Dinosaurs, humans coexist in U.S. creation museum

Reuters ^ | 1 hour, 39 minutes ago | Andrea Hopkins

[Central Scrutiniser]

Nice words, but you offer no proof, no science no peer reviewed data, etc.

Just dogmatic belief.

Which is fine, if you want to have faith in something, go ahead. Just don't enforce your faith based dogmatic pseudoscience on innocent kids in public school under the rubric of science.

[zylphed]

40% of the human genome encodes things called retroelements, which are pretty much all essentially dead viruses that have inserted themselves into our genome. <5% of the human genome encodes the proteins/miRNAs/snRNAs/etc. that form us as organisms. If the human genome, at least, is proof of an author, it's proof of an author that likes parasites a lot more than it likes us.

[Central Scrutiniser]

It was a MAJOR meeting of scientists!!!!!!

Show me the names, and the resumes of the people, as well as the dates and where the "scientists" are now.

Second hand tales of something you believe to be important hold no weight with me.

And, what about the courts? You neglected that. Dover, lost by creationists, the case of the stickers in books, lost by creationists, etc.

Face it, creationism is a christian belief, which is fine in a christian school teaching christianity, but its not OK in a public school.

[Central Scrutiniser]

While you're at it- poo poo darwin as well because he ALSO came to the same conclusion that evolution had no legs to stand on and that it couldn't even evolve any to stand on.

Really? Wish to share the proof behid that? Darwin came to the conclusion that evolution was wrong? Pray tell, I want to know about that, please teach us all about that.

[zylphed]

The idea proposed initially by Lynn Margulis of how eukaryotes came to exist was that a large anaerobic bacterium engulfed a smaller aerobic bacterium. The aerobic bacterium was capable of converting the energy in reduced carbon compounds to ATP at a much higher rate than anaerobic bacterium. So the larger bacterium got the benefit of much more energy for each molecule (sugar, typically) that it "ate." The smaller bacterium got the benefit of protection from predators. This was a mutually beneficial relationship and not parasitism.

And I don't think that endosymbiosis (mitochondrion/chloroplasts/protonuclei) leads to necessarily a separate species initially, but only because it is incredibly hard to define "species" in the absence of sexual reproduction. Essentially, each separate bacterium (and there are something like 5x10^30 bacteria in the world) forms its own "species," as there is reproductive isolation between each bacterium.

Also, maybe you would like to define "eukaryote", because I am not entirely sure why you think that you are not a eukaryote.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

You mean the Cincinnatti airport that is in KY?

LOL I used to live in No. Ky.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

Why couldn't it all have been created in ten seconds?

[RunningWolf]

Apparently the Google god has spoken. I don't think Google has domain to any sort of petrification instant or otrherwise, but org whodat may be making a good case against search engine monopoly's.

W.

[Kozak]

What created God? If nothing did, than why should I believe that there is a God that created everything, especially in a simplistic way that flies in the face of the fossil record, carbon dating, and evolutionary science?

Hey, I don't think you should. I think I should have added some sarcasm tags along the way to make myself clearer.

My personal belief is in a creator who designed the universe with physical laws that are consistant. I see no fundamental problem with a creator and a belief in evolution.

[LiteKeeper]

Yeah, that one...:-)

[RunningWolf]

Whatever flaws there are, exist only in our mortal and therefor limited perceptions of what is within the horizon's of our vision.

Wolf

[esoxmagnum]

"I know several Catholic priests that know science, teach evolution and are not so weak in faith that they allow their dogma to refuse science."

Could you supply me names please of these priests? And what archdiocese they belong to so I can report them to the Vatican? If they are teaching evolution they are as much a priest as Greeley is.

If you are so "sure" in your evolution/psuedo Catholic faith then you will surely provide me with their names, because after all they are speaking the word of the Vatican and are in the right, and by me reporting them to higher authorities, I would be doing them a service. Correct?

I'll take their names please.

[esoxmagnum]

BTW, here is a good read for you and your Greely-like priests. I think they may need a workshop or two from their bishop. In any case the stance of the Catholic Church is still that God created Heaven and Earth. That is not a fable to my church, the Catholic Church of Rome, it is a tenet and an anchor to our beliefs. I am amazed that you preach differently and call yourself a Catholic and claim to know Catholic scholars (teachers, priest, etc) who are in disagreement with that basic tenement.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04470a.htm

You are neither a Catholic as you claim to be, nor is it likely that you know any priests who teach that we were evolved from a big bang, carbon electric emulsification that created single cell organisms.

The Catholic Church does not teach, nor does it ordain priests who teach that we have evolved from single cell creatures, apes, monkeys, or the like.

Your rogue teachers may have, but it is more likely you went to some pseudo church, without direct advocate from the Vatican, and the teachers there (self collared or whatnot) may have taught you whatever their hippie upbringing lent them to.

All Catholics sin, and all Catholics are imperfect, but they must come to the realization and repentance of such acts. I'm sure, if as you state, your Catholic professors are so sure in their faith that they will not be squeamish about being reported for their infraction upon the Church. After all, confession, and atonement are also centrifugal to our teachings.

[RaceBannon]

As it should be

[RaceBannon]

Especially the fantasy that we evolved from a single cell and that we are related to oak trees.

[samtheman]

While foreign media and science critics have mostly come to snigger at exhibits explaining how baby dinosaurs fit on Noah's Ark

Baby dinos in Noah's Ark? Pardon me while I snigger.

[samtheman]

"I don't think it's going to be forcing any viewpoint on them, but challenging them to think critically about their evolutionary views," said Manto, who studied classical sculpture...

I guess it was during her studies of classical sculpture that she learned to think critically about evolution.

[UpAllNight]

-actually the facts I just posted about the amazing dna code very much supports creation theory. --

You posted no facts. DNA supports evolution.

[samtheman]

Looy is upfront about the museum's mission: to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ with nonbelievers.

Question for those who actually know something about the Gospel of Jesus Christ (a group which, I suspect, does not include Looy):

Did Jesus Christ personally preach anything specific about the age of the earth? If You claim He did, please cite chapter and verse. And don't embarrass Yourself by citing vague generalities. If He really didn't mention the subject (which I suspect is the case, although I admit I don't know), please be Man or Woman enough to admit it.

[Wormwood]

Baby dinos in Noah's Ark? Pardon me while I snigger.