Wooooooo that was one of your best Dixie screams yet! LOL
You just won a free jumbo size box of 'FreeDixie Cups' and the Dixie Cup dispenser, PLUS, a free, all expense paid vacation to ......wonderful Cape Cod, for the annual Yankee Convention!
Posted on 04/24/2005 6:08:20 PM PDT by CHARLITE
ask m.eSPINola to RE-POST his #645 & you'll see what i mean. (IF he does repost that RACIST bilge, he will be BANNED. that is why he has NOT re-posted # 645.)
free dixie,sw
EITHER would do ANYTHING to "get ahead". ANYTHING. they are functionally TWINS, separated by @150 years.
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do you believe the CSA's black soldiers,sailors & marines were TOO DUMB to know what the war was about & what they were fighting FOR??
pray, give us the benefit of your great knowledge on that single question. a simple YES or NO, stripped of damnyankee blather/nonsense/spin, will be fine.
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
Wooooooo that was one of your best Dixie screams yet! LOL
You just won a free jumbo size box of 'FreeDixie Cups' and the Dixie Cup dispenser, PLUS, a free, all expense paid vacation to ......wonderful Cape Cod, for the annual Yankee Convention!
Quoting from 'Richmond Burning' by Nelson Lankford, 2003 Penguin books, N.Y.,N.Y., pages 31-33:
"In the trenches east of Richmond, the only African American reporter with the Union Army had his own opinion about these novel 'recruits to the 'southern cause'. He thought they were joining to increase their chances of escaping to the Union side" If the Confederates won these slave 'recruits' would be slaves once again.
"The Libby jailer feared Virginians would sooner lose their wives and daughters than give up their slaves"
What slave would ever fight to remain a slave? Saying slaves fought so the Confederates could continue slavery is just more neo-confederate propaganda.
Nonsense. The EP was a ploy by your White Supremacist hero Lincoln - if the states returned to the union before 1 Jan they would KEEP their slaves - they refused. Freedom from arrogant, liberal, yankee hypocrits meant meant more to Southerners. Additionally, Lincolns motivation was to prevent England from siding with the South, and was also designed to incite a slave rebellion al la Haiti, whereby millions of slaves would rise up and slaughter the old men, women and children that they were with - to their credit, the slaves refused, remaining loyal to their countrymen.
Lincoln always sought to preserve the Union and uphold the US Constitution first. The Emancipation Proclamation recognized that slavery in states not in rebellion was Constitutional [a sad and unfortunate truth], while slavery in states at war with the United States was not protected the same way.
BS. Our President can object to anything in a foreiegn country but cannot legally change anything. Your White Supremacist hero and Great Hypocrit Lincoln considered the seceded states to still be in the union - so he LEGALLY had no authority to seize Southern properties without compensation. Per the US Supreme Court, the 'Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and people, equally in war and in peace, and covers with the shield of its protection all classes of men, at all times, and under all circumstances. No doctrine, involving more pernicious consequences, was ever invented by the wit of man than that any of its provisions can be suspended during any of the great exigencies of government.'
-btw I posted the EP to you without comment in direct response to your posting Union documents regarding confedrate prisoners. The truth is your white supremist southern heroes were unwilling to treat captured black soldiers as humans, something you seem unwilling to face up to. Hence your quasi-legalistic strawman about how states in rebellion should be provided the legal protection of the country they were trying to destroy.
Your White Supremacist hero Lincoln refused medical supplies to his own POW's, and signed off on starvation wages for Confederate POW's. The Confederate government refused exchange of SLAVES, that the Union armies had conscripted (stolen) and placed into service as cannon fodder. Even then, Union soldier James Page had noted that there were only a handful of black prisoners, the refusal of Lincoln to exchange POW's was simply to prevent the Confederate forces to reclaim their own men.
The Confederacy never attempted to destroy your Union, they formed their own country. The Confederacy sought freedom, the Union fought against freedom and self-government.
Face it, Lincoln was MORE than willing to allow thousands of 'loyal' union soldiers to be held as POW's, knowing full well the Confederacy had almost no medicines (and refused to sell such for treating union troops), and knowing that POW's were starving as were Confederate troops. To Lincoln, such was acceptable.
free dixie,sw
UNfortunately for YOU, it is also FALSE, which you would have known had you read BLACKS IN BLUE & GRAY, by the late professor H R Blackerby, former chair of history at Tuskegee University.
BLACKS IN BLUE & GRAY is currently "out of print", but the book is available from Interlibrary Loan. may i suggest you go order the book, read it & then you'll be able to talk with some knowledge on this subject.
in point of fact, FREE blacks RUSHED to CSA recruiting stations to enlist as early as Mar 1861. (slaves could NOT enlist in the forces,as they could NOT freely take the oath of enlistment, thus what the "reporter" said is either a "statement from ignorance" or an outright LIE.)
fwiw, by mid-1862, there were only THREE (3)major segregated units (larger than battalion size) in the dixie military structure. those 3 units were ALL-black regiments, which had elected BLACK commissioned OFFICERS.
(NOTE: the union army had NO black officers, PERIOD. all black soldiers served in SEGREGATED units, under WHITE officers & at 1/2 the pay of white soldiers.)
free dixie,sw
would you care to guess when the USMC enlisted the first BLACK US Marine??
the answer is in late 1944, on order of FDR.
free dixie,sw
I am well aware of this fact. Why do you believe it took so long since we as Americans were attacked on December 7th, 1941?
Where was the principal opposition stemming from in integrate the U.S. Armed Forces? Would it have anything to do with the pro-segregation Southern politicians thinking if intergration of America's military is 'allowed' how will that effect state mandated segregation of the races in Southern states?
From which portion of the America did politicians on the Hill demand the continuation of the official discriminatory policy regarding the "Tuskegee Airmen"?
Once again you and other neo-confederates throw out goofy statements in order to some how legitimize the pro-slavery 'Confederacy'.
Would you have solid documented facts to back up your claim that 'free blacks' in the South 'rushed' to sign up to fight for the very people keeping as a 4rd class entity in plantation society?
Were are the 'real' historical accounts showing 'Confederate' blacks leading charges, fighting hand-to-hand combat or even shooting at Union forces?
Were blacks in the South rushing to join the pro-slavery Confederates they same way they signed up to fight to free the slaves in the South, as did the the heroic 54th Massachusetts and some 180.000 other black troops serving willingly in the Union Army & Naval forces?
"They were never mustered into the Confederate Army," said Mr. Hollandsworth an Associate Provost at the University of Southern Mississippi in Hattiesburg.
"The Confederate authorities never intended to use black troops for any mission of real importance," Hollandsworth wrote. "If the Native Guards were good for anything, it was for public display; free blacks fighting for Southern rights made good copy for the newspapers."
George Ewert, director of the Museum of Mobile 'Alabama' stated . "Because of their race they were not allowed to enlist as regular soldiers," Ewert said. "They acted as part of the home guard."
During the early days of the Civil War in Mobile, slaves were ordered to build the earthworks used to protect Mobile to protect their slave masters.
Let us please try and remain in the real historical world when discussing the Civil War. Free blacks and slaves were forced to worked in non-military ways: They mostly took care of horses and equipment, cooked meals, hauled supplies, washed clothes and carried the wounded and dead from the battlefields. They graded roads, constructed railroads, drove supply wagons, and labored in iron foundries and munitions industries, knowing if they refused they were as good as dead and you know it!
Researchers at the Alabama Department of Archives and History ran across a transcription of a letter regarding an actual regiment of free blacks established by a man in the Prattville area in early 1861, before the war started, states Bob Bradley, the chief curator. But researchers do not know what happened to that particular unit – whether it remained with the Confederacy or switched to the Union side.
There was only one flag which offered to stop slavery.
Continue making statements like the one above since they clearly exlemlify the warped mentality of the neo-confederates.
The Confederacy sought freedom, the Union fought against freedom and self-government.
The Confederacy sought freedom, to continue slavery and were crushed & defeated.
Well, at least I have the guts to post my comments to the same thread where they can be read by the people I'm talking about. I haven't gone behind anyone's back and posted comments where they won't know to look and respond. Can you say the same thing poseur?
Whatever that means...sorry, I don't speak the language of French surrender monkeys. I assumed you would be reading the post with bated breath.
And as far as I know, I haven't posted anything with the purpose of someone not being able to read it.
Now you're talkin'! Ships flying the UNION flag sailed to Africa to purchase slaves and brought them here. Lincoln is on record as stating he had no INTENTION nor legal right to end slavery.
Jefferson Davis, on the other hand, vetoed a bill allowing the importaion of slaves, and the Confederate Congress passed a law that would have required Union governors to receive captured blacks back as FREEMEN.
The Confederacy, AND the Union, already had slavery. Only an imbecile would believe that the Confederacy fought a war to continue what already existed, a practice that Lincoln supported PERMANENTLY. Face the facts jack, the Confederacy fought to free itself from hypocritical, pompous Yankees.
See the Official Records, Blacks in Blue and Grey, also Dr. Blackerby's book among others. I guess I'll have to post the story about Uncle Pomp.
Do you deny doing that?
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