An opposing view: Descendant of black Confederate soldier speaks at museum

Thomasville Times-Enterprise ^ | 24 Feb 2004 | Mark Lastinger

[stainlessbanner]

Meet Nelson Winbush

[cyborg]

Other than the Passion film, I can't think of anything that makes a lib more angry than a black confederate soldier!

[4CJ]

Don't be dumb....don't be dumb...don't be dumb... OK Got it!

;o)

[4CJ]

I would greatly appreciate it if you would add me to your Ping list.....

Actually I don't have one - I seldom post threads. But I will make remember you in the future.

[4CJ]

Patty Hearst fought for the SLA.

Sherman [*spit*], Sheridan, Butler and Grant fought for the Union.

[wtc911]

Your statement that one of the first slave owners in America was black leads me to wonder....What was his name? Where did he live? What did he do? How did he get here, immigate from Africa? I'm sure you have the answers and I'm all ears.

[Lee Heggy]

Finally!!! There are admittedly far too few who have taken the time and have the whit to properly study the Civil War and it's causes and participants. I have been re-ennacting at living history events for over fifteen years and we do try to get it right. There are even three black men in our unit that participate in roles that are taken from personal diaries and letters of their ancestors who were on one side or the other. It's never an issue with us if we are galvanised into a confederate outfit or into a Union one although it does seem that there are almost always more rebs than yanks. The fact is that there were many black people on both sides in the war and their story isn't told often enough.

[varina davis]

I know Mr. Winbush and have heard him speak several times. Bless his heart.

[wtc911]

It's called the Stockholm syndrome, identifying with one's oppressor. It showed itself again right after 911 with the otherwise inexplicable rise in conversions to islam among mostly white, liberal women.

[4CJ]

Meet Nelson Winbush

Mr. Winbush (images from the Sierra Times) and his grandfather

[stainlessbanner]

Anthony Johnson, Northampton County, VA

[dwills]

thanks for injecting some sanity into this thread

the rebs were not American heroes

[wtc911]

Interesting, how did he get here himself?

[dwills]

right on, reb apologists shouldn't prey on this man's madness

who wouldn't deny the shame of one's grandfather having been a holocaust collaborator?

[stainlessbanner]

One of the original 20 indentured servants brought to Jamestown.

[4CJ]

I have been re-ennacting at living history events for over fifteen years and we do try to get it right. There are even three black men in our unit that participate in roles that are taken from personal diaries and letters of their ancestors who were on one side or the other.

Kudos to you all - our ancestors, of either side, need to be remembered honestly and proudly.

[4CJ]

I know Mr. Winbush and have heard him speak several times. Bless his heart.

I would have loved to hear him speak of his grandfather. I will try to find out more about the meeting if possible.

[lentulusgracchus]

who wouldn't deny the shame of one's grandfather having been a holocaust collaborator?

What, your grandfather was in the SS? Hang your head.

Oh, wait, this is America -- we don't do "taint of blood".

Never mind.

[CurlyBill]

Ummmm.... the Emancipation Proclamation was not signed until after the start of the war. It was never an issue until Europe threatened to get involved. It was done more as a political move to keep Europe than anything. Union General Sherman supported slavery, while Robert E. Lee called it evil. Slavery was a developed issue ... Many have been so indoctrinated into template of political correctness that they cannot bring themselves to think straight on this subject. Don't worry, speech is still free here!

Funny thing is, many people say that it is the south that is still fighting the war, whereas it is the "northerners" who are trying to outlaw any remembrance of the south, in effect attempting to erase its existence. Who is still fighting the war??

[lentulusgracchus]

Years ago, I visited the Cyclorama in Atlanta. I did not know much, but was beginning my life long interest in the War Between the States. I asked a tour guide if any blacks had fought for the Confederacy.

Next time I'm in Atlanta, I'm going to drop by the Cyclorama again (it having been restored since I saw it), just so I can ask your tour guide the same question -- knowing the answer.

Yes, mother, I'm a naughty boy.