Posted on 11/19/2005 11:37:00 PM PST by nickcarraway
You really think we didn't spot your reference to "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants"? So, if not academics, who are the tyrants whose blood you intend to water the tree of liberty with?
You sneak in a backdoor call for violence against people you oppose, and then deny it when confronted. What a noble exemplar you are of what at you believe in!
That's a pretty arrogant thing for a TA to say, considering that there are far more accomplished people such as my father (Ph.D. in Physics, Cornell) who would disagree. There are different varieties of Creationism, anyway, and many of them are perfectly compatible with modern geology. Even some young earth views (such as the claim that God created the world with apparent age) could reasonably be believed by someone with a good knowledge of geology. The only views for which this TA's comments might be valid are some of the flood-geology related young earth arguments.
Should someone who believes the heart is the organ of cognition be allowed to graduate with a medical degree?
"You really think we didn't spot your reference to "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants"?"
Of course not. However, I would expect sane people to be able to distinguish between jihad and the protection of the constitution against its domestic enemies.
Was the revolutionary war a jihad? Is religious liberty one of the goals of jihad? Or is your use of the word just another hateful and hate-filled attack on our constitutionally guaranteed free exercise of religion?
The answers are obvious. You are a traitor against the Constitution, just as much as any cortical paralytic at DU.
"So, if not academics, who are the tyrants whose blood you intend to water the tree of liberty with?"
More intellectual dishonesty with that "you intend" misrepresentation. Nothing more dignified than a transparent attempt to demonize the willingness to protect the constitution from its domestic enemies.
"You sneak in a backdoor call for violence against people you oppose"
It's a front-door assertion of the moral right and the willingness to use Second Amendment rights to protect First Amendment rights from traitors.
What I deny is your weasely, dishonest attempt to paint that as "jihad." And how typical of those who would trample our First Amendment rights to refer to the words of Jefferson as "a backdoor call for violence."
I need to go to church both services now to get that image out of my mind
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Sane people can. I hope you don't enumerate yourself among that number. A call for violence in response to a perceived bias in universities puts you a long, long way from sanity.
You are a traitor against the Constitution, just as much as any cortical paralytic at DU.
And you are a lunatic with violent fantasies.
"So, if not academics, who are the tyrants whose blood you intend to water the tree of liberty with?"
More intellectual dishonesty with that "you intend" misrepresentation. Nothing more dignified than a transparent attempt to demonize the willingness to protect the constitution from its domestic enemies.
Answer the question. Or is it you want other people to slaughter academics, but you'd prefer not to get involved yourself?
It's a front-door assertion of the moral right and the willingness to use Second Amendment rights to protect First Amendment rights from traitors.
And above you've said I am a traitor. That's a direct threat of violence aimed at myself. Admin Moderator, please note.
Next comes denying anyone w/faith the right to vote. Can yellow crosses and stars be far behind?
Maybe this TA needs to think about the personal consequences of politically correct thought as a litmus test in the sciences.
For the record, I support evidence-based science. I find this anecdote shocking. Someday, this person will be a full professor and his attitudes will influence another generation....if they are even allowed into the university by then.
And you are a lunatic with grandiose fantasies.
"A call for violence in response to a perceived bias in universities puts you a long, long way from sanity."
What I have said puts me a lot closer to honesty than a despicable liar who would misrepresent it in that way.
"And you are a lunatic with violent fantasies."
OOOooo, good argument there, "professor."
"Answer the question."
That wasn't a question; it was a slur pretending to be a question. A very common stratagem among those who prefer discrediting an opponent to dealing with what was actually said.
"Or is it you want other people to slaughter academics, but you'd prefer not to get involved yourself?"
Ah, yes, your attempts to trample the constitutional rights of others are laudible, but a statement that you will not be allowed to do so must be denigrated as "slaughter."
The Founding Fathers gave us the Second Amendment as a last resort against tyranny. If lesser means do not avail, not just I, but millions of responsible Americans will, I hope, protect their Constitutional rights against the tyranny you advocate.
"And above you've said I am a traitor. That's a direct threat of violence aimed at myself. Admin Moderator, please note."
Call the FBI, crackpot.
So are you also willing 'to use Second Amendment rights to protect First Amendment rights from traitors', traitors defined as those who insist on a scientific explanation of origins?
I'm considering it. Your views on using violence against 'traitors' are indistinguishable from Terry McVeigh's. Let's hope they stop you before you bomb a child care center, although, frankly, I doubt you have either the cojones or the skill.
"I'm considering it."
Do it. You might profit from the reality check, though I doubt it.
"Your views on using violence against 'traitors' are indistinguishable from Terry McVeigh's."
Only to a purblind religious bigot like you.
I have a hard time believing that the courses he took at his Christian high school are any less 'academic' than your typical History or English course at some high school in East LA or South Central LA. I'm sure they allow students from those schools into the CA state university system all the time without requiring them to jump through hoops.
No. It's not bigotry to note that you advocated spilling blood to correct perceived anti-religious bias by universities. If you had not, you would have pointed out how you had been misinterpreted, rather than simply issuing denials. There is no other reasonable construction of your remarks. Using passive constructions "the willingness to use Second Amendment rights" only means you are a moral coward, too gutless to admit to what you yourself advocated.
Where? In other coutnries? Oh wait, in most other countries there is no anti-evolution movement. No wonder a large fraction of industrial research is being outsourced to India and China.
Theu don't teach creationist BS in Catholic schools. As a matter of fact, Bob Jones University, the publisher of one of the texts under dispute here, has historically been a major source of anti-Catholic bigotry.
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