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Alabama governor calls for Aruba boycott
AP via Seattlepi.com ^ | Tuesday, November 8, 2005 | THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Posted on 11/08/2005 9:57:00 AM PST by 11th_VA

MONTGOMERY, Ala. -- Alabama Gov. Bob Riley called for a travel boycott of Aruba on Tuesday until authorities on the Dutch Caribbean island cooperate more fully with the family of a Mountain Brook teenager who has been missing since a graduation trip in May.

Riley asked the governors of the other 49 states to join him in urging a boycott of Aruba on behalf of the family of Natalee Holloway, an 18-year-old Mountain Brook High graduate last seen on the island May 30.

Her mother, Beth Holloway-Twitty, joined Riley at the Alabama Capitol for the boycott announcement. She contends Aruban authorities have failed to adequately investigate the possible murder of her daughter, who was with a teenager, Dutch national Joran van der Sloot, and Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe on the night she disappeared.

They were held for a time and released.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: 1arubahatesamerica; 1arubaiscorrupt; aruba; arubasucks; boycottaruba; grandstanding; nataleeholloway
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To: onyx

Absolutely. And we got more "issues" while she was here! UGH.


121 posted on 11/08/2005 1:07:28 PM PST by Howlin
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To: chronic_loser; kcvl

Check kcvl's post again. Kcvl was quoting someone else. (Italics are often used to signify quotes.)


122 posted on 11/08/2005 1:08:12 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Apparently you want us, and Natalee's family, to do as your screen name says. I hope no one follows your philosophy.


123 posted on 11/08/2005 1:10:25 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Aruba has bent over backwards trying to solve this case and has spent millions for the Permanent Vacation Natalie's family has been on since her death.
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You need to get up to speed on the facts. Read Dave Holloway's account of ALE's efforts.


"Dave: Well, when we first arrived on the island we rented a car. We stopped at two different police stations and explained the situation. I explained that I am the father of Natalee Holloway and she is missing. The first comment was would you like to file a complaint? Finally after talking to several officers in those two police departments, they indicated they were not aware of any disappearance and not aware of any complaint. So the directed me to the Noord police station which supervises the area around the Holiday Inn. When I arrived at that police station, the detective knew I was coming and I was frantic as you can imagine a parent being who has their daughter missing. I walked up to the front desk accompanied by my brother and brother in law.

I identified myself as the father of Natalee Holloway and Jacobs got up from his chair and grumbled “Well, how much money you got?” We were just stunned and everyone finally came together and we met in the back room He basically told us “Aw, this happens all the time, go down to C&C and have a beer and just wait on her and she’ll show up.” We questioned his tactics and wanted to know if a search was being conducted. He just looked at us and said “Why would you want to do that?” “Think positive, you’re thinking negative.” I said well the first few days are the most critical.

He indicated to us you are on the wrong page and you need to go search a drug house or whatever. And then he made the comment that “Look, I need to get with you guys. There have been some reports that some of Jugs friends have been busting up in some of these crack houses.” I was again floored. I thought how do you know about crack houses and who’s up in them, but you are not even aware someone is missing? You know, give me a break."




"Dave: I don’t know, sometimes I wonder now what the real motive is. I met with them again this past week and again one of the references was how money do you have and how long can you continue searching for your daughter. He said “Most of these cases we would have quit investigating long ago.” That’s when I decided we need a change."

and:

"Dave: We felt that we had a real key witness that I felt if he was interviewed properly that it could break this case. I went to the chief and expressed my concerns with the investigative team for one. I mentioned this witness as well. We had been watching the witness and knew he was very nervous. We felt like the time to strike is now while the iron is hot. I spoke with him that day, and the next day I called him early that morning.
I asked him “Gerold do me a favor. I’ve hung with you this long and can you please, please handle this interrogation?” I think if you handle it right, we could possibly solve this case. As of today, that has yet to be done."

and:

"Dave: I had very good communications with them up until Thursday. When I left the island, it seemed like the light switch went off. I left a couple of friends down there with Texas Equusearch and they were needing assistance. They indicated that once I left the island, no phone calls would be returned and they didn’t get any assistance. Tim became very upset, as you have heard on another show. He was ready to go ahead with Beth’s comments about boycotting Aruba. When that was mentioned, he received a phone call all apologetic and that sort of thing. So, I don’t know. It seems like when the press gets on them, they want to work with everyone. Then when the press gets off of them things go back to the usual."


124 posted on 11/08/2005 1:11:10 PM PST by RGVTx
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Months after the fact?

Time heals all wounds. It's all just water under the bridge. Lets just put this behind us and move on. They got away with it, and there's nothing we can do about it. Let's all just vacation in Arruba, keep feeding their economy, along with the corruption that allows the perps to escape justice. All they have to do is drag it out until the evidence goes away, and then it will be months after the fact. We should also not keep prisoners in prison months after the fact, and if you can avoid paying your bills for months, then you should never have to pay them back.

125 posted on 11/08/2005 1:12:50 PM PST by webheart
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To: onyx
Right. The only things we know for sure is, she went to Aruba with high school friends, she ended up going off with three guys, she's been missing or presumed dead for six months, and the Aruban authorities are faced with a task of such magnitude that they've never undertaken before, yet they've shown the behavior that they don't want the FBI involved, they've slapped NH's parents with insults on numerous occasions, and the authorities in Aruba feel inclined to just slough this whole thing off and hope that this gets swept under a rug.

Had I been in this situation, the Aruban authorities wouldn't have had it so easy. I'd be busy cracking skulls figuratively the moment they let off the three punks (who are the prime suspects in this case) a second time around five months ago.

126 posted on 11/08/2005 1:13:51 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: kinghorse
You blame Natalie disappearing on her parents getting a divorce? I have been faithful to and married to the same woman for 27 years, but to extrapolate that to some idiotic notion that my daughter will be safe on a high school trip is just stupid beyond words.

It might help to actually know what you are talking about before you insinuate that Natalie's activities that evening were provocative in some way to this situation. Of course, you could do the normal "flaming fundy" crap that makes Christians appear the prudish, uptight, intolerant bunch of judgmental twits that secularists love to parody and insist that Natalie was "engaged in wickedness" and thus culpable for being raped and then either sold into slavery or murdered.

"If you would just be pure and humble like us, you liberal godless scumbags, bad things like this would not happen to you like they do! Doesn't that make you want to be a Christian like us? If Natalie had been like us, she would never have gone to Aruba at all, you know. Instead, she would have met all the partygoers at the airport and handed them little cards that said "I cannot go to Aruba with you because Christians must abstain from any appearance of evil. I will pray for all of you as you are performing your vile execrable acts, and if you die in a plane crash, you will probably go to hell. your friend, Natalie." You know being a Christian means just being good, despite all that talk about grace and faith and stuff. That is just a trick, you know, to get you in and get you started keeping OUR rules. You know you have to be HOLY to be a Christian..... like me.
You might ask me 'brother Bob, how can I be like you?" Well, I don't know....., it took me YEARS to get this way, but thank God I have finally arrived!!! Let's pray, shall we?"

127 posted on 11/08/2005 1:22:58 PM PST by chronic_loser (Handle provided free of charge as flame bait for the neurally vacant.)
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To: leaf erickson

"No blood, fluids, nor could scent dogs could not find anything. "

That is what I have seen also, i would offer that the ten (or so) days that the car in question from that night was allowed to be running around could have been cleaned out.

I hold onto the idea she may be alive, I just doubt it.
I do think otyher possabilities exist besides three premeditated killers out for blood.

Another possability I thought of was that maybe she was left alone on the beach by joran that night. It is quite possible that she went for an evening dip and that was her end. Not likely mind you...but possible.


128 posted on 11/08/2005 1:25:00 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: demkicker

what exactly do I need to redeem myself for?

Maybe you should redeem your own coupon for judging a name and being WAAAAY off base for what it means.....I am no DEMOCRAT.


BETCHA feel foolish now!

Oh and that coupon isn't valid at my stores.....


129 posted on 11/08/2005 1:26:15 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: F15Eagle

I see it being very possible this is yet another deal where what happened isn't nearly as bad as the attempted cover up of what it LOOKS like.

Thanks for having an open mind.


130 posted on 11/08/2005 1:28:15 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: MizSterious; kcvl
You are correct, and I am wrong. I apologize, Kcvl. I missed the italics. I usually bold or underline and I just plain missed it.

I get so irritated at people who, in the name of morality, attempt to throw any of the blame on Natalie (a family friend of one of my best friends in HS). Even if the girl had been slutting around with every guy on the beach, it would not even BEGIN to justify blaming her....., but that simply was not the case. She was a good kid (as kids go), whose big crime was naivete.

131 posted on 11/08/2005 1:29:25 PM PST by chronic_loser (Handle provided free of charge as flame bait for the neurally vacant.)
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To: 11th_VA

Good idea.


132 posted on 11/08/2005 1:29:33 PM PST by hershey
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To: kinghorse

Maybe they weren't Christians when they divorced!! Besides, that's God's business not ours and regardless, this is about what happened to their beautiful daughter.


133 posted on 11/08/2005 1:29:34 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Western Canada MUST separate from the rest of Canada. We are the ONLY conservatives in the land.)
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To: HitmanNY

Thank you, well said.


134 posted on 11/08/2005 1:29:36 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: kinghorse

I believe that video turned out not to be her.


135 posted on 11/08/2005 1:30:34 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: demkicker

"NATALEE IS THE VICTIM."

That being TRUE, does that statement alone mean she is 100% without fault in her actions that lead to her being gone ( dead missing whatever)?


You cannot remove all personal responsibility sir. Stop trying.


136 posted on 11/08/2005 1:31:57 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: MizSterious

My only beef in this whole matter is the unwarranted time spent by Fox news and the rest of the cable media on this case. Since the girl was killed there have been thousands of other killings many unsolved. Why no interest in them?
Why is this story being pushed so much? You see no pattern here? You really believe it is because of the concern of the media? LoL

If Aruba could have solved this quickly it would have since it has cost the tourist industry millions already.


137 posted on 11/08/2005 1:35:15 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Burkean
"I totally support a boycott of sending naive high school students on week long, under chaperoned trips to party towns where it's all about gambling, booze, sex, and hanging out all night in seedy bars. "

hear, hear!!!!

perhaps these companies that provide these stupid trips should be required to carry 10x the liability.....perhaps that would shut this idiocy down for good.....

138 posted on 11/08/2005 1:36:23 PM PST by cherry
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To: justshutupandtakeit
RAruba has bent over backwards trying to solve this case and has spent millions for the Permanent Vacation Natalie's family has been on since her death.

That clinches it. There IS a contest! Where are the rules posted and what is the prize?

139 posted on 11/08/2005 1:38:41 PM PST by chronic_loser (Handle provided free of charge as flame bait for the neurally vacant.)
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To: BlueStateDepression
You cannot remove all personal responsibility sir. Stop trying.

And you don't have a clue as to where anyone's responsibility began or ended, so the far far far better thing to do would be to cease making stupid irresponsible assertions like you have some idea that you do. The only thing we know is that the responsibility lies with those who abducted her. Beyond that, you know nothing. Zip, zilch, nada. To imply that you have knowledge of Natalie, drugs, drink, sex or anything else is simply a stupid irresponsible rumor mongering assertion. Start from there, and we can talk about personal responsibility all you wish.

140 posted on 11/08/2005 1:43:23 PM PST by chronic_loser (Handle provided free of charge as flame bait for the neurally vacant.)
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