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To: T'wit
all of these strands are part of something larger that we term the death cult or death culture. It does fit them all.

My Grandfather just died two days ago. His body was shutting down and decided he did not want to be put on life support. He lasted about 24 hours before passing. Does this mean he is part of a 'death cult' in your eyes?

The term is not necessarily pejorative. If you find it so, but want to be part of that movement without revealing your beliefs, suggest another name.

I am not even sure what 'that movement' is so I have no idea if I would want to be a part of it or not.

128 posted on 06/09/2006 10:35:27 AM PDT by killjoy (Same Shirt, Different Day)
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To: killjoy
>> Does this mean he is part of a 'death cult' in your eyes?

Cut the garbage.

>> I am not even sure what 'that movement' is so I have no idea if I would want to be a part of it or not.

Your choice. My only suggestion is that you read very, very deeply before you dip your feet in those waters. There are grave dangers in giving your energies and enthusiasms to the wrong philosophies.

129 posted on 06/09/2006 11:16:12 AM PDT by T'wit (Due process: Two lawyers obfuscating the truth to the satisfaction of a bureaucrat in black robes.)
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To: killjoy
My Grandfather just died two days ago. His body was shutting down and decided he did not want to be put on life support. He lasted about 24 hours before passing. Does this mean he is part of a 'death cult' in your eyes?

I'm so very sorry for your loss. Your grandfather made a wise decision in his case. It was his time. Did he happen to mention wanting to meet up with his wife? Both my mom and ex mother in law(ex bro in law told me this)stated it was time to be with their husbands. When this happens, it's time to fly home.

As for a blanket term for those who believe it is beneficial to institute euthanasia policies towards the disabled, how about nihilists? I'll try and come up with a couple of better ones, but my brain is in neutral this morning.

144 posted on 06/10/2006 7:17:43 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If you don't understand the word "Illegal", then the public school system has failed you.)
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To: killjoy
I am sorry about your grandfather. His and Terri's case are two very different cases.

I'll just mention a few of the difference: Terri never expressed the desire to die - this was fabricated years later after her estranged husband won the lawsuit for money for her rehabilitation. This estranged husband with a live-in mistress, illegitimate children, and a vested interest in her death was made her guardian. Experts were not permitted to examine her, and her medical records hidden. She was treated horribly while she still was alive. Judge Greer denied her due process - she never had a lawyer. Her parents weren't even allowed to photograph her, bring her flowers, or have normal visits with her. Then there were all the lies Michael told and the numerous laws that Judge Greer broke and has never been made accountable for. Michael tried to keep the parents from knowing where she was buried until he was ordered to do so by court. The list continues.

Terri's case was not a right to die case. It involved so much more. I recommend you read a short statement by Martin Katz on Terri Schiavo (The American Thinker, March 29, 2005) that explains it - it's also posted here on FR. Also, Mark Fuhrman has an excellent book called "The Silent Witness."

146 posted on 06/10/2006 8:02:36 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: killjoy
My Grandfather just died two days ago. His body was shutting down and decided he did not want to be put on life support. He lasted about 24 hours before passing. Does this mean he is part of a 'death cult' in your eyes?

Your grandfather declined life support because he was dying. Terri was denied food and water because she wasn't dying.

151 posted on 06/10/2006 9:22:04 AM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: killjoy
Sorry about your relative. There's a major difference between natural death and a forced exit. Nobody escapes natural death and we are fighting the death lobby who push euthanasia which is illegal in most states but practiced freely anyway.

The death lobby is aligned with activist judges like www.judgegeorgegreer.com and also with George Soros and the ACLU. We take the murder of innocents seriously around here whether they are public executions like Terri Schiavo's or whether someone is a victim behind closed doors.

Adolph Hitler had a T-4 program to exterminate the population that has similarities to new dogma and propaganda which is driven by profit - millions upon millions of dollars.

Modern day profiteering by making death is a big deal. It is MONEY DRIVEN.

FLORIDA IS THE STARVATION STATE.

152 posted on 06/10/2006 9:28:11 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org & Tom Gallagher 4 Fla Guv: www.tg2006.com)
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