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Posted on 11/05/2005 1:26:38 PM PST by Slings and Arrows
I tuned in just a Beth was talking about the details of Urine's statement during the sex in car, then boom, statement shortens, Urine takes her back to hotel - that's end of statement.
Greta asks Beth if she believes that Urine killed Natalee at the lighthouse. Beth said she believes that something bad happened to Natalee there at the dunes at the lighthouse.
Beth looking very focused, notes look very impressive.
This is a very important interview, and I missed the beginning. On next discussing about Paulus.
#2424 - What the heck did that say????? I'm sure the reference was to Posner but trying to make any sense out of the rest of it takes a lot of imagination. Geez Louise!
Important interview with Beth and her notes on Greta tonight. Try to see it if you can.
That should be a bumper sticker: THEY DON'T MIND AND WE DON'T MATTER. Every travel Agent should have it above their information on "vacationing in Aruba"!!
Very rough notes from Greta's interview with Beth tonight:
Have statements...Jannsen selected the few statements for Beth's attorney to translate for her. Realized later there were more statements when new info began to come out.
June 9th Joran statement...describing the night prior to leaving CnC..bought NH 151 rum shots...left and took NH to lighthouse...admits sexual acts in back seat of Deepak's car...while NH going in and out of consciousness...all ends at the beach...Joran saying NH fell asleep...later changes to drop off at HI...Beth feels NH was killed at the point where Joran changes his story from NH sleeping on beach to dropping off at HI. Beth didn't put some things together until later, after some further translations and comparisons of statements.
Next up...did Joran rat out his father...what did he tell the police?
Joran interrogated last summer repeatedly...June 10th...Joran talks about drinking...different from first statement...no sexual assaults...what a drinker he is...bragging about his drinking...how much he could drink and not get drunk and bragging about himself...statement was mostly about him.
Re Joran's past therapy: Anita expressed concerns of Joran running the household..no rules adhered to...in one statement Joran says his father gave him advice not to talk on cell phones...don't use email...then get your story straight...use emails to establish story...
Thinks KJ was giving least incriminating statements to Beth...do know in some way she(KJ) purposely controlled which statements we had access to...if had seen June 13th statement would have known then how bad it was...June 13th statement was in Dutch when Beth obtained it.
I'll have to catch the re-run.
I took this to refer to the PVDS' sending Urine to college in Holland.
The American with criminal past operating a casino in Aruba must be Posner, and Jossy is complaining about that being allowed because Posner could never qualify for an Aruban work permit.
Then I think he is complaining about the government harrassing innocent businessmen with charges of money laundering and transport of drugs which did not result in convictions. Probably referring to his troubles with government.
An added note to Greta's show with Beth...I think the June 13th statement is the source of Joran's statements about his father giving advice of how to cover up their tracks with getting their story straight and using computers, etc., to establish their false story.
Sorry ya'll, but I miss bits and pieces while trying to transcribe in real time. My typing could use some improvement. LOL!
Your probably right. I did get the Posner stuff. I did understand about Urine being sent to school in Holland, and I understood that Jossy was complaining bitterly about the government. My question is this: WHO in Aruba votes for the government? If the Arubans get to vote then they are just as much to blame as Holland. If they don't get to vote then they simply have a Dutch government IMPOSED on them. The Dutch are CORRUPT. ALL of them. Too bad America doesn't buy Aruba and Curacoa. I would love to see them kick dutch A$$!! Hugo wouldn't be too impressed either. However I doubt these Islands are for sale since the Dutch can launder so much drug money here.
I'll maybe take a look right now and see if Greta is coming up shortly.
You are so right about Natalee's hairs being in DK's car. Thanks for pointing that out.
How is it at MOT with LOT they can make one long list of questions at Aruban businessmen and till even a mother or father be willing to command money for his child to study in exterior, then it follows that one person with criminal past can stay with permit to operate a locality where thousands and thousands of dollars are circulated all day?
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Sheba, I take this to mean that Aruba normally requires applications/forms/questionaires(asks a long list of questions) of businessmen and even parent's applying for money(willing to command money) to send their children to school outside of Aruba(in exterior).
It's a comparison of how most people must meet a higher standard than Posner was required to do to conduct business in Aruba or even to apply for monetary assistance to send their kids to study outside of Aruba.
Most importantly, this piece asks who in government profits most from Posner's business operations in Aruba. That is the person who waived the normal qualifications for Posner to operate in Aruba.
Something we haven't focused on much that might help you to have some hope in our government helping put pressure on Aruba is a bill sponsored by Bachus of Alabama to ban online gambling in the US. This will hit Posner and Aruba, by association, in the wallet with a devastating blow.
Great job on the Greta recap, RGVTx. The info sure came fast, I didn't even try to write it down.
I will look for any transcript I can find of this show. Greta doesn't post transcripts of every show, but tomorrow I might find it on scaredmonkeys.com, or the interview video on blogsfornatalee.com.
Strange as it may seem, CO, I did read something about Aruba being for sale, but I can't remember where just now. And, there was mention of Venezuela possibly buying it, if I remember right.
True, Sheba, it was a rapidly moving interview. They packed as much into that short time as possible. Also, kind of fragmented dialog. I think that was due to much of it being read from Beth's notes.
Spot on as usual, RGVTx. A very important question.
My theory about why Aruban LE is willing to go to such lengths to sabotage the investigation and to protect PSDS and his evil spawn is that he could retaliate against important people by revealing the corruption and start the domino effect that would involve most of everyone on the island that 'really counts'.
I agree with your theroy on PVDS. I do believe he holds some Aces.
One more thing from Greta that I didn't include because I wasn't sure I heard it correctly...Joran claims it takes 30 to 40 beers to get him drunk. He made this claim in his statement bragging about himself. I thought I must have heard wrong, but went to SM and verified it with other's reports. For a seventeen year old, Joran sure was a hardened drinker...if his braggart claims are even half way near the truth.
No further word on the tapes.
They have effectively been swept under the Aruban coverup carpet.
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