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Top 10 Pot Studies Government Wished it Had Never Funded
freetheplant.com ^ | August 31st, 2006 | sonofliberty

Posted on 09/03/2006 12:42:40 PM PDT by atomic_dog

10) MARIJUANA USE HAS NO EFFECT ON MORTALITY: A massive study of California HMO members funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) found marijuana use caused no significant increase in mortality. Tobacco use was associated with increased risk of death. Sidney, S et al. Marijuana Use and Mortality. American Journal of Public Health. Vol. 87 No. 4, April 1997. p. 585-590. Sept. 2002.

9) HEAVY MARIJUANA USE AS A YOUNG ADULT WON’T RUIN YOUR LIFE: Veterans Affairs scientists looked at whether heavy marijuana use as a young adult caused long-term problems later, studying identical twins in which one twin had been a heavy marijuana user for a year or longer but had stopped at least one month before the study, while the second twin had used marijuana no more than five times ever. Marijuana use had no significant impact on physical or mental health care utilization, health-related quality of life, or current socio-demographic characteristics. Eisen SE et al. Does Marijuana Use Have Residual Adverse Effects on Self-Reported Health Measures, Socio-Demographics or Quality of Life? A Monozygotic Co-Twin Control Study in Men. Addiction. Vol. 97 No. 9. p.1083-1086. Sept. 1997

8) THE "GATEWAY EFFECT" MAY BE A MIRAGE: Marijuana is often called a "gateway drug" by supporters of prohibition, who point to statistical "associations" indicating that persons who use marijuana are more likely to eventually try hard drugs than those who never use marijuana — implying that marijuana use somehow causes hard drug use. But a model developed by RAND Corp. researcher Andrew Morral demonstrates that these associations can be explained "without requiring a gateway effect." More likely, this federally funded study suggests, some people simply have an underlying propensity to try drugs, and start with what’s most readily available. Morral AR, McCaffrey D and Paddock S. Reassessing the Marijuana Gateway Effect. Addiction. December 2002. p. 1493-1504.

7) PROHIBITION DOESN’T WORK (PART I): The White House had the National Research Council examine the data being gathered about drug use and the effects of U.S. drug policies. NRC concluded, "the nation possesses little information about the effectiveness of current drug policy, especially of drug law enforcement." And what data exist show "little apparent relationship between severity of sanctions prescribed for drug use and prevalence or frequency of use." In other words, there is no proof that prohibition — the cornerstone of U.S. drug policy for a century — reduces drug use. National Research Council. Informing America’s Policy on Illegal Drugs: What We Don’t Know Keeps Hurting Us. National Academy Press, 2001. p. 193.

6) PROHIBITION DOESN’T WORK (PART II: DOES PROHIBITION CAUSE THE "GATEWAY EFFECT"?): U.S. and Dutch researchers, supported in part by NIDA, compared marijuana users in San Francisco, where non-medical use remains illegal, to Amsterdam, where adults may possess and purchase small amounts of marijuana from regulated businesses. Looking at such parameters as frequency and quantity of use and age at onset of use, they found no differences except one: Lifetime use of hard drugs was significantly lower in Amsterdam, with its "tolerant" marijuana policies. For example, lifetime crack cocaine use was 4.5 times higher in San Francisco than Amsterdam. Reinarman, C, Cohen, PDA, and Kaal, HL. The Limited Relevance of Drug Policy: Cannabis in Amsterdam and San Francisco. American Journal of Public Health. Vol. 94, No. 5. May 2004. p. 836-842.

5) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER (PART I): Federal researchers implanted several types of cancer, including leukemia and lung cancers, in mice, then treated them with cannabinoids (unique, active components found in marijuana). THC and other cannabinoids shrank tumors and increased the mice’s lifespans. Munson, AE et al. Antineoplastic Activity of Cannabinoids. Journal of the National Cancer Institute. Sept. 1975. p. 597-602.

4) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER, (PART II): In a 1994 study the government tried to suppress, federal researchers gave mice and rats massive doses of THC, looking for cancers or other signs of toxicity. The rodents given THC lived longer and had fewer cancers, "in a dose-dependent manner" (i.e. the more THC they got, the fewer tumors). NTP Technical Report On The Toxicology And Carcinogenesis Studies Of 1-Trans- Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol, CAS No. 1972-08-3, In F344/N Rats And B6C3F(1) Mice, Gavage Studies. See also, "Medical Marijuana: Unpublished Federal Study Found THC-Treated Rats Lived Longer, Had Less Cancer," AIDS Treatment News no. 263, Jan. 17, 1997.

3) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER (PART III): Researchers at the Kaiser-Permanente HMO, funded by NIDA, followed 65,000 patients for nearly a decade, comparing cancer rates among non-smokers, tobacco smokers, and marijuana smokers. Tobacco smokers had massively higher rates of lung cancer and other cancers. Marijuana smokers who didn’t also use tobacco had no increase in risk of tobacco-related cancers or of cancer risk overall. In fact their rates of lung and most other cancers were slightly lower than non-smokers, though the difference did not reach statistical significance. Sidney, S. et al. Marijuana Use and Cancer Incidence (California, United States). Cancer Causes and Control. Vol. 8. Sept. 1997, p. 722-728.

2) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER (PART IV): Donald Tashkin, a UCLA researcher whose work is funded by NIDA, did a case-control study comparing 1,200 patients with lung, head and neck cancers to a matched group with no cancer. Even the heaviest marijuana smokers had no increased risk of cancer, and had somewhat lower cancer risk than non-smokers (tobacco smokers had a 20-fold increased lung cancer risk). Tashkin D. Marijuana Use and Lung Cancer: Results of a Case-Control Study. American Thoracic Society International Conference. May 23, 2006.

1) MARIJUANA DOES HAVE MEDICAL VALUE: In response to passage of California’s medical marijuana law, the White House had the Institute of Medicine (IOM) review the data on marijuana’s medical benefits and risks. The IOM concluded, "Nausea, appetite loss, pain and anxiety are all afflictions of wasting, and all can be mitigated by marijuana." While noting potential risks of smoking, the report added, "we acknowledge that there is no clear alternative for people suffering from chronic conditions that might be relieved by smoking marijuana, such as pain or AIDS wasting." The government’s refusal to acknowledge this finding caused co-author John A. Benson to tell the New York Times that the government "loves to ignore our report … they would rather it never happened." Joy, JE, Watson, SJ, and Benson, JA. Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base. National Academy Press. 1999. p. 159. See also, Harris, G. FDA Dismisses Medical Benefit From Marijuana. New York Times. Apr. 21, 2006


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To: ActionNewsBill
"The vast majority of those who argue against the War on Some Drugs do so from a perspective that it is an unconstitutional encroachment of basic liberties."

I haven't seen that argument made yet on this thread. But I'm only a third of the way through. Maybe someone will, huh?

241 posted on 09/15/2006 5:14:10 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Lady Jag

Oh my. Did you think marijuana was prohibited because it kills people?


242 posted on 09/15/2006 5:16:34 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: ActionNewsBill
"I counted six there, and plenty more at the link."

1,500,000 drug arrests each year. In seven years, that's over 10 million people arrested.

Drug raids are extremely dangerous. Though regrettable, six accidental deaths in 10 million arrests is not a pattern.

243 posted on 09/15/2006 5:25:00 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Has there been a new Amendment that I don't know about. If so, share with the class. Just please don't start another one of your idiot flame wars.

I really don't have the time today.

244 posted on 09/15/2006 6:29:34 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Quam terribilis est haec hora)
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To: robertpaulsen

Perhaps it's as simple as the user not wanting to smoke. Smoking is offensive to lots of people (including me). Maybe it's cleaner and easier to just drink your drugs.


245 posted on 09/15/2006 9:35:25 AM PDT by free_at_jsl.com
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To: Dead Corpse
You said the "war on alcohol" required an amendment. Do you have some new information you'd like to share, some information that supports that statement?

I was under the impression that the 18th amendment was desired, not required. After all, President Jefferson and his Secretary of State James Madison (who wrote the Commerce Clause), used the power of the Commerce Clause to prohibit alcohol sales to the Indian tribes in 1802.

Maybe these two Founding Fathers were confused about their power to regulate commerce, huh?

246 posted on 09/15/2006 10:36:51 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Do you have some new information you'd like to share, some information that supports that statement?

Don't be an idiot.

Also, you are still confused about the term "regulating" and the term "prohibiting". One allows action while the other stops it. Until you understand the difference, STFU.

247 posted on 09/15/2006 10:48:50 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Quam terribilis est haec hora)
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To: free_at_jsl.com
"Perhaps it's as simple as the user not wanting to smoke."

Nah, lots of kids smoke cigarettes. I say they prefer to drink (rather than smoke pot) because drinking is legal and socially acceptable.

248 posted on 09/15/2006 10:50:05 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Dead Corpse
"Until you understand the difference, STFU."

The 'power to regulate commerce,' here meant to be granted, was that power to regulate commerce which previously existed in the States. But what was that power? The States were, unquestionably, supreme; and each possessed that power over commerce, which is acknowledged to reside in every sovereign State. The definition and limits of that power are to be sought among the features of international law; and, as it was not only admitted, but insisted on by both parties, in argument, that, 'unaffected by a state of war, by treaties, or by municipal regulations, all commerce among independent States was legitimate,' there is no necessity to appeal to the oracles of the jus commune for the correctness of that doctrine. The law of nations, regarding man as a social animal, pronounces all commerce legitimate in a state of peace, until prohibited by positive law. The power of a sovereign state over commerce, therefore, amounts to nothing more than a power to limit and restrain it at pleasure. And since the power to prescribe the limits to its freedom, necessarily implies the power to determine what shall remain unrestrained, it follows, that the power must be exclusive; it can reside but in one potentate; and hence, the grant of this power carries with it the whole subject, leaving nothing for the State to act upon.
-- Gibbons v Ogden, 22 U.S. 1 (1824)

This landmark case was decided in Chief Justice (and Founding Father) John Marshall's U.S. Supreme Court.

249 posted on 09/15/2006 11:09:30 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Oh jesus... not another "Marshall walked on water" type.

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=3295

250 posted on 09/15/2006 12:43:16 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Quam terribilis est haec hora)
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To: atomic_dog

How would you like your tax dollars taken from you to provide healthcare, drugs, rehab, welfare etc. to drug user? If we legalized anything today that would happen. Dismantle the welfare state first, then come back to me about legalization.


251 posted on 09/15/2006 12:45:41 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Dead Corpse

Oh, by all means. Let's give preference to the opinion of a 21st century economist over a Founding Father and Chief Justice to the U.S. Supreme Court when it comes to defining the meaning of the word "to regulate" in the Commerce Clause.


252 posted on 09/15/2006 12:58:53 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Chief Justice, yes. Where do you guys keep coming up with "Founding Father"? Can you point to where he debated ANYTHING in one of the Convetions? He wasn't even a Representitive until 1799.

Redefining and Expanding the Courts role beyond it's designed limits while the ink on the Constitution was still drying is hardly a noteworthy accomplishment.

253 posted on 09/15/2006 2:24:31 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Quam terribilis est haec hora)
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To: Dead Corpse

Gibbons v. Ogden was a unanimous decision of the United States Supreme Court.

Chief Justice John Marshall, the chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, nominated by President John Adams, was joined in that unanimous decision by:

Justice William Johnson, who was nominated by President Thomas Jefferson.

Justice Thomas Todd, who served in the Revolutionary War at age 16 and was nominated by President Thomas Jefferson.

Justice Gabriel Duvall, who was nominated by President James Madison.

Justice Joseph Story, author of the revered Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, who was nominated by President James Madison.

Justice Smith Thompson, who was nominated by President James Monroe.

Justice Bushrod Washington, the nephew of George Washington, who was nominated by President John Adams.

Poor you.


254 posted on 09/15/2006 8:19:06 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Dead Corpse
"Redefining and Expanding the Courts role"

The landmark case, Gibbons v Ogden, defined the Commerce Clause not redefined it (unless you can find an earlier definition). I would much rather the courts determine the original meaning than the original intent.

255 posted on 09/16/2006 5:14:52 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Dead Corpse
Nothing will ever shut up those who insist that the word 'prohibit' means the same as 'regulate'.


"-- For the fact that they do so is proof positive that their argument is false, and proof presumptive that they know it is.
... Those who treasure the meaning of words, will treasure truth, and those who bend words to their purposes are very likely in pursuit of anti-social ones. The correct and honorable use of words is the first and natural credential of civilized status. --"

Historian Paul Johnson wrote the above while observing: "-- Beware of those who seek to win an argument at the expense of the language. --"
256 posted on 09/16/2006 12:24:09 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: robertpaulsen
"The power of a sovereign state over commerce, therefore, amounts to nothing more than a power to limit and restrain it at pleasure."

Restrain?! Why didn't the Supreme Court appointments of Thomas Jefferson and James Madison realize that prohibitions are unconstimatushunal!

257 posted on 09/16/2006 1:55:46 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: robertpaulsen
The commerce clause was already defined by those who debated the addition of the clause. What your judicial hero's did was to go and CHANGE that definition.

You can run from it, but you cannot hide.

258 posted on 09/17/2006 7:52:07 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Quam terribilis est haec hora)
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To: Dead Corpse
"The commerce clause was already defined by those who debated the addition of the clause."

It seems to me that if they wanted the Commerce Clause limited to removing restrictions to trade among the several states they would have worded it differently. Something like, "Congress has the power to remove restrictions to trade among the several states".

Ya think?

259 posted on 09/17/2006 8:39:05 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Regulate- to make regular.

Has no connotations of PROHIBITING commerce. Especially at a time when interstate tariffs and trade barriers were a serious issue? Come on... let's not be ridiculous.

260 posted on 09/18/2006 8:17:50 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Quam terribilis est haec hora)
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