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Yes, Rudy Giuliani Is a Conservative
City Journal ^ | Jan.25, '07 | Steven Malanga

Posted on 01/30/2007 4:43:23 PM PST by T.L.Sink

Personally, I prefer Tancredo although I admire "America's Mayor," and this article sheds some light on Rudy's little known conservative and courageous accomplishments.


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KEYWORDS: giuliani; giuliani2008; malanga; rudy
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To: BunnySlippers

Thank you for the head's up.


181 posted on 01/30/2007 6:06:39 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Howlin
Sorry, Howlin. I saw something that was of your specific interest, did not make any comment, just drew your attention to it.

Apparently you will exploit any display of good will to make a point. Which is precisely why I don't wish you to post to me any longer. I won't make such a mistake again.

182 posted on 01/30/2007 6:06:43 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08 - rationalization not required, he IS a conservative already)
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To: narses

It is against forum rules to CONTINUALLY post the same crap on thread after thread.


183 posted on 01/30/2007 6:06:48 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Melas

I am not the one who brought the Admin Moderator into the argument. I copied them because they were on the post I replied to. If anyone is crying, it is the liberal hijackers on this conservative website.


184 posted on 01/30/2007 6:07:05 PM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: TommyDale

Posting factual refutations of the lies spouted by those claiming Rudy is a conservative is NOT spam. They are FACTS.


185 posted on 01/30/2007 6:07:11 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: Bishop_Malachi
Even though electing someone other than Giuliani increases the likelyhood that we will lose the general election

No, the history of the GOP over the past 30 years makes it clear: social liberals lose (think Gerald Ford); social conservatives win (think Ronald Reagan).

186 posted on 01/30/2007 6:07:51 PM PST by freedomdefender
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To: TommyDale

STFU, Tommy Dale.


187 posted on 01/30/2007 6:07:57 PM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: Hambone02
Will you support Hunter if he defeats Rudy?

In all likelihood, yes. Unless there is really something dark and dirty about the primary winner I can't stand, I'm going to vote for the GOP nominee. Now if Hunter ran a mudlslinging campaign against my candidate of choice, or something else to garner my personal ire I'd have to reconsider. Other than that, yep.

188 posted on 01/30/2007 6:08:13 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: freedomdefender
So Reagan wouldn't win today?

Uh, he's dead.

189 posted on 01/30/2007 6:08:51 PM PST by Rudder
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To: freedomdefender
Is that what they call Reaganites these days?

Don't you wish. Try not to wrap yourself in Reagan; he must be rolling over in his grave with what is going on on this web site with all these attacks on GOP candidates.

190 posted on 01/30/2007 6:08:53 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Jim Noble

OTOH conservatives do NOT favor abortion on demand (especially not the barbaric partial-birth type), they rarely offer to pay for their daughter's abortion, they rarely support gun control and illegal immigration isn't popular with them either. Rudy is a LIBERAL babykiller.


191 posted on 01/30/2007 6:10:00 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: freedomdefender

My argument is not that we need a social liberal to win. No one else is making that argument.

The more sober individuals here are noting that none of Republican heavyweights this election are social conservatives. That's life. As Rumsfeld put it, you go to war with the army you have, not the army you would like to have in the future.

The benefit of Giuliani is that he will not only give us 80% of what we want, but he will completely wipe out the Dems and give us Congress back. Run someone like Tancredo, we may actually lose more seats in 2008. A strong national ticket also has the effect of emboldening conservatives at the state and local level. While a weak candidate like Hunter means Republicans will be more timid and more compromising with the Democrats, given Hillary or Osama Obama will be stomping him by 20 pts and they'll be afraid of losing their seats.


192 posted on 01/30/2007 6:10:20 PM PST by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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To: Howlin; dirtboy

Goodlord! You two sound like my kids sitting in the back seat of the truck! Daddy! he touched me! Don't touch me! You touched me! WAAA WAAA WAAA! LOL


193 posted on 01/30/2007 6:10:21 PM PST by Hambone02 (USAF AMMO IYAAYAS)
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To: EveningStar

And yet you would surely label me a "100 percenter."


194 posted on 01/30/2007 6:10:25 PM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: dirtboy
If you Rudybashers had kept a steady, nasty, propagandist drumbeat up, for month after month after month, you would never have gotten responded to in kind. Did you expect everyone else to just shut up and take the filth and lies and
propaganda and innuendo being posted by a handful, on every single thread?
195 posted on 01/30/2007 6:10:26 PM PST by nopardons
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To: dirtboy
Apparently you will exploit any display of good will to make a point.

If you do say so yourself?

Please. We have had this discussion TOO! I never post to you and you ALWAYS post to me when I AGREE WITH YOU.

Try not to show yourself as such a prig.

196 posted on 01/30/2007 6:10:33 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: nopardons
If you Rudybashers had kept a steady, nasty, propagandist drumbeat up

Propagandist?

We've made factual posts. You don't like the facts.

197 posted on 01/30/2007 6:11:00 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08 - rationalization not required, he IS a conservative already)
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To: narses

Hey Narse...we are at war. What is your plan?


198 posted on 01/30/2007 6:11:07 PM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: Hambone02

Frankly, I'm sick of the holier than thous on here.

I'm just proving a point.


199 posted on 01/30/2007 6:11:25 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Sloth

I haven't and I wouldn't unless I was certain you fit that role.


200 posted on 01/30/2007 6:11:36 PM PST by EveningStar
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