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Bush will veto any bill to stop port deal
AP ALERT

Posted on 02/21/2006 12:32:20 PM PST by Brian Mosely

ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE (AP) — President Bush says the deal allowing an Arab company to take over six major U.S. seaports should go forward and he will veto any bill that would stop it.


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To: indcons

So what does it mean that Dubai gets this deal? Exactly how does it compromise our security? Please be as specific as you can.


1,401 posted on 02/21/2006 4:23:53 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: AmericanDave
Welcome to flatworld, If our enemies have enough buisness ties to us they won't attack us! IN THEORY!

Are you responding to my post 135 about "what next, outsourcing NORAD to the Chinese?"

1,402 posted on 02/21/2006 4:23:55 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: demlosers

Bush has to come clean.


1,403 posted on 02/21/2006 4:24:46 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: Pimpmygop
"Peons?? NOW you want Bush to listen to polls?"

I would hope that Bush would never make a decision based upon some bogus msm, liberal slanted poll. But when any poll accurately reflects the opinions of the American people who elected him, I would certainly hope he'd pay attention to us. (But you can bet your arse that he listens to those polls taken in hispanic communities as he panders to them for votes. This is why our border security is a joke, he doesn't want to lose hispanic votes).

Personally, I lost my high regard for President Bush when he let Terri Schiavo be starved to death, by claiming "I have no power to help her". A few days later, after she died he said in his speech about the abominable Terri Schiavo injustice:
"It is the duty of the strong to protect the weak".
So went the hypocritical words of the most powerful man on earth, echoing forever into the ears of Terri's greiving family, as they wondered why he couldn't find the courage to stand up and save her.

1,404 posted on 02/21/2006 4:25:12 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: pollyannaish

I predict that you'll end up learning your instincts are sound, and you need to give them the benefit of doubt instead of a political leader you wish was living up to your hopes.


1,405 posted on 02/21/2006 4:25:15 PM PST by Pelham ("Borders? We don' need no stinking borders!")
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To: oblomov

Who is the overweight dike with the beard? Just joking.


1,406 posted on 02/21/2006 4:25:55 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: Junior_G; F16Fighter

agreed, f16fighter is really crackin me up


1,407 posted on 02/21/2006 4:25:58 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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To: buffmonster; Howlin
I wish I could get drunk myself to get out of this nightmare Bush is making.

Go get drunk,newbie.You have my permission.

1,408 posted on 02/21/2006 4:26:09 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: traderrob6
Everyone needs to calm down. This company outbid everyone else on this deal. Security will not change one iota whether it's the old British owned company or this one. The Dubai company has a huge economic stake in keeping things kosher ie 6.2 billion dollar investment. The more I know about this the more comfortable I feel that there is nothing to be concerned about.

At this point, I have two concerns:

1) Can we be absolutely certain that our security has not been reduced as a result of this deal. For example, if the port management company were to gain knowledge of specific counter-terrorism methods, and if this knowledge were to be passed over the our emnemies, who might use such knowledge to circumvent out protections, so as to bring some bad stuff in via these ports?

2) This is certainly a political disaster for Bush and the Republicans, which is why the Republican congress critters are running away like scalded dogs, and will likely turn on bush in the interest of their own preservation. I see only downside for the Republicans in giving the Dims and the sycophant MSM a hammer with which to beat them senseless. Why put the party in greater risk of losing seats in November?

1,409 posted on 02/21/2006 4:27:02 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie, because he didn't bake one.)
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To: smoothsailing

Hey, you pickin on my drinking buddies?

(just trying to be a bit funny here, and probably failing miserably!)


1,410 posted on 02/21/2006 4:27:36 PM PST by jacquej
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To: DC Ripper

Yes, this would be the first time he has ever vetoed anything, and I am at a loss to explain this one.

OK, after listening to various talk shows today I understand that:

1) They're not going to CONTROL port security, they're just going to be leasing berths in the port. Port security is still going to be managed by the Port Authority and the Coast Guard

2) They're not bringing people over from UAE to take the jobs of loading/unloading. Americans will be filling those jobs. U.S. labor laws apply.

3) There is NO U.S. firm that does this sort of thing, and after the Brits let these leases go, they're out of that business, too

4) The company that is taking over has been vetted

5) It's a good thing, economically speaking

6) If they have an economic interest in the ports, they're not going to want to allow anything to happen that would jeopardize their ability to make money there.

But I still don't feel warm and fuzzy about this. I don't believe that Bush would deliberately do something that would put us in jeopardy, but even if the UAE has been a recent ally of ours in the war on terror, LEADERSHIP CHANGES.


1,411 posted on 02/21/2006 4:27:51 PM PST by Purrcival (Oh, Karl, you've done it again!)
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To: JCEccles
Dubai is not a terrorist state nor is it sympathetic to terrorists.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt. They have a really unique way of being harsh on terrorists. By raising money for them, and then giving that money to them.

1,412 posted on 02/21/2006 4:27:53 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
If this sale goes through and any terrorist action is ever associated with any transaction through these ports, Bush will deserve the impeachment the kooks are calling for.

Even though Americans control the security at the ports and the UAE company only controls the commercial operations?

1,413 posted on 02/21/2006 4:28:21 PM PST by jess35
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To: Flux Capacitor

Is that the famous "flux capacitor" of Back to the Future?


1,414 posted on 02/21/2006 4:28:35 PM PST by AmericanDave (More COWBELL....................)
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To: Junior_G
"I do believe it is standard practice to rationalize the genius of Dubya retroactively, in such a way that one's previous incorrect predictions simply become another part of the brilliant master plan."

Yeah, everything past, present, and future was/is/will be "strategery" no matter how, what or when Dubya does it.

1,415 posted on 02/21/2006 4:28:49 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: mdittmar
Political correctness is going to kill us. If our policy was that no foreign nation would ever secure our ports, no issue of bias could be raised. And it would sensible, especially in war. But bias or not the issue of national security trumps any hurt feelings, real or exaggerated, among anyone. It's what makes government, the necessary evil, necessary. It's why they're here. They have a monopoly of force in this country to portect it. They extract huge dollars from us in taxes, not for everything else they stick their noses into, but for precisely this.

No country that consistently polls belief that the US had 9/11 coming, or that we did it ourselves to start a war, should be allowed such access as this. That should include all of the Middle East, excluding Israel but including France.

1,416 posted on 02/21/2006 4:29:06 PM PST by kcar ( Torpedo it.)
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To: TheCrusader
Personally, I lost my high regard for President Bush when he let Terri Schiavo be starved to death,

That's when I lost faith in our ENTIRE government. When an ex probate judge in Florida has more power than the state Gov. congress, senate and the president, then we're left to fend for ourselves.

1,417 posted on 02/21/2006 4:29:15 PM PST by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: clawrence3
""Direct involvement" as in 2 of the 19 hijackers were from UAE?"

No, direct involvement as in all their laundered money and fake passports coming from inside the UAE, which was also their base of operations.

The FBI incriminated them in for having ties to al Queada, (as in FINANCING). The Italian anti-terror agency also incriminated the Sheikdom of Dubai as having financial (banking) ties to al Queada. These folks are not your friends.

1,418 posted on 02/21/2006 4:29:25 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: JCEccles

Be more specific???? Isn't the information we have right now disturbing enough? If it walks like a duck, etc.

Nice try at changing the topic. You didn't challenge any of my assertions though.


1,419 posted on 02/21/2006 4:29:31 PM PST by indcons
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To: DOGEY
Americans, like it or not, must conform to the concerns of the countries if they want to do business there.

Umm. I see. Stop being Americans to please some politicos pocket book and some 3rd world fanatic. Is that what we've come to? Is that what generations of Americans have bled and died for? I thank God I don't live in the same America that some of you think we "must conform" to.

1,420 posted on 02/21/2006 4:29:44 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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