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To: BlueStateDepression
they thought noone would ever believe they were not attempting to abduct and rape her in a premeditative way

Since they admitted to raping her your "theory" is stupid.

a girl is dead, partly due to her own choices

Sure, why not blame the VICTIM of MURDER! No matter what the hell she did or didn't do (and knowing her and her family I highly doubt that she willing went anywhere with three grown men by herself) and she certainly didn't deserve to be MURDERED!

Natalee was NOT trash as the Aruban government wants people to think. She was a decent and lovable girl who was looking forward to college. Natalee's family has more evidence than the Aruban government knows they have. They just THINK the family will go away. THEY WILL NOT GO AWAY!

28 posted on 11/08/2005 10:28:08 AM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

"Since they admitted to raping her your "theory" is stupid."

They didnt admit to raping her. They admitted to having sex with her. SAying she was in and out isn't rape if she was wanting a threesome and took drugs on her own.
YOu make a LEAP like you just did and you call ME STUPID?

Best check yourself there!


"Sure, why not blame the VICTIM of MURDER!"

I blame her for going off with three strangers in a foreign country. Not for her muder. Two very different things that you obviously cannot distinguish.
Yeah but IM stupid LMAO OK.


"No matter what the hell she did or didn't do (and knowing her and her family I highly doubt that she willing went anywhere with three grown men by herself) and she certainly didn't deserve to be MURDERED!"

Ok lets eaxmine this statement.... NO MATTER WHAT SHE DID OR DIDN'T DO....HA you remove ALL personal responsibility with that statement....better rethink that one.....
I agree she didn't deserve to be murdered and I never said she did..you make senseless accusations there.
I do not care if you know her or not...she was NOT abducted from INSIDE anywhere...she went off by herself with strangers...this fact you cannot dispute.


"Natalee was NOT trash as the Aruban government wants people to think. She was a decent and lovable girl who was looking forward to college.

Going off with three strangers (OR EVEN ONE) doesn't make you TRASH..it only makes you a poor decision maker. That is all I said and all I assigned blame about.


"She was a decent and lovable girl who was looking forward to college"

At that age MANY are naive about the dangers of the real world MUCH LESS those in a foreign nation. Nothing I have said disputes that statement.

The family should not go away, answers need to come. After this post I hope you are prepared for them when they do.

To absolve natalie of her own actions is to live in OZ.
To claim Natalie was an innocent barbie that made NO MISTAKES in judgment or action is like saying that the kalpo boys and joran are totally innocent and nothing more than ken dolls that made a mistake. BOTH are improper statements to make.

Natalie was in a foreign country BY HERSELF. SHE alone is responsible for that(UNLESS her fiends ditched her on purpose) or ( UNLESS these boys abducted her against her will). Knowing these folks as you say you do, can you provide evidence towards the merit of either of those two?
You can say you DOUBT it all you want to......college girls go off with guys everyday...you think natalie is a lone exception? CMON NOW.

Natalie is most likely dead, and YES that is partly due to her own choices. ( there again, unless you can prove that these boys conspired to kidnap her against her will.....which is something I do not think you can do.)


37 posted on 11/08/2005 10:43:18 AM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: kcvl

Like Joran and the Kalpoes... if some here can just convince all that Natalie was a slut who asked for what happened to her we can all just move on. Nothing to see here folks, move along.
Disgusting and very sad.


47 posted on 11/08/2005 10:58:04 AM PST by antceecee
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To: kcvl
a girl is dead, partly due to her own choices

Is there some sort of contest or a prize going on on free republic for the biggest dumbass assertion of the day?
Let's see:
1) the guy robbed coming out of the quick shop should have known better than to shop there...., it was a sleazy part of town.br> 2) the girl raped walking down the street was asking for it..., her sweater was too tight
3) the person burned to death in France was partially to blame... after all, he knew about that famous Muslim "rage"
4) Every girl date raped with roofies is partly to blame because...., because....., because no girl should ever drink anything (alcoholic or no) in front of a guy....., you never can tell what they will put in it.

My family is from Alabama, and my brother and my sister and their families both live in Mt Brook (or N. Shelby county, which is the same thing). I went to HS with a guy whose daughter was VERY good friends with Natalie (she is a senior this year at Mt Brook and so was not old enough to go on the trip). Natalie was NOT a partying drunken slut. She was not a party girl at all. There is plenty of opportunity to do plenty of drugs in the Mt. Brook HS scene (lots of money and lots of spoiled kids) and Natalie just didn't go that route.

It really pisses me off to see ignoramuses who don't know crap about the situation weigh in wagging their ignorant fingers on stuff about which they know nothing, and talking smack about a very nice girl.

114 posted on 11/08/2005 12:51:09 PM PST by chronic_loser (Handle provided free of charge as flame bait for the neurally vacant.)
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