MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE

Me. | 29MARCH05 | Long Cut

[annyokie]

It's a good thing he has a big freezer. This whole fiasco at FR could take months to calm down.

[the Deejay]

Las Vegas.....hunkered down in
the trenches.....til this case
blows over....& it's safe to
come out.

[Drango]

Now that Jesse Jackson is lecturing us on morality, I'm changing my views 180% (NOT)

[Long Cut]

Boilermakers!

[hobbes1]

We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner

Okay....I'll play along.

First, definitions. Nazisism--> Engaging in, and supporting conduct, and programs enacted by Third Reich. Let us be clear on that, because THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM ASKING

1. How, is what George Greer doing, any different, except in scale than what Eichmann did? They Both after all, claimed to be following the Law....(Without Conscience or morality).

2. I thought conservatives were disdainful of Judicial Activism, which is what this turned into when Whittemore decided to pretend that Congress' Teri's Law did not exist. (The merits of Congress doing what they did is a separate matter.)

Note from the dissent.

WILSON, Circuit Judge, dissenting:

I strongly dissent from the majority’s decision to deny the request for an

injunction pursuant to the All Writs Act and the request for a preliminary

injunction. First, Plaintiffs have demonstrated their entitlement to a preliminary

injunction. Second, the denial of Plaintiffs’ request for an injunction frustrates

Congress’s intent, which is to maintain the status quo by keeping Theresa Schiavo

alive until the federal courts have a new and adequate opportunity to consider the

constitutional issues raised by Plaintiffs. The entire purpose for the statute was to

give the federal courts an opportunity to consider the merits of Plaintiffs’

constitutional claims with a fresh set of eyes. Denial of Plaintiffs’ petition cuts

sharply against that intent, which is evident to me from the language of the statute,

as well as the swift and unprecedented manner of its enactment. Theresa Schiavo’s

death, which is imminent, effectively ends the litigation without a fair opportunity

to fully consider the merits of Plaintiffs’ constitutional claims......

[Indy Pendance]

Reading comprehension issues.

[thoughtomator]

I read Prager's column and it says nothing of the sort. No one is calling you murderers. However, it is correct to say that you are justifying murder.

[Gabz]

sure thing!!!

I remembered the pitchers - I'll get the shot glasses!

[the Deejay]

You have snow over your way?

If not, I'll be over....

Snow is a 4-letter word to me.....I'm in Las Vegas.

[BigSkyFreeper]

It's a good thing he has a big freezer. This whole fiasco at FR could take months to calm down.

LOL

[annyokie]

You should have enough shot glasses for all with your cool collection of them!

[BigSkyFreeper]

No snow now, at least around the house and yard. Most of it's gone. The only snow left is whatever is piled up in the shade. :)

[Chad Fairbanks]

This thread is an exercise in dogmatically declaring your own position to be correct, rejecting out of hand any argument that might be made to the contrary.

Well, you participate in several threads where that is true also, but I don't see ya complaining on those... Perhaps you dislike alternative viewpoints?

The name calling already on this thread is proof that this coalition of yours is anything but what you claim it to be.

By name-calling, I guess you mean in post #2 where YOU called names, and had it pulled, or were you referring to something else?

[Finger Monkey]

Yeah, I'm not into WT either, are the kegs Red Stripe?

[annyokie]

; )

[Peach]

Ella, I had some nice talks with people last night; even people who didn't think we should ever remove a feeding tube from anyone under any circumstances.

I heard a man call on the radio the other day who was disabled and was worried that he and other disabled people would be next.

He was serious and frightened and alone. And my heart just wrenched for him.

I understand the emotions govering this, on both sides. When I first started investigating this, my husband, who knows all too well how opinionated I am, was shocked that for the first time in 25 years, I didn't have a strong opinion either way. I just didn't want to see FR become a dumping ground of conspiracy theories.

But you know, this country has such a history of valuing life. All life. Remember the little girl who fell in the well years ago? I think people lost their lives saving her. We do so much to save people in this country. More than any other country on earth.

I don't want us to develop a policy where we discard people. But I think we should have the absolute right to self determination and decide how we are going to live and how we are going to die.

And so I don't like Congress getting involved because sure as shootin', they will pass something hastily without having a full conversation with their constituents, and something will get passed that will take some right away from someone somewhere. They always muck stuff up.

I want my husband to decide this for me with the advice of doctors. Not Congress. Not anyone else.

But when I hear stories about how some people are frightened they will be next and think for a moment that a family in America is truly concerned that "they" might be coming for them next like that man on the radio, my heart bleeds.

And our leaders aren't doing a good job discussing this issue. I think they are frightened. It's a big issue.

But we all need to keep talking with each other and not AT each other and name calling, etc. I'm not pro death and most of the freepers are not pro government interference or endorsing anarchy or violence, I'm sure.

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

So is it also uncivilized to compare the Liberals' proposals to those of the USSR, and point to the horrors that are the inevitable result of those policies?

Only if it makes the Grave Dancers Union uncomfortable.

[mercy]

Not his column ... his show which is on now.

So every time the tube is pulled today, estimated to be in the low hundreds, it is a murder?

I think that is an absurd contention.

[Indy Pendance]

It's not the case, it's others calling freepers nazi's, the civility of discussion has been pretty much been absent throughout this story. If someone asks a reasonable question for verification, posts something that is not the prevailing thought, they are immediately labeled a nazi and pro-death ghoul, which is for most of us, not the case at all. I've pretty much refrained from posting my position on this because most of you would be shocked. So, I'm labeled satan's spawn because I chose to post on a thread that hasn't degenerated into a flame war.

[Poohbah]

I apologize for posting my flame.