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Mirecki hospitalized after beating (KU Relig. prof. who mocked religion)
Lawrence Journal World ^ | 12/05/05 | Ron Knox

Posted on 12/05/2005 8:13:08 PM PST by Will_Zurmacht

Mirecki hospitalized after beating

By Ron Knox, Eric Weslander (Contact)

Originally published 05:37 p.m., December 5, 2005 Updated 06:31 p.m., December 5, 2005

Douglas County sheriff’s deputies are investigating the reported beating of a Kansas University professor who gained recent notoriety for his Internet tirades against Christian fundamentalists.

Kansas University religious studies professor Paul Mirecki reported he was beaten by two men about 6:40 a.m. today on a roadside in rural Douglas County. In a series of interviews late this afternoon, Mirecki said the men who beat him were making references to the controversy that has propelled him into the headlines in recent weeks. Mirecki

Mirecki

“I didn’t know them, but I’m sure they knew me,” he said.

Mirecki said he was driving to breakfast when he noticed the men tailgating him in a pickup truck.

“I just pulled over hoping they would pass, and then they pulled up real close behind,” he said. “They got out, and I made the mistake of getting out.”

He said the men beat him about the upper body with their fists, and he said he thinks they struck him with a metal object. He was treated and released at Lawrence Memorial Hospital.

“I’m mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots,” he said.

Douglas County Sheriff’s Officials are classifying the case as an aggravated battery. They wouldn’t say exactly where the incident happened, citing the ongoing investigation

The sheriff’s department is looking for the suspects, described as two white males between ages 30 and 40, one wearing a red visor and wool gloves, and both wearing jeans. They were last seen in a large pickup truck.

Anyone with information is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 843-TIPS or the sheriff’s office at 841-0007.

Mirecki recently wrote online that he planned to teach intelligent design as mythology in an upcoming course. He wrote it would be a “nice slap” in the “big fat face” of fundamentalists.

The remarks caused an uproar, Mirecki apologized, and KU announced last week the class would be canceled.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: ameritaliban; cawcaw; crevolist; fakehatecrimes; falsechristian; idgoons; ku; legbreakersforchrist; mirecki; paulmirecki; religionofpeace; talibornagain; unsaved
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To: Will_Zurmacht

Not only does it sound 'strange'.......but the guy is totally lying. No doubt in my mind.


151 posted on 12/06/2005 2:59:58 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: Will_Zurmacht

Self-inflicted hate crime.

The "pity me" defense is being used. Funny the type of pickup isn't mentioned. I'd sure know the difference between a Ford, GMC, and Toyota.


152 posted on 12/06/2005 3:19:32 AM PST by OpusatFR
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153 posted on 12/06/2005 3:26:53 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, common scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Interesting, nobody I know would lay a hand on the face slapping hate mongering professor. See a Christian would never act in this manner, there is a Book that defines what is acceptable and what is NOT, and this does not fit a Christian profile.


154 posted on 12/06/2005 3:31:44 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Dimensio

"NO REAL CHRISTIANS WOULD DO THAT"

BTK was a pillar of his church.


155 posted on 12/06/2005 4:14:13 AM PST by Ben Chad
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To: Just mythoughts

"Interesting, nobody I know would lay a hand on the face slapping hate mongering professor. See a Christian would never act in this manner, there is a Book that defines what is acceptable and what is NOT, and this does not fit a Christian profile."

You mean no one professing Christ ever commits a sin? I did not know that.


156 posted on 12/06/2005 4:22:55 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: ladyjane
The Tawana Brawley hoax was Rev Al's springboard to fame...

    
157 posted on 12/06/2005 4:25:44 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Boazo

I thought that was Janet Reno at first glance.


158 posted on 12/06/2005 4:30:01 AM PST by Rebelbase (Food stamps, section-8, State paid Child support, etc. pay more than the min. wage.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

"You mean no one professing Christ ever commits a sin? I did not know that."

Your pale horse needs some sunlight. Christ said there would be many coming in His name, professing Him, but he never knew them. Reason why I pointed to the BOOK as the definition of what is acceptable and what is NOT.


159 posted on 12/06/2005 4:35:47 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Will_Zurmacht

Police have issued an all point bulletin for the Neanderthals that carried out the attack.


160 posted on 12/06/2005 4:38:46 AM PST by csvset
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To: Just mythoughts

"Your pale horse needs some sunlight. Christ said there would be many coming in His name, professing Him, but he never knew them. Reason why I pointed to the BOOK as the definition of what is acceptable and what is NOT."

Oh, I get it! You and your fellows never sin in any way at all.


161 posted on 12/06/2005 4:42:42 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: Will_Zurmacht

Is this another liberal hoax? Now if he had insulted Muslims, we wouldn't have to wonder if there was actually an attack. The sheriff would have had to pick up the professor's head at the side of the road.


162 posted on 12/06/2005 4:43:00 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: JCEccles

Just something to keep in mind regarding license plates - Kansas only uses a rear license plate, which he would not have been able to see until the alleged perps were driving away.

Frankly, though, this whole thing smells to me, too - and I live in the area.


163 posted on 12/06/2005 4:43:54 AM PST by MortMan (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

"Oh, I get it! You and your fellows never sin in any way at all."


NOT even worth the time to respond, get some sunlight.


165 posted on 12/06/2005 4:44:08 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Will_Zurmacht; gobucks; mikeus_maximus; MeanWestTexan; JudyB1938; isaiah55version11_0; bondserv; ...
(((Creationist Ping)))



You have been pinged because of your interest regarding matters of Creation vs. Evolution - from the Creationist perspective. Freep-mail me if you want on/off this list.

Colossians 1:16 "For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him."



Well, this is an interesting twist. Hopefully, the professor was not seriously injured, and since he was treated and released, it sounds like he wasn't. How sad that some frevolutionists are exploiting this man's injuries to promote their own agenda against creationists. These were no more agents of creationism than an abortion clinic bomber is an agent of the pro-life movement.
166 posted on 12/06/2005 4:45:12 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger (Celebrating my first full year on FR! Has it been one year already?? Has it only been one year??)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
For some reason, I think this should be taken with a large grain of salt.

It gets him on the front page so his rants and hate of Christians will reach more people.

167 posted on 12/06/2005 4:48:35 AM PST by Dustbunny (Main Stream Media -- Making 'Max Headroom' a reality.)
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To: Will_Zurmacht

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2005/dec/06/mirecki_treated_after_roadside_beating/?city_local


Mirecki said in a phone interview that the incident happened as he was “going out for breakfast, taking a drive and thinking about things.” He declined to say exactly where it happened, and the sheriff’s department did not release the location, except to say it was south of Lawrence.

Mirecki said that when the pickup truck began tailgating him, he stopped his vehicle hoping it would pass. Instead, the men pulled up directly behind him, he said.

“They got out, and I made the mistake of getting out,” he said.

Mirecki said the beating began almost instantly. The men punched him about the head and shoulders and struck him with a metal object, he said.

(snip)

The sheriff’s office is classifying the case as an aggravated battery. On Monday afternoon, the office asked for the public’s help finding the suspects. Mirecki described them as two white males between the ages of 30 and 40, one wearing a red visor and wool gloves and both wearing jeans.

(snip)

“The information that we have is pretty basic,” Lt. Kari Wempe said. “Our investigators are working on it right now.”

(snip)

When told that some people were questioning the truth of his report, Mirecki fired back.

“The right wing wants blood, period. They’re not going to stop until they see blood. They’re not into anything else,” he said. “Whatever I do, whatever I say, they don’t believe anything because that’s the way they are... I know what happened. I got the hell beat out of me. They can say what they want.”

(snip)


168 posted on 12/06/2005 4:49:20 AM PST by maggief
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To: jaguaretype
Hopefully this turd is outed as a fraud and his "paid for beat down" leaves some indelible marks anyway. LOL!!

And if it turns out to be true? Are you going to retract your comments?

169 posted on 12/06/2005 4:50:00 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer

What does not make sense is his getting out of the car in what might have been a confrontation with two men. He is either lying or REALLY stupid.


170 posted on 12/06/2005 4:52:49 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Pharmboy

"What does not make sense is his getting out of the car in what might have been a confrontation with two men. He is either lying or REALLY stupid."

They could've played friendly:

"Hey, buddy, there's something hanging off the back of your car, have a look."


171 posted on 12/06/2005 4:54:22 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: maggief
“The right wing wants blood, period. They’re not going to stop until they see blood. They’re not into anything else,” he said. “Whatever I do, whatever I say, they don’t believe anything because that’s the way they are... I know what happened. I got the hell beat out of me. They can say what they want.”


I pray the assaulters will be identified and caught.
172 posted on 12/06/2005 4:54:35 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

With all the hate mail and threats he's gotten, if that's the way it went down, my vote is for REALLY stupid.


173 posted on 12/06/2005 4:56:32 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Pharmboy

"With all the hate mail and threats he's gotten, if that's the way it went down, my vote is for REALLY stupid."

I know in my heart that most people mean well, even if my cynicism gets the better of me. And Kansas is mostly made up of good people.

If threats and hate mail get one to live in fear of every person they meet, then the threats accomplished their intended goal.

Looks like he may have gotten unlucky.


174 posted on 12/06/2005 4:59:32 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: DaveLoneRanger
He wrote it would be a "nice slap" in the "big fat face" of fundamentalists.

Cause and effect. "Nature" takes it's course.

176 posted on 12/06/2005 5:09:40 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Will_Zurmacht

Go to the link and read way down to where someone expresses doubt that his story is true.


177 posted on 12/06/2005 5:13:33 AM PST by Mercat (God loves us where He finds us.)
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To: Morris_Hattrick

Let's hope that the cops catch the guys who did it and that they go down for a long stretch.

If he has faked it then let's hope that the cops work it out, prove it, and he goes down for a long stretch.

I wonder if that is a pair of sentiments that every Freeper can go along with.


178 posted on 12/06/2005 5:14:18 AM PST by Thatcherite (F--ked in the afterlife, bullying feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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To: Morris_Hattrick

I think the idea expressed is that he is lying, and the clues are coming from the article...


179 posted on 12/06/2005 5:18:55 AM PST by sobieski
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To: LibFreeOrDie

yup , my first thought["what,no license plate#?"] , and now we're quite sure he wasn't badly injured


180 posted on 12/06/2005 5:19:37 AM PST by Dad yer funny
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Nyuh-uh! This one stinks to high heaven.


181 posted on 12/06/2005 5:20:37 AM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Support Zien's PPA/CCW bill in Wisconsin.)
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To: Thatcherite
Let's hope that the cops catch the guys who did it and that they go down for a long stretch. If he has faked it then let's hope that the cops work it out, prove it, and he goes down for a long stretch. I wonder if that is a pair of sentiments that every Freeper can go along with.

Hey, you with the sensible, rational commentary. Cut that out. < g >

182 posted on 12/06/2005 5:22:36 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: BipolarBob
In the movie "Dirty Harry", a perp hired someone to beat him up.

Carl Eller.

183 posted on 12/06/2005 5:26:33 AM PST by Pusterfuss (Proud member: Minnesotans for Global Warming)
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To: RogueIsland; All

You're right of course. I'll just get back to what I know best, posting unpleasant, condescending, arrogant flames against poor creationists who stumble unwitting into crevo debates. I'll make them regret they ever mentioned the cambrian explosion or the 2LOT, and slap their big fat faces with the power of my godless rhetoric.

Oh... wait... what are you two guys holding that tyre iron looking at me like that for?


184 posted on 12/06/2005 5:28:19 AM PST by Thatcherite (F--ked in the afterlife, bullying feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

"Cause and effect. "Nature" takes it's course."

You just can't stop gloating over this man's beating, can you?
Not very Christian of you.


185 posted on 12/06/2005 5:30:47 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Emmett McCarthy

"Who wants to take bets that this turns out to be phony?"

It sounds like it. It would take a serious wuss to beat someone with a metal object and for them to only get away with scrapes and bruises.

It also has too many hokey references. A pickup truck? Two white males? He is looking to make the "stupid rednecks want to fight instead of talk" ploy.

If it did happen, I hope they jail whoever did it. But my bet is on that this is a staged event.


186 posted on 12/06/2005 5:31:41 AM PST by johnnyb_61820
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To: Lancey Howard

And, we musn't forget, another icon of liberal ideologies, where the end justifies the means.....WARD CHURCHILL, the non-Native American Indian, Native American. : )


187 posted on 12/06/2005 5:32:19 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: PatrickHenry

This is a miserable thread. If any thread belongs in the Smokey Backroom, this one does.


188 posted on 12/06/2005 5:32:43 AM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Thatcherite
"Oh... wait... what are you two guys holding that tyre iron looking at me like that for?"


tyre???? Must be a foreign object, as we in America spell it TIRE. Funny the article did not say what kind of metal object was used, you know something we don't know????
189 posted on 12/06/2005 5:33:45 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

I thought that great satire; akin to the SNL skit w/ Steve Martin as a smart caveman and Bill Murray as a Neanderthal. Steve makes fun of Bill, is real witty. Then Bill bashes him with a rock. That's just evolution in action, isn't it?


190 posted on 12/06/2005 5:34:32 AM PST by sobieski
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To: Will_Zurmacht

Those ID zealots are always found in red pickups. But profiling restrictions are hampering police efforts. /s


191 posted on 12/06/2005 5:35:16 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion it will give it to you.)
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To: BipolarBob


Yup

I also thought of that one instantly


The Klintoons took it to an art form


192 posted on 12/06/2005 5:35:27 AM PST by devolve (<--- (--------(--do not check out my tame FR home page--)-------)
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To: Dimensio

Oh my goodness! You found a blogger who was less than credible. I'm astonished!

Puhleeeeaaaaasssseeee.


193 posted on 12/06/2005 5:36:57 AM PST by johnnyb_61820
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To: Just mythoughts
tyre???? Must be a foreign object, as we in America spell it TIRE. Funny the article did not say what kind of metal object was used, you know something we don't know????

You've smoked me out. Before the redcoats return to establish Divinely Rightful Rule over the rebellious colonists we have first sent spies to forment dispute and chaos, by faking attacks on prominent controversial citizens.

MUWHAHAHAHAHA!!!! All Hail Charles III, Emperor of America!

194 posted on 12/06/2005 5:38:58 AM PST by Thatcherite (F--ked in the afterlife, bullying feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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To: PhilDragoo


Yup

Pansy "Brawls" himself


195 posted on 12/06/2005 5:39:45 AM PST by devolve (<--- (--------(--do not check out my tame FR home page--)-------)
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To: Thatcherite
"You've smoked me out. Before the redcoats return to establish Divinely Rightful Rule over the rebellious colonists we have first sent spies to forment dispute and chaos, by faking attacks on prominent controversial citizens.

MUWHAHAHAHAHA!!!! All Hail Charles III, Emperor of America!"

Nah, Charlie does not have enough starch he is tooooo busy conversing with his flowers, now maybe a William could be groomed to fit the bill.
196 posted on 12/06/2005 5:42:22 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: hinckley buzzard
And, "treated and released" is a far cry from "hospitalized after beating." This one definitely flunks the smell test.

You're right about that. The "national surrogates" need to work on being a little less transparent with their biased reporting.

197 posted on 12/06/2005 5:42:52 AM PST by LibSnubber (Liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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To: Will_Zurmacht

The man's a liar.

He bought one of those Clapper thingies to turn his lights on and off and one night, while returning home from grocery shopping, he opened the door, the Clapper turned the lights on, he dropped a can of Pork&Beans, the lights went off, he tripped over the fallen can, spilled the rest of his groceries, and the Clapper turned the lights back on.

He's just too proud to admit it.


198 posted on 12/06/2005 5:43:07 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Imposing a "King Billy" on the Irish Catholic Americans might be seen as unduly provocative.


199 posted on 12/06/2005 5:45:23 AM PST by Thatcherite (F--ked in the afterlife, bullying feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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To: Thatcherite
Imposing a "King Billy" on the Irish Catholic Americans might be seen as unduly provocative.

99% of them woudn't know who King Billy was. ;-)

200 posted on 12/06/2005 5:48:56 AM PST by Right Wing Professor (...overthrow the Dutch usurper, and restore the Jacobites!)
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