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One in Four Smokers Will Get Lung Disease
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Posted on 10/17/2006 1:09:34 PM PDT by trumandogz

TUESDAY, Oct. 17 (HealthDay News) -- A new study finds that at least 1 in every 4 smokers will develop progressive and incurable chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), a much higher risk than previously believed.

COPD is a respiratory disease that results in blocked air flow to the lungs and grows progressively worse.

For this study, published online in the journal Thorax, researchers at Hvidovre Hospital analyzed data on 8,000 men and women, ages 30 to 60. All were monitored for 25 years as part of the Copenhagen City Heart Study.

At the start of the study, all the participants' lungs were healthy and working normally. However, over the course of the 25 years, the lungs of almost all the male non-smokers continued to function normally, compared to 60 percent of men who continued to smoke.

Among women, 90 percent of non-smokers still had healthy lungs at the end of 25 years, compared to 70 percent of smokers.

Overall, 25 percent of the participants developed moderate or severe COPD over the 25 years. Persistent smokers were six times more likely to develop COPD than non-smokers.

During the 25 years, there were 2,900 deaths in the study group. Of those deaths, 109 were directly attributable to COPD, and nearly all those deaths were in people who were active smokers at the start of the study. Only two non-smokers died of COPD.

The study also found a sharp decline in the risk of COPD among people who stopped smoking soon after the start of the study. Over the 25 years, none of these ex-smokers developed severe COPD.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: addiction; buttlist; denial; dontinhale; humanashtrays; nicotine; puff; pufflist; smoke; smoking; tobacco; tobaccoaddicts
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To: Rakkasan1
Got data?
121 posted on 10/17/2006 3:42:07 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: Toby06
LOL!!!

You rock!!

122 posted on 10/17/2006 3:43:05 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: Toby06
Recent studies have confirmed the existence of a dangerous strain of disease that has a 100% mortality rate.

Research is currently being conducted into the disease, currently known as "Life" and methods to eradicate it.
123 posted on 10/17/2006 3:47:08 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; Judith Anne; lockjaw02; Mears; CSM; ...
So 25% get COPD and out of that 25% how many die from it?

Reread the article.

124 posted on 10/17/2006 3:48:04 PM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Baynative
I say ; "anyone born after 1960 should not be eligible for any medical subsistance related to nicotine if they CHOOSE to kill themselves after all the publicity smoking has gotten over the years."

Great idea, along with "anyone born after 1960 should not be eligible for any medical subsistance (sic) related to eating if they are fat if they CHOOSE to kill themselves after all the publicity about overeating has gotten over the years."

And, "anyone born after 1960 should not be eligible for any medical subsistance (sic) related to heart conditions or diabetes if they CHOOSE to kill themselves after all the publicity on lack of exercise, being overweight and eating properly has gotten over the years."

This list could go on and on. Give people in all health categories a break--we are all going to die, it is a matter of picking your poison.

Not to worry, designer babies are on the horizon and diseases will be selected out. A real conservative mind-set.

125 posted on 10/17/2006 3:50:43 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: Trampled by Lambs
Sorry to hear of your MIL......

I would suggest to you that there are many forms of COPD....and that your MIL more than likely had an infection/pneumonia...that caused excess secretions..and/or she had an inability to clear her own secretions.

Unfortunately I have treated many end-stage COPD'ers...and it can actually be a fairly "easy" way to go. The pt. often enough just can not ventilate effectively and their CO2 level climbs until they are basically unaware of what is happening....They just "go to sleep".

So, in my experience...it's not exactly as you have described.

FWIW-

126 posted on 10/17/2006 3:53:43 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Got data?


127 posted on 10/17/2006 3:54:43 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: Toby06
Just had a 5 Vegas Gold......

Smooth!!

You should try one....!!

128 posted on 10/17/2006 3:57:09 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: Alter Kaker
You could put a bullet into the chamber of a revolver, spin the chamber, cock the hammer and pull the trigger, and you'd still be making a healthier choice than you sorry bunch of consumptive addicts. Not the healthiest thing to do? That's an understatement of the likes even Baghdad Bob would be ashamed of.

You win!!

About the most moronic post I've read in months............

129 posted on 10/17/2006 4:00:12 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: Osage Orange
Unfortunately I have treated many end-stage COPD'ers...and it can actually be a fairly "easy" way to go. The pt. often enough just can not ventilate effectively and their CO2 level climbs until they are basically unaware of what is happening....They just "go to sleep".

I can only hope this was the case for my father. He told my mother it was ok to go home. She had been at the house maybe 10 minutes after a 5 minute drive there, when the hospital called. I think he knew.

130 posted on 10/17/2006 4:01:01 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( I am sitting under my cone of silence, inside a copper wire cage wearing a tin foil hat...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Sorry to hear my friend.....

You would be surprised how often a loved one is told to go......and the pt. passes away after they have left.

Happens a lot.....

131 posted on 10/17/2006 4:03:47 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: Toby06

Yup.


132 posted on 10/17/2006 4:06:33 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: Old Professer
If you crossed the street 20-60 times a day for 25 years your risk of dying from being hit by a car would go way up.

Nah, the Nanny's would moan and groan about the choices these unworthy people made to cross the street so many times claiming they are not worthy of care because of their choice. Then they would lobby to get laws past telling you where to cross the street and how many times.

I thought FR was a conservative web-site.

133 posted on 10/17/2006 4:12:12 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: trumandogz
Image hosted by Photobucket.com i know, my post was to the author...

i don't say smoking is good for you, i just don't think it's as bas as they say it is.

p.s. i smoked Lucky's for over ten years before i quit.

134 posted on 10/17/2006 4:16:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Baynative
I say ; "anyone born after 1960 should not be eligible for any medical subsistance related to nicotine if they CHOOSE to kill themselves after all the publicity smoking has gotten over the years."

I say: Anyone with that type attitude needs to refund all the excess taxes smokers have paid....and until they do they need to kep their mouths SHUT.

Oh, and BTW - if nicotine is your problem, I suggest you stay aways from tomatoes and peppers and eggplant and the rest of the fruits and veggies that are members of the nightshade family.

135 posted on 10/17/2006 4:55:23 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: wagglebee; SheLion

"Which means that 75% NEVER HAVE A PROBLEM, so why not report it that way?!"




Good for you. Your interpretation (and mine) will never see the light of day,

The public brainwashing by the anti-smokers continues.


137 posted on 10/17/2006 5:40:39 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Paco
With that logic, just strap a bomb to your back and get it over with. Better yet, grab some leaves, roll them up in some paper, start it on fire and breathe it. Smoking is SOOOO COOOL!!! (Sarcasm off...)

I enjoy partaking in natures gifts of tobacco & beer, not bombs you stupid fool! Also, i don't do stuff like smoking to be cool. You must, though, to try to make up for some shortcoming, based on your weak logic.

138 posted on 10/17/2006 5:43:07 PM PDT by Toby06
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To: Toby06

I totally agree with you, and generally I do - but there are just times when I get totally fed up with the bovine excrement they continuously put out, that the DBM sucks up and regurgitates and the sheeple accept as gospel.


139 posted on 10/17/2006 5:52:56 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: Osage Orange
Got data?

What kind of data? Conclusively linking lung cancer to smoking? You tell me what you want, I'll get it for you.

140 posted on 10/17/2006 5:52:58 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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