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Any Freeper Fishermen/Fisherladies Out There?
3-3-03 | sonofatpatcher2

Posted on 03/03/2003 6:00:01 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2

Any Freeper Fishermen/Fisherladies Out There?

Corsicana, Texas - As the weather slowly gets warmer, my fishing blood begins to warm, simmer then boil. I was wondering if anyone was like me in that they love to fish almost (or more) than talk Good Republican Politics.

Well, if so and if they are in North Texas, perhaps we can gather and wet hooks while raking the DemoRATS over the coals.


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Here is my last fishing report to the TEXAS FISHING FORUM:

Morning Guys and Gals,

I am well rested from my weekend trip to North Texas. I left Corsicana at 3:45 AM Saturday morning and after a traffic-free trip through Dallas, I arrived at the Lewisville Fishing Barge.

(Directions: I-35 East to the Hwy 407 Exit. Right from there across the RR Tracks to the 1st stop sign at Mills. Left there about a mile to the Park entrance on the right. Cost: $6 per person)

There were a few folks already there and more came in as the morning wore on. During my time there (5-11 AM) many crappie were caught, mostly too small ones-- But any fish caught is better than no fish caught! I landed only one keeper (just a bump over 10 inches), but they were having a on-barge-only crappie fishing tourney there and I saw a good 10 fish weighed for count while I was there. The largest I saw caught weighed 1.3 pounds by a fellow not in the tourney. A nice keeper.

My one keeper I gave to Bonnie, a pretty blonde fishing besides me with her husband. BTW Bonnie was leading the tourney when I left and I hope she won. (No, she didn't use my fish. Her plan, she said, was to cook it up with her other catches.)

I traveled on up to Denison for my Great-Uncle's 85th Birthday. It went off fine, lots of kinfolk turned out. Unk was delighted as was everyone else.

Saturday afternoon before the party, my cousin Louis drove out to Texoma. Still lots of ice/snow remains around, but roads/streets all clear. At Texoma Dam no generation and only two lone fishermen on OK side of the river and a party of 4 on the Texas side way south past the bait store. Did not see any action on either side during 30-minute stay. We then drove by Waterloo Lake in Denison. Four fishing, but no luck. (BTW, over 2 years, off and on, I have occasionally fished this little lake inside Denison city limits and have not caught, nor seen anyone catch anything. Has anyone?)

Louis and I then drove out to Loy Lake. The little park there is in terrible shape (broken picnic tables, etc) and very muddy. Yet it looks like it should be a prime crappie place once the weather dries up and it gets warmer. (Louis says algae is a problems during summer) So that may not be true unless one has a boat.

Sunday morning I went out to Texoma Dam. They were not generating and the river was real low. Chilly low 40s and smoky breath did nothing to lure me down the steep embankment to wet a hook. There were only two guys fishing and they gave it up shortly without any results.

I then decided to drive over to East Burns Run on the OK side. The lake was down about 3 or 4 feet and wind was nippy. I then re-crossed the dam and went to Eisenhower State Park for their fishing pier. The low surface made the pier look like a stork wading in the water. They have redone the planking and it looks great, no spaces between the planks over 1/4 inch. (Had they done that last year, I wouldn't have lost that two pound crappie through the huge cracks in the old boards!)

Anyway, there were some a few gulls and some ducks working the entrance bay of the marina, so I decided to wet a hook or two. I put out some minnows on bobbers and found the water amazingly clear-- clearest I ever seen it. I could see the minnows swimming 3 feet below my corks.

I made a few tosses of a red-black Frenzy along the lines of tires floating by the slips. Nothing. Tried black-silver and blue-silver Sassy Shads, but still bumpkis. Slight wind from north into dock kept pushing my corks under the pilings and my hands into my pockets. No bites either, but I almost caught a diving duck on a Sassy Shad cast. He came up from a dive almost under my lure.

Stopped about Noon as fingers would hardly bend and headed home for good rest and report.

Take care,
Danny Clay

BTW, if this is a duplicate post, tuff! };^)

1 posted on 03/03/2003 6:00:01 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2
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To: sonofatpatcher2
I like to fish but I don't like to bait the hook or touch the fish. And I don't like fish.
2 posted on 03/03/2003 6:02:11 AM PST by rabidralph (SAUROPOD Dreams in Burgundy and Gold.)
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To: rabidralph
???????????????????????????
3 posted on 03/03/2003 6:07:49 AM PST by BIOMAN
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To: sonofatpatcher2
Largemouth and hybrid man here.

I'm lucky enough to live in close proximity to Lake West Point, Lanier, and Eufala, which all host major tournaments every year.

Water temp. is still a little cool here for the spawn to be happening. And, my paintball habit has been cutting into my early spring fishing this year.

Mostly stick to soft plastics on carolina rigs and topwater baits.

4 posted on 03/03/2003 6:08:12 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen (Fish on!)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
UP here in the GREAT freezing north...I can hardly wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5 posted on 03/03/2003 6:08:44 AM PST by BIOMAN
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To: sonofatpatcher2
This weekend I put a dozen, cement block weigted, cedar trees on the ice of my pond. Great cover this spring if the ice ever melts.

Fishing is slow. Caught nothing this weekend. Maybe I should try chopping a hole in the ice. Top water lures did not entice any strikes above the ice.
6 posted on 03/03/2003 6:15:09 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: rabidralph
Re: I like to fish but I don't like to bait the hook or touch the fish. And I don't like fish.

So, you just like reeling in the suckers. That's okay, I do, too. But I have to do all the other crappy stuff myself.

Placed an ad last week:

Wanted: Good Woman

who can gut & clean fish, bait hook,
dig for worms, sane for minnows & shad,
wade out after lost lures, wash dog,
keep house, pay bills, cook real good,
agrees with my Good Republican Politics
and who has at least a 14-ft boat with
gasoline motor/trolling motor.
Please send photo of boat.

Ya' know, I haven't had one reply to my ad. Imagine that? (^:{

8 posted on 03/03/2003 6:18:42 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
I'm a fisherman from New Hampshire, moving to northern Virginia this summer. My son and I are looking forward to wetting a line out there. Any suggestions on fresh water and salt water?
9 posted on 03/03/2003 6:20:31 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: viligantcitizen
Re: ...my paintball habit has been cutting into my early spring fishing this year.

I tried that, but they told me 230 Gn Ball was verbotten! Bunch of wossies!

Went back to fishin' and cussin' Bill Clinton.

10 posted on 03/03/2003 6:22:25 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: sonofatpatcher2; poorman
Hubby poorman lives to get his boat out of winter storage and spend his weekends with a fishing rod in one hand and a beer in the other.

Lake Poygan and Lake Winnebago are his favorites.

What does he fish for? In his words: "Whatever's biting."
11 posted on 03/03/2003 6:24:19 AM PST by petuniasevan (The worst day fishing is better than the best day working)
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To: Bluntpoint
Re: Fishing is slow. Caught nothing this weekend. Maybe I should try chopping a hole in the ice. Top water lures did not entice any strikes above the ice.

Could not agree more, Blunt. That ice will wear down the hooks on your top water plugs.

12 posted on 03/03/2003 6:24:29 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: AllSmiles
My favorite fishing is for lake trout or salmon, either shore fishing or from a boat, on Lake Superior. Gut and gill the fish (and remove the head too)then charcoal grill over a Weber with a few hickory chips in the fire. Cut up a couple of oranges or lemon and squeeze over the fish. Flip the guy over at 20 minutes and apply orange juice or lemon again.
Serve with wild rice and a cold Leinenkugles.
13 posted on 03/03/2003 6:25:00 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: rabidralph
I used to raise laying hens.

I hated eggs.
14 posted on 03/03/2003 6:25:08 AM PST by petuniasevan (The worst day fishing is better than the best day working)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
Many of my bass appear to have concussions.
15 posted on 03/03/2003 6:25:28 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
"Maybe I should try chopping a hole in the ice."

No, you're doing it right- That ice layer will filter out the little 'throwbacks'.

16 posted on 03/03/2003 6:27:45 AM PST by Crowcreek
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To: AllSmiles
Re: Oh yeah. I like to fish. Salt water or fresh...

Got the best of both here in Corsicana. 25 miles southwest is Richland-Chambers that has Bass (All kinds), hybird stripers, crappie and cats. Ten miles down the road is Lake Fairfield that is stocked with freshwater Reds.

17 posted on 03/03/2003 6:27:49 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
"Wanted: Good woman."

I must be lucky because mine loves to fish, too.

18 posted on 03/03/2003 6:29:51 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen (Fish on!)
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To: petuniasevan
Re: What does he fish for? In his words: "Whatever's biting."

In my younger days, I used the same excuse to go bar hopping!

19 posted on 03/03/2003 6:30:26 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: viligantcitizen
Re: "Wanted: Good woman."
I must be lucky because mine loves to fish, too.

Say, she got a free weekend any time soon?

20 posted on 03/03/2003 6:33:06 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: Redleg Duke
Try the Potomac River. It is supposed to be one of the best bass fisheries in these parts. Also holds good catfish. Western Maryland has some good trout streams, but you have to search for them. The Shenandoah River also has some good holes. As for the Chesapeake, it is a matter of knowing what is in the bay at the particular time of year and what they like to eat. Stripers usually run from late Spring until late Fall. Also have blues, spanish mackerel, drum in the lower bay, perch, bass, some sharks in the lower bay, and an occasional manatee named Chessie.
21 posted on 03/03/2003 6:33:38 AM PST by CollegeRepublican
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To: Crowcreek
Plays hell with the plastic props on my trolling motor.
22 posted on 03/03/2003 6:34:22 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Re: My favorite fishing is for lake trout or salmon, either shore fishing or from a boat, on Lake Superior. Gut and gill the fish (and remove the head too)then charcoal grill over a Weber with a few hickory chips in the fire. Cut up a couple of oranges or lemon and squeeze over the fish. Flip the guy over at 20 minutes and apply orange juice or lemon again.
Serve with wild rice and a cold Leinenkugles.

Checking my bus schedules. BTW, will Lone Star Draft do?

23 posted on 03/03/2003 6:35:04 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: All
The Dallas Morning Snooze weather report says high of 67 on Tuesday leans me towards wetting some hooks on Tuesday at Fishermans Point inlets on Richland-Chambers. The Solar Tables gives the noontime hour as the major for the PM.

Think I'll try some minnows under corks in the three inlets at RC. If no luck, may try Fairfield for tilapia with some hominy. Hey, anyone know if cumming with corn meal would do any good on tilapia.

Anyone wants to go, let me know or meet me there. I'll be in the blue Camery.

24 posted on 03/03/2003 6:39:03 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: Bluntpoint
Try dropping your anchor. You'll get some real casting distance on that ice.
25 posted on 03/03/2003 6:40:26 AM PST by Crowcreek
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To: Bluntpoint
Re: Many of my bass appear to have concussions.

Well, you still got to clean 'em!

26 posted on 03/03/2003 6:41:04 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
Last time I cleaned fish, more than half died during the rinse cycle, none survived the dryer.
27 posted on 03/03/2003 6:44:42 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
"Last time I cleaned fish, more than half died during the rinse cycle, none survived the dryer."

Bwahahaha! Thanks...I needed that.

28 posted on 03/03/2003 6:46:32 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen (Fish on!)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
"Hey, anyone know if cumming with corn meal would do any good on tilapia."

Yuck!!!

Porn fishing!!!!

Did you mean chumming?

29 posted on 03/03/2003 6:46:35 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: viligantcitizen
My husband and I fish Lake Eufaula fairly regularly for crappie, brim, and bass as we live about 30 minutes to the south. He likes Lake Seminole as well, but after seeing numerous alligators nearly as long as our boat, I'm not comfortable enough to go anymore.

Around 20 years ago, I fished Lake West Point a few times. I believe the lake hadn't been there very long. On one occasion, the water was down several feet and we had to navigate around the many trees that had been topped. On my next visit the water was up and those stumps were no longer visable but still present around a foot under the water line. Not a place I'd want to dive in to.
30 posted on 03/03/2003 6:46:40 AM PST by Quilla
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To: sonofatpatcher2
"Say, she got a free weekend any time soon?"

Bwahaha. The only bad thing about taking her is the rare occasion she catches more than me.

31 posted on 03/03/2003 6:47:57 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen (Fish on!)
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To: Bluntpoint
Re: Last time I cleaned fish, more than half died during the rinse cycle, none survived the dryer.

Just use toilet paper next time, Blount. More will live that way.

32 posted on 03/03/2003 6:48:15 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: Quilla
West Point is definately not a skiing lake. It is full of standing timber, good for fishing, bad for skiing.

What's really hairy is navigating West Point at night.

33 posted on 03/03/2003 6:50:15 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen (Fish on!)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
"Just use toilet paper next time, Blount. More will live that way."

So you want me to wipe my "bass" with toliet paper?


34 posted on 03/03/2003 6:50:35 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: sonofatpatcher2
I don't know if this really counts, but we recently bought a place in rural Tennessee with a small pond stocked with bluegill and, allegedly, catfish. I haven't been fishing much since I was a kid, but recently my 10-year-old daughter and I have been fishing frequently in that pond and almost always can get a little bluegill within minutes. We're still waiting for our first catfish.

I'm blessed to be living just down the road from a guy who runs The Catfish Supply Company so I get all my fishing gear from him and he gives out free advice. It's been fun and I'm looking forward to more fishing.

I'm thinking of either expanding that pond or putting in a second pond. I have a lot to learn about this sort of thing. I did add a few grass carp and about 10 little catfish to the one pond we've got which is about 1500 to 2000 sq. ft. on the surface. Does anyone have a good source of information on these ponds?

35 posted on 03/03/2003 6:54:46 AM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Mr. Mulliner
http://pondboss.com/

Great source about ponds. Read "Ask the Pond Boss forum."
36 posted on 03/03/2003 6:56:48 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
Re: "Hey, anyone know if cumming with corn meal would do any good on tilapia."
Yuck!!!
Porn fishing!!!!
Did you mean chumming?

ROITFL... You got me good, Blount! Who says typos cain't be fun?

...and, NO, that was not a Freuden Slip! Ay least I hope not!!!!!

37 posted on 03/03/2003 7:00:00 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: Bluntpoint
Re: So you want me to wipe my "bass" with toliet paper?

Yes, unless you have a corncobb handy.

38 posted on 03/03/2003 7:02:07 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
We've lived at the Lake of the Ozarks in Missouri for the past couple of years so its been a while since I had the "north shore treat." I like the striper bass stocked in this lake and I have developed a taste for crappies caught from our dock. Sadly, no Leiney's down here.
39 posted on 03/03/2003 7:13:12 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Just got an e-mail from a buddie of mine. I've posted it here if any of you have comments:

This is to my "...interested fishing buddies of mine from Missouri to Texas who are concerned as well about the future of their favorite species, the muskie and striper. The subject of introducing supplement forage bases for their particular specie with the long-term hope of developing a trophy fishery has long been a question in all of our minds.

What do you know about blueback herring? We know they are in the Alosid family with alewife, hickory and American shad. I also know they have been accidentally introduced into some southern tier reservoirs with good, measurable results on certain species and not so good on others.

We're in a off and on again debate here in Texas about bringing Lake Texoma (approx. 90,000 surface acres of water) back to trophy (striper) status and what it would take to get it there and maintain it. As you may already know, stripers spawn successfully in Texoma due to the high salinity in the Red River.

Consequently, there are several kazillion small stripers and no minimum length limit. However, there is an upper length limit of 20"; that is of the 10-fish per person per day limit, only two of those fish can be 20" or over. Their main forage are threadfin and gizzard shad.

We were hoping to find someone like yourself from the eastern U.S. who might have had some exposure to studies that have been done using Alosids as forage and the pluses/minuses associated with it. We know they are not only plankton eaters but fish egg eaters as well but their spawning cycle is at a different time than the esox (muskellunge) and striper (morone?), so that may not present a problem like occurs with the northern pike and muskellunge spawning cycles being so close together.

Texoma does have a population of largemouth bass and the smallmouth fishery is coming of age. Blue catfish and white bass are abundant as well. Walleyes were stocked many, many years ago but never really established themselves. I was curious to get an eastern opinion on the blueback specifically. Studies that I've read concerning the trophy striper fishery on the Colorado River (Lake Mohave) indicate their main forage is carp (high protein) and ideal 53-58 degree water temps. Those kind of temps are hard to find on Texoma during the months of July thru September. We were curious and since I had your e-mail address anyway, I thought I'd ask. I don't know if Bernie Dowler might shed some light or not or if maybe you might have a good contact in the Maryland to South Carolina corridor or not.

Thanks for any assistance you can provide in that direction.

Best Regards, Jim"

Anyone who has comments, I will forward on to Jim.

40 posted on 03/03/2003 7:21:12 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: All
Just got an e-mail from a buddie of mine. I've posted it here if any of you have comments:

This is to my "...interested fishing buddies of mine from Missouri to Texas who are concerned as well about the future of their favorite species, the muskie and striper. The subject of introducing supplement forage bases for their particular specie with the long-term hope of developing a trophy fishery has long been a question in all of our minds.

What do you know about blueback herring? We know they are in the Alosid family with alewife, hickory and American shad. I also know they have been accidentally introduced into some southern tier reservoirs with good, measurable results on certain species and not so good on others.

We're in a off and on again debate here in Texas about bringing Lake Texoma (approx. 90,000 surface acres of water) back to trophy (striper) status and what it would take to get it there and maintain it. As you may already know, stripers spawn successfully in Texoma due to the high salinity in the Red River.

Consequently, there are several kazillion small stripers and no minimum length limit. However, there is an upper length limit of 20"; that is of the 10-fish per person per day limit, only two of those fish can be 20" or over. Their main forage are threadfin and gizzard shad.

We were hoping to find someone like yourself from the eastern U.S. who might have had some exposure to studies that have been done using Alosids as forage and the pluses/minuses associated with it. We know they are not only plankton eaters but fish egg eaters as well but their spawning cycle is at a different time than the esox (muskellunge) and striper (morone?), so that may not present a problem like occurs with the northern pike and muskellunge spawning cycles being so close together.

Texoma does have a population of largemouth bass and the smallmouth fishery is coming of age. Blue catfish and white bass are abundant as well. Walleyes were stocked many, many years ago but never really established themselves. I was curious to get an eastern opinion on the blueback specifically. Studies that I've read concerning the trophy striper fishery on the Colorado River (Lake Mohave) indicate their main forage is carp (high protein) and ideal 53-58 degree water temps. Those kind of temps are hard to find on Texoma during the months of July thru September. We were curious and since I had your e-mail address anyway, I thought I'd ask. I don't know if Bernie Dowler might shed some light or not or if maybe you might have a good contact in the Maryland to South Carolina corridor or not.

Thanks for any assistance you can provide in that direction.

Best Regards, Jim"

Anyone who has comments, I will forward on to Jim.

41 posted on 03/03/2003 7:21:49 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
I don't have the experience to say if introducing a new shad species would be a good idea or not. This Lake is sort of an artificial fishery to begin with, but the shad I've netted for striper fishing always seem plentiful. Perhaps if I practiced a little more with the net I'd get better at this, but I usually get enough to have plenty of bait in a five gallon bucket. There seems to be a big shad die-off going on right now back in our cove. We've had some ice this winter and it could be these little fish were trapped without oxygen. Seagulls are having a harvest so they will be cleaned up soon.
42 posted on 03/03/2003 7:28:16 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: StriperSniper
FYI
43 posted on 03/03/2003 7:44:49 AM PST by Cagey
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To: Bluntpoint
Excellent! Thanks for that link.
44 posted on 03/03/2003 7:47:43 AM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Mr. Mulliner; sonofatpatcher2
"We're still waiting for our first catfish."

Take one of those small bluegills you catch, cut one fin off, then put it on a hook. Big cats LOVE wounded bream.

45 posted on 03/03/2003 8:11:00 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen (Fish on!)
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To: CollegeRepublican
Thanks, much!
46 posted on 03/03/2003 8:12:55 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: viligantcitizen
Hmmmm...I'll have to try that. I've got one of the little guys cut up in the freezer for future use as bait, but I hadn't thought of using a live one as bait.
47 posted on 03/03/2003 9:43:47 AM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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To: AllSmiles
Re: I travel to hunt and fish too, twice a year at least. Often three times a year.

If you're down Corsicana, Texas (56 miles south of Dallas on I-45) way, give me shout. I won't guarntee any fish, but we'll wet some hooks!

49 posted on 03/03/2003 1:00:46 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Re: I don't have the experience to say if introducing a new shad species would be a good idea or not...

Thanks for the comment, I passed it on to Jim.

50 posted on 03/03/2003 1:07:51 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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