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Not so ‘Free Republic’: The Shot Heard Around the Net
The Conservative Voice ^ | Feb 11, 2005 | by William Gheen, President, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC

Posted on 02/11/2005 10:55:36 AM PST by Jim Robinson

The shot heard around the Internet has been fired on FreeRepublic.com The owner Jim Robinson and his moderators have launched a sniper style purge against members that disagree with the President’s ‘guest worker’ amnesty or support more control of illegal immigration. Free Republic is an amazing tool for those looking for a good debate and news from around the country.

The problem for the administration of the site is that their creation is allowing the participants to learn that the Bush immigration record and plans are shockingly out of line with the views of most conservatives. The management’s answer to this conflict between the majority of conservatives and the influence of the White House on their Web site has become electronic executions and censorship.

Members and readers of Free Republic would be surprised to know that many members of their community have fallen silent on the discussions about illegal immigration lately because free speech is an illusion on FR.com. They are silent because they have been banned from the Web site without warning, cause, or explanation in most cases. For weeks the moderators have been suspending and banning new members that chimed in quickly on the immigration debates.

Now this trend has broadened as the first groups of long-term users were suspended or banned this past week. Although Robinson and his staff removed many members of the Free Republic community in the first few days of the purge, those that religiously support President Bush’s immigration plan, open borders and approve of public benefits for illegal aliens remain on the forum. Those that were banned were the members that wanted more done to control illegal immigration and a strict observance to the President’s Oath of Office.


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"By taking sides with the open borders lobby, Jim Robinson has taken a position that is at odds with more than 80 percent of the Free Republic community and the majority of conservatives in America. The fact he is using tactics his own users would find unethical to censor articles and silence opposition with banishments and intimidation is of great concern to all of us as Americans. New members of Free Republic and those that are not aware of Robinson’s covert attempts to stifle debate should be warned."

"Free Republic participants have documented censorship of material from or mention of groups like VDARE.com, Rense.com, American Patrol, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, 9/11 Families for a Secure America, ETHER ZONE, News with Views, author Frosty Woolridge, Save Our State, the Minuteman Project and others."

"Others" referring to sites like stormfront.org, et al.

That's right. I simply do not wish to be associated with these sites. I'm sure that anyone who wishes to associate with these people already knows where to find them. I don't want it on FR.

I also want nothing to do with vigilantism so that rules out the so-called minuteman project. I'm not going to make a big deal out of it, I'll simply continue revoking the posting privileges of those who post from these sites or attempt to promote vigilantism on FR.

Also, there are some posters who are using the illegal immigration issue to insult and or viciously attack other posters on this forum. These people should not be surprised or act innocent when they lose their posting privileges. Continued posting of racism, personal attacks, insults, profanity, etc, will lead to a sudden loss of posting privileges (with or without warning or explanation). Don't bother writing.

Final note: I do NOT support open borders or illegal immigration. Sincerely doubt there are many on this forum who do.

1 posted on 02/11/2005 10:55:41 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

I haven't been purged yet, and I oppose it vehemently. So either you've not been thorough, or they're full of Hillary-speak.


2 posted on 02/11/2005 10:57:20 AM PST by theDentist (Jerry Springer: PBS for White Trash)
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To: Jim Robinson

I've been quite solidly opposed to illegal immigration... come 'n get me, copper!


3 posted on 02/11/2005 10:57:34 AM PST by thoughtomator (reporting from Cylon-occupied Caprica)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks Jim.


4 posted on 02/11/2005 10:57:40 AM PST by JimWforBush
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank the Lord!!!

BTTT!!


5 posted on 02/11/2005 10:57:46 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Ohio State: The 2005 NCAA Football champions....assuming they arent on probation!!!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Okay by me...

RD


6 posted on 02/11/2005 10:57:59 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: Jim Robinson

Last but not least...

THIS IS YOUR WEB SITE - YOU CAN DO AS YOU DARN WELL PLEASE!!

God Bless you JimRob for this site!


7 posted on 02/11/2005 10:58:00 AM PST by Mr. K (this space for rent)
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To: Jim Robinson

We're behind ya JR . . .


8 posted on 02/11/2005 10:58:04 AM PST by bored at work (Barack Obama . . . Iraq Osama . . . ?)
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9 posted on 02/11/2005 10:58:14 AM PST by stainlessbanner (Don't mess with old guys wearing overhauls.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Rock on, Jim.


10 posted on 02/11/2005 10:58:20 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (This is my tagline.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Sincerely doubt there are many on this forum who do.

Don't bet money on that.

11 posted on 02/11/2005 10:58:49 AM PST by StoneColdGOP (Warning: Not being an open-borders RINO can be dangerous to your FR health.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Gosh, Jim, I thought we were all Bushbots here. /sarcasm


12 posted on 02/11/2005 10:58:54 AM PST by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: Jim Robinson

Hey, I'm still a member - if I'm still here Jom must be super tolerant.


13 posted on 02/11/2005 10:59:16 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Jim Robinson

We stand behind you 100%!


14 posted on 02/11/2005 10:59:18 AM PST by areafiftyone (The Democrat's Mind: The Hamster's dead but the wheel's still spinning!)
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To: Jim Robinson
free speech is an illusion on FR.com

Free speech isn't even considered on here because this is a PRIVATELY-OWNED site. When will these nimrods understand this?

15 posted on 02/11/2005 11:00:03 AM PST by TheBigB ("Official Keeper of the FR Eye Candy" ~Title bestowed by SirLurkedalot)
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To: theDentist

Have always been tolerant of my opposing views.....don't know where this guy is coming from


16 posted on 02/11/2005 11:00:14 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: Jim Robinson

Oh, good. Jim posted it. I thought I was going to have to read quick before it got zotted :)


17 posted on 02/11/2005 11:00:42 AM PST by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well we do have a large open borders contingent mostly libertarians and Wall Street Journal editoral page backers but there are also many many more like me who are not pro-open borders or amnesty under any name.

So like TheDentist said, they are full of BullClinton.

18 posted on 02/11/2005 11:00:44 AM PST by NeoCaveman (6 Days till CPAC)
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To: theDentist
So either you've not been thorough, or they're full of Hillary-speak.

It is apparent you have a reading/comprehension problem. He didn't say that he supported illegal immigration. He said he opposed it. However, he would not allow posts that call for things like vigilantism or are racist on their face.

Are you saying those are things you support?

19 posted on 02/11/2005 11:01:11 AM PST by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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To: Jim Robinson; Grampa Dave
"Final note: I do NOT support open borders or illegal immigration. Sincerely doubt there are many on this forum who do."

I agree with you 100 percent. We were talking on another thread the other day about trollish behavioral patterns the other day. One of the things that came up were those individuals who do exactly what we're seeing here. They post nasty stuff, get it pulled, and then whine that you're systematically censoring their right to free speech.

Not all who claim to be conservatives really are. Some are just trollish infiltrators, drunk on their own cleverness.

20 posted on 02/11/2005 11:01:15 AM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: Destro; Lazamataz

Between the two of you, living proof of FR's tolerance!


21 posted on 02/11/2005 11:01:16 AM PST by thoughtomator (reporting from Cylon-occupied Caprica)
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm gonna turn myself in.

I have commited thoughtcrimes.

22 posted on 02/11/2005 11:01:17 AM PST by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim
I don't see what this author is seeing. This subject is treated like other subjects that split our base, a lot of hot and heavy debate. Just because we aren't in lockstep with each other doesn't prove any sort of sniper censorship. Sounds like someone feels if they are disagreed with they are being oppressed-repressed or some other pressed.
23 posted on 02/11/2005 11:01:22 AM PST by mnehring (cBS- Fourth Column, Fifth Estate, Disinformers)
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To: Jim Robinson

Websites like this are privately owned. It's like being in someone's house. They get to make the rules. Simple as that.


24 posted on 02/11/2005 11:01:34 AM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. was too strong."-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim,

I have promoted Free Republic to all my friends as the premier news source on the web for conservatives. The main reason that I give urging them to join is that all the discussions of current events, etc. are extrememly intelligent and well thought out. Thank you for keeping it that way. Your moderators and yourself have done a magnificent job of controlling a VAST number of members with varying ideas of appropriateness. Once again - great job!!

Chip


25 posted on 02/11/2005 11:01:41 AM PST by lnbchip
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To: Jim Robinson

This "conservatives" from "Conservative Voice" have a lot to learn about freedom if they think it means they can go squat on someone else's forum and say whatever they feel like on someone else's dime.


26 posted on 02/11/2005 11:01:41 AM PST by PianoMan (and now back to practicing)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Radix; Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; LaDivaLoca; Fawnn; bentfeather; ...

Open borders and illegal immigration ping.....


27 posted on 02/11/2005 11:02:18 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 ("I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for," - Howard Dean 01/29/2005)
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bookmark bump


28 posted on 02/11/2005 11:02:22 AM PST by nutmeg (democRATs = The Party of NO)
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To: Phsstpok

Did you not read the 'Hillary-speak' part?


29 posted on 02/11/2005 11:02:28 AM PST by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: Jim Robinson

How dare you purge people from your own site! What gall! I don't know how you sleep at night. Your ancestors must be spinning in their graves. Don't you know that there are little children in China that can't go online? And yet you purge away as if you own the ... wait, you do own it. Sorry, my bad :>)


30 posted on 02/11/2005 11:02:41 AM PST by irishtenor (If stupidity were painful, the Democrats would NEED paid health care...)
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To: Jim Robinson
God bless you and FR. I love it here.
31 posted on 02/11/2005 11:03:08 AM PST by retrokitten (By Grabthar's hammer, by the sons of Worvan, you shall be avenged.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Geez, Jim, I almost went off on you! When I started reading this tripe, I immediately got ready to reply to the poster not to let the door hit him you-know-where, etc. I'm so damn TIRED of people coming here whining how they don't like it here anymore. Get the hell out then! Geez Louise, it's not that hard to understand. Jim invites us into his livingroom for a political discussion. If someone misbehaves and takes a dump in the living room, they deserve to be booted.

</ rant>


32 posted on 02/11/2005 11:03:18 AM PST by Bush_Democrat (Ex-Democrat since 2001)
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To: Jim Robinson

At the extreme end of both the left and right are those who can't or won't see the difference between illegal hispanics and true Americans of hispanic heritage. There is no room here for either, in my opinion.


33 posted on 02/11/2005 11:03:24 AM PST by hispanarepublicana (- Miss Free Republic High School-198?)
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To: StoneColdGOP

Damm, this must be a pretty inefficient purge if you're still here! Or me, for that matter...

I suspect the flame war loving Clymers have gotten Zotted, but those that manage to (mostly) avoid whizzing into the punch bowl are still here.

Rock on, Garth!


34 posted on 02/11/2005 11:04:14 AM PST by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: Michael Barnes

testing....


35 posted on 02/11/2005 11:04:56 AM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: Jim Robinson
Your site, your rules.

I'm cool with that.
:-)
36 posted on 02/11/2005 11:05:06 AM PST by secret garden (Go Spurs Go!)
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To: StoneColdGOP

Your tagline is pathetic.


37 posted on 02/11/2005 11:05:15 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Jim Robinson
In my opinion, President Bush's proposals to deal with illegal immigration are dreadfully misguided and deserve a speedy defeat.

I am confident that the above statement will not affect my posting status on FR.

38 posted on 02/11/2005 11:05:33 AM PST by Uncle Fud
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To: Jim Robinson
Continued posting of racism, personal attacks, insults, profanity, etc



I can't understand why people can't voice their opinion without doing the above...I've have always expressed my views about our immigration problem (I live in Texas 'nuff said)and have never had a problem on FR. I think people confuse attacks with debate. A good debate always keep us sharp, an attack is ignorance.
39 posted on 02/11/2005 11:05:48 AM PST by PaulaB (Boxer/Kerry-Prime Example Of Why Liberals Can't Lead This Country)
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To: Mears

bump


40 posted on 02/11/2005 11:05:51 AM PST by Mears ("Call me irresponsible")
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To: Jim Robinson

News to me.

Congratulations on becoming a media celebrity (again) !!


41 posted on 02/11/2005 11:05:53 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Jim Robinson

I dissagree with the president on this one but have yet to be purged. Should I prepare my opus?


42 posted on 02/11/2005 11:05:57 AM PST by cripplecreek (they call me tater.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I see lots of frepers opposed to amnesty here. Noone is getting 'purged' unless they break the rules some other way.


43 posted on 02/11/2005 11:06:05 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bush is just trying to lock in the Hispanic voting block. It's all a show and the Republicans are set to defeat anything he proposes on Illegal (slave labor) Amnesty.

Relax.

Thanks to Jim for keeping the ignorant racist sites off of here.


44 posted on 02/11/2005 11:06:10 AM PST by Seth Monroe
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To: Jim Robinson

Great site and you do a very good job at maintaining it. Thank you.

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com


45 posted on 02/11/2005 11:06:11 AM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (The 51st state is right around the corner.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks for all that you do, this is still the greatest forum on the net.

Regards,Axel.

46 posted on 02/11/2005 11:06:23 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: Jim Robinson
Some folks think every day it's silly thread day.

This is your place, keep it as clean as you wish!

47 posted on 02/11/2005 11:06:35 AM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Considering that I have expressed opposition to such Bushbot sacred cows as unrestricted free-trade, amnesty for illegal aliens, and offshoring, and am still here posting, I have no idea what this guy is talking about.


48 posted on 02/11/2005 11:07:08 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: Jim Robinson
Well said!
49 posted on 02/11/2005 11:07:13 AM PST by blues_guitarist (Black conservatives arise!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well said, JR.

I'm vehemently against open borders and illegals, and I'm very much still here.


50 posted on 02/11/2005 11:07:13 AM PST by meema
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