Creation evangelist derides evolution as ‘dumbest’ theory [Kent Hovind Alert!]

University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Post ^ | 17 December 2005 | Kayla Bunge

[andysandmikesmom]

I am not a Catholic...but I am willing to bet, that the Pope, has a much greater knowledge of the Bible, than you do(true, I dont know you or your background, but I do know that the Pope has studied the Bible in great remarkable detail, and no doubt has access to great Biblical scholars, as well as access of great scientific minds)...

If the Pope, with all his knowledge, with his access to experts, can say that the scientific evidence supports evolution, while still maintaining that it was God, who put the whole thing in motion, well, thats good enough for me...

You have your 'interpretation', of what certain Biblical passages say, and millions of others have a different 'interpretation' of those same passages...just take a look sometime on any of the religious threads that are on FR...sometimes those folks cannot even agree on the meaning of a simple word like 'brother', 'sister', 'all', 'day', 'year' and on and on...if people can honestly disagree about the meaning of a single word in the Bible, there will be even more disagreement on whole passages...

You cannot prove that your 'interpretation' of the Bible is correct and mine is wrong, nor can I prove that my 'interpretation' of the Bible is correct and yours is wrong...

But I do like to rely on scholars of the Bible, and even those scholars disagree...I believe the Pope to be a scholar of the Bible, and as such I stand with him on the ability of evolution and belief in God to be compatible...
You may not agree with that, and thats a choice you make...
What I detest, is when mere humans take it upon themselves to condemn others to hell, merely because they have a different 'interpretation' of what is said in the Bible...I am not saying that you yourself have done such a thing, but there are enough ID/Creationist posters who have done exactly that...in their pride and their arrogance, they have chosen to speak for God in deciding who goes to hell and who does not...I was not aware that God appointed special people on earth today, who can actually devine where my or anyone elses actual destiny after death may be...

[b_sharp]

ROTFLMAO!!!!

Just glad I didn't have fluid in my mouth when I read that.

[furball4paws]

You, ilk , you....

[sirchtruth]

Look, I really appreciate the work you've done to point all this out to me, but it still doesn't mean evolution is fact.

I don't hate evolutionist, I just think they been duped by a lie perpetrated by an illusion. Anything to take the eyes off the TRUTH.

And as I've stated, I don't really care if you want to make a choice to believe in evolution, but please call it what it really is as I argue from a LOGICAL point of view, it's FAITH.

[eleni121]

You can "a maze" us with all your knowledge but bottom line is that

Evolutionists believe in spontaneous generation.

Or maybe biological substance came from another planet...yeah that's the ticket.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

What it amounts too is the creationists here are not capable of distinguishing Haeckel from Heckel and Jeckel, let alone von Baer.

[b_sharp]

"...but at least I'll hold onto some logic!!

What logic? Give me an example.

[balrog666]

Sufferin' succotash! Somebody's actually reading these threads?

[Free Baptist]

"It is all about fleecing the flock.

"Note that I didn't include the links for the [Bible Believers' Bookshop] in the public interest."

No problem -- we'll give you the URL -- www.biblebelievers.com

It is a great and very informative site.

"fleecing the flock? ?? The flock in this case includes BIBLE BELIEVERS. Bible believers already know where Kent Hovind is on target, and where he misses the mark. Kent Hovind, however, stays within reasonable bound of explaining particulars about the Creation miracle to which Bible-believers have adhered since Job's day. And the sons of Noah (especially through Shem) were telling the Genesis account of Creation all the way up to the time of the tower of Babel (Genesis 11), and afterwords.

When people departed the Plains of Mamre (Babel) headed east over the mountains to what is now China, they were still telling the accounts that they knew from Noah's children and grandchildren, including the account of the deluge that cut the Grand Canyon. And this is why very many of the Chinese characters are built from radicals based upon those very accounts, and they are still in the Chinese pictographs today.

The flock that sees Kent Hovind's materials, and purchases them consists of Christians who are already BELIEVERS in the literal truth of the Genesis Creation account, and were believers before Kent ever came around.

Really!! You are not concerned about the flock. You ridicule God's flock for believing Him.

[furball4paws]

Pasteur's a' comin' placemarker.

[Baraonda]

"Darwin lovers don't like to debate...every time they do, they lose. They would rather scream and yell and hide behind the status quo...hateful atheists ..."

They also love to digress and speak of things not germane to the discussion, eg, tax returns.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Evolutionists believe in spontaneous generation."

Only if you lie about what spontaneous generation is and what the ToE covers. If you do that, well, sure, evolutionists believe in SG. :)

[eleni121]

It's interesting to see evos' idea of having fun.

[andysandmikesmom]

Thanks...I am usually a little timid to post, but what the heck...tonite I am sipping on spiked eggnog, and have let my guard down a little...

[lemura]

What's wrong with you folks? Do you find reality that hard to take a good look at?

LOL. Bro, these guys are laughing all the way to the bank. It's like people who bray at the NYT, et al as if they are worthy of actual debate. At some point, you have to realize that operetors will fill a market niche if there is sufficient demand.

There are enough America haters for the MSM to serve an audience, and there are enough dunderheads for the crevo charlatans to cater to as well. Heck, given the free-market orientaton of this Web site, one would think that a few evo experts would jump in the fray try and write a breathless 'insiders' view of the horrible Darwin mandated curricula they are forced to follow.

The supreme irony would be that they could then take these ill gotten gains to finance further scientific study.

[sirchtruth]

Fact: when an observation is confirmed repeatedly and by many independent and competent observers, it can become a fact

How many witnesses have there been that have seen and bird evolve into a dinosaur or a fish evolve into a man?

How many? I gotta try that time travel machine you've got! Again, ignor my argument all you want, it doesn't change evolution into a factual occurance.

[longshadow]

Results would be locked for everyone to see forever.

Which is precisely why Hovind would NEVER agree to it. The fact of the matter is he could, anytime he wants, show up on FR, Panda's Thumb, or ony one of a dozen other websites that offer posting priviledges, and take on his detractors. The fact that he embraces the 30 second live soundbite "debate" format over a written format where BOTH sides would have the opportunity to do research before providing WRITTEN responses is very telling indeed: IOW, he's just a PUSSY.

[b_sharp]

If you are so sure that evolution is nothing but sci-fi, could you give me an example of which tenet(s) of the ToE you have trouble with.

[eleni121]

What a racket evos have...when one theory is found to be false, another theory is quickly postulated to cover the first error.

[sirchtruth]

Are you under the impression that the 'big bang' was an explosion?

Are you under the impression that life is just a meaningless chance? I won't guess where you must receive your knowledge...