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To: P-Marlowe; xzins; gondramB; Right Wing Professor
This leaves only one question: Are secular liberals or Christian conservatives more dogmatic and closed-minded? To any fair-minded person, the answer is startlingly simple. It would be tough to find a single Christian high school, college, or university in the nation that does not treat Darwinian evolution seriously. However, it would be even tougher to find a single public high school or secular university that grants a respectful hearing to intelligent design, let alone a religious view of creation.

It is also only on secular campuses that truth is frequently suppressed in the interests of political correctness.

If science means being open to all ideas, judging those ideas on the basis of evidence rather than belief, and withholding judgment in the absence of evidence, there can be no doubt at all. Christian conservatives are far less anti-Scientific than others.

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Great comment, Rabbi.

Lost in the "discussion" between the dogmatic atheists and devoted Christians (and Theists) is what the issue in the law suit actually is. It's not good enough for RWP and his fellow atheists (or secular humanists, etc., whatever label is preferred) that every child in American be taught Darwinian evolution. It must be taught as established scientific fact. Even that is not sufficient. The students must agree and believe in the theory. In the case of the UC, not even that suffices. Private, Christian schools such as the one my daughter attends, Calvary Chapel Christian High School, Vista, CA, must NOT teach anything that contradicts their dogma. The UC system has publicly expressed it's opinion that it has the lawful, constitutional right to be the final arbiter on curriculum any place a student in America studies, if they intend to apply to a UC school. This will logically apply to home schooled students as well, and will range far beyond the issue of evolution. If a Bob Jones, Beka, or even a Pastor's notes are found there, the UC Administrators intend that my child and others who attend such schools will never see the inside of an advanced University. And it's not just biology. Every left-wing principle now in play will be taught to every child in America, or those children will never attend a major University. It's not a reactionary conjecture on my part; it's a logically deduction based on the UC's stated position.

The issue is not whether Darwinian Evolution is "true", or scientifically accurate. University professors such as "Right Wing Professor" and the UC Administrators want to make sure that NO SCHOOL IN AMERICA dares teach anything that contradicts their dogma.

My daughter is well versed in the sciences, she tutors Math and English, and she also knows what she believes, and why she believes it. She can articulate her objections to Darwinian evolution because she has studied it. She has a good, classical "liberal" education, because she attended the private schools (seven different schools in 12 years) that she has. But that is not good enough for the UC or RWP. Her SAT scores and stelar accomplisments mean nothing.

RWP and his Darwin worshipping buddies are having a good old chuckle at the Neanderthal-Christians like myself, who dare to disbelieve their holy teachings. They could care less that my well-qualified daughter faces clear discrimination - real, personal, lifetime-lasting damage, because of, and only because of her religious faith. She's and other kids like her must be considered acceptable "collateral damage" to RWP and his ilk. I can just imagine their thoughts: "Too bad she had stupid parents who sent her to a Christian school to learn "voodoo" science. Oh well, screw her; at least our University classrooms will be pure and undefiled by those mystics. Maybe we should pin a star on them so we'll all be able to recognize those idiots in case they try to sneak in."

RWP is so far "right wing" that his position on religious people is hard to distinguish from that of Hitler's. He certainly has never absorbed the U.S. Constitution, or the First Amendment. (Hint: It was written to protect my daughter from creeps like the secular left, not to empower them in persecuting Christians.")

SFS

137 posted on 11/21/2005 12:48:45 AM PST by Steel and Fire and Stone
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
The issue is not whether Darwinian Evolution is "true", or scientifically accurate. University professors such as "Right Wing Professor" and the UC Administrators want to make sure that NO SCHOOL IN AMERICA dares teach anything that contradicts their dogma.

Oh good, more libel from a Christian. By their fruits ye shall know them.

I fully support your right to teach your unfortunate kids whatever loony origin story you wish. However, I have not only the right, but the duty, to evaluate academic credentials when they pertain to my subject area. A course which teaches scientifically false material - for example, that the earth is of the order of thousands of yours old - is not a valid science course.

My daughter is well versed in the sciences, she tutors Math and English, and she also knows what she believes, and why she believes it. She can articulate her objections to Darwinian evolution because she has studied it. She has a good, classical "liberal" education, because she attended the private schools (seven different schools in 12 years) that she has. But that is not good enough for the UC or RWP. Her SAT scores and stelar accomplisments mean nothing.

Seven schools in twelve years. Why did you do that?

SAT scores are only part of university admissions credentials.

RWP is so far "right wing" that his position on religious people is hard to distinguish from that of Hitler's. He certainly has never absorbed the U.S. Constitution, or the First Amendment. (Hint: It was written to protect my daughter from creeps like the secular left, not to empower them in persecuting Christians.")

(1) Godwin's law invoked

(2) Please identify two or three figures in the secular left in 1789, and some documentation of the claim that the First Amendment was formulated to protect us from them.

138 posted on 11/21/2005 1:01:30 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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