Posted on 04/28/2005 12:03:24 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
If a Christian, whether you or someone else, engages in premarital sex but later repents of it, the Bible says he is forgiven. Of course, that's no license to go out and do it again if one remains unmarried.
Morality doesn't just include sex, though. Morality includes everything that involves right or wrong.
I think maybe what you're trying to distinguish between is different types of sex: physical sex, phone sex, porno sex, etc.
It's double-standard, "sexist" time and my apologies ahead of time, but...
The God in Gen. made them male and female, only he made them different; with different sexualities and different desires! And men have the higher urges--that's why God gave women a hymen (the only mammal with one), the capability of saying "no" and expected them to be virgins until marriage.
It well portrays the conflict between hard theory and practical reality. It doesn't weaken the Bible, IMO. It makes it more encyclopedic and realistic.
But the one standard, through all the sexual variations, that seems to make relationships work is keeping one's word. Like you say -- marriage with more than one wife, but a marriage kept. Most of the penalties for sexual misadventure were based on broken promises. An unbetrothed, unmarried woman and man caught together merely have to marry.
That is the standard missing. Promises made; promise kept. Promises made among partners. Promises made to and before God.
Anything else -- hey, Sarai told Abram to sleep with Hagar and God apparently wanted it that way. In that light, I worry that interfering with any modern day, consensual, arrangement, may be interfering with God's plan, working through unconventional means.
Okay so what would you call people that look at naked women and fantasize? we know many men in the world like that? are they commiting fornication?
The hymen comment aside, you're not saying unmarried men should be able to have sex while unmarried women shouldn't, right?
As a parallel question, what about married men and women, who look at porn with their partner's approval? Or married couples who look at porn together?
JMO, that's not fornication, but it is engaging in pornography/pornographic sex, which is immoral.
Who the heck knows I am already the token Heathen on this thread....I did some funky things Unmarried and Married.
Personally I would not marry someone until I had Sex with them, but that's just me...
YOU said Fornication and Immorality is one in the same...
Um, can you read?
He was killed for pulling it out before going...
He was killed for shirking his responsibility. He wasn't masturbating....
No, I said fornication is *immoral*, not immorality. Adjective versus noun.
And the Bible speaks of Fornication only...Concerning Sexual Behaviour...
I do believe masturbation to be wrong, but that is only because it is not a Scripturally ordained manner of releasing sexual urges.
The way of God is to have sex in marriage, not to do yourself.
I am not going to have sex until marriage, nor masturbate. Sometimes it is extremely, extremely difficult to stay chaste, particularly as a college student, but I thankfully do a pretty good job of not failing to honor this most of the time.
Well, masturbation is something you can control. Sometimes it is not easy....not even close. But, you can control it. You can't control night emissions.
Obviously those are part of how God designed us. If we won't release it in Biblical sex, it will be released naturally during sleep...and it feels good.
But, that is not something we can control. It does not provide an excuse to masturbate just because it happens without our control in sleep.
You are way to hard on yourself..you need that release or you can end up with some physical problems....
Men are not designed to carry a ocean load of Sperm to save for a rainy day.....
Throughout history men (and women) have sublimated (or transcended) the sexual urge as monks and nuns, renunciates of various faiths. It is possible to be celibate or chaste without harming the health. In fact, according to health traditions familiar to me, it is more detrimental to the vitality to squander one's sexual energy than it is to conserve it.
Of course, if a person stimulates the sexual urge by, for instance, viewing pornography or meditating on the sex act, it is virtually impossible not to be forced to seek sexual release.
I am sure monks and nuns have there own sexual releases..Hormones dictate sexual urges that is what causes every living thing the desire to procreate it's natural created by GOD to populate the world...
Wow a christian woman would be happy to meet you!
This has to be one of the most interesting threads on FR.
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