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Border Militia: We'll Shut Down the Border with Machine Guns
TNL ^ | 04/09/2005 | The National Ledger

Posted on 04/10/2005 7:00:25 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone

Border Militia: We'll Shut Down the Border with Machine Guns

Casey Nethercott is the leader of a militia group dubbed the Arizona Guard and said during a TV interview broadcast on Friday, "When this Minuteman thing is over, if it doesn't work, we're going to come out here and close the border with machine guns."

KVOA TV-4 in Tucson carried a report on Friday by reporter Nancy Perla that toured the group's compound that sits along the Arizona/Mexico border near Douglas, Arizona. The camera showed two older model American made SUV's, both painted black, that Nethercott claims are "armored vehicles" with "quarter-inch steel in them." Pointing again to the vehicles, Nethercott continued, "You'll get killed without them, here's been so many shootouts out here."

The camera then shows a concrete block wall riddled with bullet holes that Nethercott says came from drug smugglers. The report titled "Mimicman Projects" by KVOA calls them copy cats and says the project could begin on July 4, though Nethercott would release no details.

The Minuteman Project stated through Chris Simcox, who is an organizer for the project, that they don't support a violent solution. "I think anytime you go to that length to take the law into your own hands, you're asking for trouble," Simcox told KVOA.

The armed militia supports the Minuteman Project, but says that if they fail to close the border to illegal border crossers, his group will step in and be heavily armed to do the job.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizonaguard; border; brothersantaanna; control; militia; proillegalthread; vigilantes; violence
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To: Mudboy Slim; Lazamataz; Spiff; ClintonBeGone; Dane

"And loser scumbags like Vicente Fox need to start doing what is necessary to promote a Mexican economy worth staying home for."

That is the crux of the whole issue. The best thing for Mexican citizens would be for us to close our borders. The only thing open border proponents are supporting is keeping an entire country mired in poverty. Their zeal to allow a few to escape is actually what will keep the vast majority of Mexicans in squalor.


461 posted on 04/12/2005 6:21:34 AM PDT by CSM
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To: CSM
The best thing for Mexican citizens would be for us to close our borders.

How is that good for them or those in the US?

462 posted on 04/12/2005 6:24:38 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: Stopislamnow

"Not really, but he was here illegally."

Wasn't Elian considered to be here legally as soon as he set foot on dry land?


463 posted on 04/12/2005 6:37:20 AM PDT by CSM
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To: ClintonBeGone

It would force their leadership to support an economy for their own country. If their leadership failed, a revolution would occur. If the Mexican citizenry was so satisfied with their leadership's economic policies, they wouldn't be streaming across the border.

With the option of pushing his people out of Mexico, Vicente can take no action and pay no price for it.


464 posted on 04/12/2005 6:39:46 AM PDT by CSM
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To: FastCoyote

"Lawlessnes begats lawless ness. That's the whole point. The Minutemen are trying to avert the greater problem."

Oh that is well-said. FReegards....


465 posted on 04/12/2005 6:47:13 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: CSM; Ben Ficklin; ClintonBeGone
"The best thing for Mexican citizens would be for us to close our borders."

I agree...America has now taught hundreds of thousands of ILLEGAL Immigrants trades such as carpentry, drywall installation, plumbing, HVAC, electrical, roofing, etc. These skills are easily transferrable to their homeland, and forcing a repatriation of ILLEGAL Immigrants would do wonders fer the Mexican economy!!

FReegards...MUD

466 posted on 04/12/2005 6:50:09 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Tom Delay is the BEST POLITICIAN in Congress...and the DemonRATS can't stand it!!)
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To: infocats; FastCoyote

Evil triumphs when...


467 posted on 04/12/2005 6:51:01 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: ClintonBeGone

Don't misunderstand my statements, we can close the borders but install gates at certain points. Controll is what we need to resolve this conflict.


468 posted on 04/12/2005 6:54:02 AM PDT by CSM
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To: CSM
Don't misunderstand my statements, we can close the borders but install gates at certain points.

Isn't that what we have now?

469 posted on 04/12/2005 7:11:03 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone

Obviously not.


470 posted on 04/12/2005 7:11:50 AM PDT by CSM
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To: Mudboy Slim
"repatriation of illegal immigrants would do wonders for the Mexican economy"

Probably the most accurate thing that you have ever posted at FR.

You understand that Mexico considers that all the Mexicans that are in the US, legally and illegally, are here on loan. They are here to tide the US over during our labor shortage. They expect the Mexicans to eventually return. That is one of the reasons that they created dual citizenship.

As time goes by, market reforms in Mexico will continue. Capital will continue to flow in. The birthrate will continue to fall. Education levels will continue to rise. Mexico has an abundance of natural resources. Their economy will expand. Opputunities for Mexicans will expand.

At some point in time there will be no Mexicans available to come to the US. It has been published that 2016 is the date. Whenever, 2012-2016-2020, that time will come.

And not long after that, the Mexicans will begin returning. Obviously, those that are established and successful here will not leave, but many/most will.

If you think having too many Mexicans in the US is a problem, wait until there are not enough.

471 posted on 04/12/2005 7:55:46 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
"...repatriation of illegal immigrants would do wonders for the Mexican economy"

"Probably the most accurate thing that you have ever posted at FR."

I dunno...apparently you haven't seen all my posts as I am pretty much aways accurate in my posts.

"You understand that Mexico considers that all the Mexicans that are in the US, legally and illegally, are here on loan. They are here to tide the US over during our labor shortage. They expect the Mexicans to eventually return. That is one of the reasons that they created dual citizenship."

What labor shortage?! There are plenty of Americans willing to do everything and anything the ILLEGAL immigrants are doing, just not fer the dirt-cheap wages the unscrupulous employers are paying them.

"As time goes by, market reforms in Mexico will continue. Capital will continue to flow in. The birthrate will continue to fall. Education levels will continue to rise. Mexico has an abundance of natural resources. Their economy will expand. Opputunities for Mexicans will expand."

And that is all to the good...we need a FRee and strong Mexico and a FRee and strong Canada for America to be the best it can be.

"At some point in time there will be no Mexicans available to come to the US. It has been published that 2016 is the date. Whenever, 2012-2016-2020, that time will come."

We can only hope that the national problem we have with ILLEGAL Immigration will be solved a lot sooner than that.

"And not long after that, the Mexicans will begin returning. Obviously, those that are established and successful here will not leave, but many/most will. If you think having too many Mexicans in the US is a problem, wait until there are not enough."

Not enough what?! ILLEGAL, under-valued grunt work?! If I've said it once, I've said it 1000 times, the problem with ILLEGAL Immigration is not the Immigration part of the equation, it is the ILLEGAL part of the equation!! There are hundreds of thousands of Mexicans waiting patiently to enter the US as LEGAL immigrants, and I bless these folks fer their patience. As fer the scofflaws, the sooner they return to Mexico, the better...then, if they want to come and work in the US, they can get in line with the rest of the folks!!

FReegards...MUD

472 posted on 04/12/2005 8:05:24 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Tom Delay is the BEST POLITICIAN in Congress...and the DemonRATS can't stand it!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim
Regarding the labor shortage, spend 20 minutes at google/google news.

More importantly, Alan Greenspan has testified to Congress twice on the robust labor supply.

473 posted on 04/12/2005 8:19:31 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
"Alan Greenspan has testified to Congress twice on the robust labor supply."

Ben, as it stands now, there are ILLEGALS doing many tasks in America that would need to be done by LEGAL sources when the ILLEGALS are returned to thir country of origin. However, the labor market will adjust accordingly and the work will be completed. Framing, drywall installation and the like ain't exactly rocket science...heck, even I can do it to a certain extent, so it can't be that irreplaceable.

FReegards...MUD

474 posted on 04/12/2005 8:48:08 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Tom Delay is the BEST POLITICIAN in Congress...and the DemonRATS can't stand it!!)
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To: s_feis_1; joanie-f; uncleshag; cedarswingman; tomkow6; Landru; jla; FBD; MeekOneGOP
"...personally, I would rather have a CLOSED BORDER than this travesty we now have..."

Y'all deserve the Federal Government to DO ITS JOB!! Protecting our borders from ILLEGAL Invasion must be America's Number One Priority!!

"...every couple of weeks I send out teams to find the dead ones and bury them, so far 328 have been "planted"..."

WOW!! You are on the front lines...do you have any sort of independent verification of that 328 number? And over how long a period has this been? This is the sorta info that I'd like to forward on to Rush Limbaugh.

"...with V.Fox cleaning out his prisons and transporting these pancho villa types to the border by the truck load, for them to have the federales chase them over the border into the US is at best a nightmare. WE NEED HELP!!!"

You DESERVE Help!! We'll do what we can to spread the word...you just hang in there and keep posting what you can from the front lines!!

FReegards...MUD

476 posted on 04/12/2005 10:30:20 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Tom Delay is the BEST POLITICIAN in Congress...and the DemonRATS can't stand it!!)
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To: s_feis_1
"I Pity Would-Be Immigrants!!"
(To be sung to Bob Dylan's "I Pity the Poor Immigrant")

I pity would-be immigrants...
Who follow our laws and stay home.
They are dreamin' of bein' U.S. citizens...
While law-breakers ignore our borders and roam.
Good men whose honor won't let'em cheat...
Good life's what they want best.
They wait patiently all their lives...
Law-breakers queer their quest!!

I chide those scofflaw immigrants...
Who sneak accross our plains!!
They break our laws and that ain't Right...
Borders are Left's bane!!
We'll FReep 'til we are satisfied...
They won't get amnesty!!
Truth haunts the folks who live in stealth...
'Cuz FReedom is not FRee!!

I blame the greedy bus'nessman...
Who use folks' sweat and blood!!
They fail our youth by cheating...
But cheap labor's not enough!!
What message does lawlessness send?
We trample laws en masse!!
I pity would-be immigrants...
When the scofflaws get a pass!!

Mudboy Slim (3 February 2005)

477 posted on 04/12/2005 11:03:27 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Tom Delay is the BEST POLITICIAN in Congress...and the DemonRATS can't stand it!!)
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To: JimRed

bttt


479 posted on 05/03/2005 10:39:59 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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