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To: wtc911
right on, reb apologists shouldn't prey on this man's madness

who wouldn't deny the shame of one's grandfather having been a holocaust collaborator?
34 posted on 02/25/2004 1:11:39 PM PST by dwills
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To: dwills
who wouldn't deny the shame of one's grandfather having been a holocaust collaborator?

What, your grandfather was in the SS? Hang your head.

Oh, wait, this is America -- we don't do "taint of blood".

Never mind.

38 posted on 02/25/2004 4:29:21 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: dwills
Ummmm.... the Emancipation Proclamation was not signed until after the start of the war. It was never an issue until Europe threatened to get involved. It was done more as a political move to keep Europe than anything. Union General Sherman supported slavery, while Robert E. Lee called it evil. Slavery was a developed issue ... Many have been so indoctrinated into template of political correctness that they cannot bring themselves to think straight on this subject. Don't worry, speech is still free here!

Funny thing is, many people say that it is the south that is still fighting the war, whereas it is the "northerners" who are trying to outlaw any remembrance of the south, in effect attempting to erase its existence. Who is still fighting the war??

39 posted on 02/25/2004 4:39:25 PM PST by CurlyBill (Voter fraud is one of the primary campaign strategies of the Democrats!!!!)
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To: dwills
who wouldn't deny the shame of one's grandfather having been a holocaust collaborator?

Uhhh... Speak into my good ear?

45 posted on 02/25/2004 6:33:12 PM PST by Gianni (Everyone's a closet economist.)
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To: dwills
Of course, as we all know, no northerner ever owned any
slave, no yankee ever traded in slaves, at least that's
the way history will be FURTHER rewritten within a few
years.
81 posted on 02/26/2004 10:42:21 AM PST by Twinkie
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To: dwills
His madness...What madness? He is telling HIS-story from the lips of his grandfather, You may not like his version because it doesn't fit your revisionist history.
98 posted on 02/26/2004 1:22:23 PM PST by Armed Civilian ("Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.")
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To: dwills
Hey, watch yur mouth. You are speaking about a veteran of the Korean War, and one whom I doubt is given to telling lies. He isn't mad, its all you damnYankee swine who've destroyed what our Founders gave us - true freedom of self-determination.

"I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground that 'all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states or to the people.' To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress, is to take possession of a boundless field of power, not longer susceptible of any definition." --Thomas Jefferson

"Were we directed from Washington when to sow, and when to reap, we should soon want bread." --Thomas Jefferson

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state." --Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

"The State governments possess inherent advantages, which will ever give them an influence and ascendancy over the National Government, and will for ever preclude the possibility of federal encroachments. That their liberties, indeed, can be subverted by the federal head, is repugnant to every rule of political calculation." --Alexander Hamilton

"...[T]he States will retain, under the proposed Constitution, a very extensive portion of active sovereignty..." --James Madison, Federalist No. 45

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just (meaning limited) powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." -The Declaration of Independence (The cornerstone of American Ideology)

"It doesn't take a great legal mind nor a genius to understand the meaning of the 2nd amendment. It only takes the ability to read what our forefathers said the meaning is by reading their words in the Federalist papers and other documents, and a modicum of common sense. If you believe what the people who would take your rights from you say, then you are no better than a sheep who needs a shepherd to lead you around and tell you what you need and what's best for you. If you are one of these folks, don't bother trying to understand the obvious, because it will only confuse you." -Stan Jordan
Insert Constitution and Bill of Rights where it says 2nd Amendment.

Anything else you need to know Bunky? I think the Founders' stated it quite clearly, and Lincoln disregarded what they intended.

157 posted on 02/27/2004 1:28:14 PM PST by Colt .45 (Cold War, Vietnam Era, Desert Storm Veteran - Pride in my Southern Ancestry!)
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To: dwills
who wouldn't deny the shame of being as historically illiterate as you evidently are???

our war was for FREEDOM.

the unionists fought to keep us from having LIBERTY.<P.free dixie,sw

1,060 posted on 03/20/2004 9:39:11 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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