totally discount my opinions?

Do you see what's wrong with this picture?

[Jhoffa_]

"I cited my experience as an attorney and the thousands and thousands of questions/answers I had experience in tense legal situations.

I was flamed over and over again. My registration date was cited to attack my opinion. My profession as a lawyer was cited to attack me personally and my opinion."

Oh my..

PS:

Hey, what's black and brown and looks great on an attorney?

[Thinkin' Gal]

My first post on this forum was in relation to the initial Nasa Press Conference after the horrible disaster.

And...

Remember the Bush-Gore election? I was the first person on this forum, or ANY forum for that matter, who posted a warning that Gore was going to attempt to selectively challenge vote tallies in heavily democratic areas, and that Gore might WIN the election by doing that.

Hmmm.

[tupac]

Ain't it great though? Don't let the bastards get you down.

[Chi-townChief]

Sounds like the boy has problems.

[TomServo]

Yeah, Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm is an understatement.

[bvw]

Stick around. Your trained gut sense was right. We have a lot of too-quick to the "abuse button" screaming ninnies around here some times. We need more folks like you -- with that intuition tuned by experience.

Truth backs you up, even when 400 falsifiers jump all over you. Have more faith in that.

Stick around, don' bear a grudge, and don't vainly complain. Bear with it.

You weren't the only one reamed by the pack mentality those days -- there were many, maybe most, a few who spoke and many scared to silence. You were bold, and I hope you can keep it up.

[libsrscum]

Bronco,

I didn't flame you, insult you or call you names. I'm sorry some did. Hang in there. I appreciate your input.

[clintonh8r]

Yeah, maybe that time warp is what's slowing FR down.

[Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh]

Poohbah, thanks for making my point.
"ambulance chasing scum" ???

I feel sad for you, and your small little world where your kicks come from attacking people and insulting them because you don't like their profession.

I happen to be one of the last remaining bulwarks between the government and the citizens, fighting hard day by day to protect our freedoms. I'm proud to be a lawyer - a son of the Constitution.

[mdittmar]

My first post on this forum was in relation to the initial Nasa Press Conference after the horrible disaster.

You know what? This isn't the first time that I have been personally attacked and flamed for showing up with an unpopular opinion or forecast. Remember the Bush-Gore election? I was the first person on this forum, or ANY forum for that matter, who posted a warning that Gore was going to attempt to selectively challenge vote tallies in heavily democratic areas, and that Gore might WIN the election by doing that.

[bvw]

I remember that thread, and he got busted because of the ninny packs running around hereabouts who do take a line and bark at any variance from it. He was clear in what he said and no malice to it.

[TomServo]

Hey - he's got "The Gift", too. ;-)