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Yes, Rudy Giuliani Is a Conservative
City Journal ^ | Jan.25, '07 | Steven Malanga

Posted on 01/30/2007 4:43:23 PM PST by T.L.Sink

Personally, I prefer Tancredo although I admire "America's Mayor," and this article sheds some light on Rudy's little known conservative and courageous accomplishments.


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To: Plains Drifter

Hey, at least this time I didn't call Giuliani "Giussolini" or a "gun-grabbing abortionist". He's still a liberal.


21 posted on 01/30/2007 4:57:37 PM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: All

Exactly why Republicans are losing ground ... because some argue that Rudy is conservative. I don't need The American Spectator or City Journal to tell me that they think Rudy is conservative deep down somewhere. I have listened to Rudy himself about what Rudy believes ... and he is no conservative IMHO.


22 posted on 01/30/2007 4:58:19 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Following Dinkins would have made anyone seem conservative.

Except that Rudy took away guns from long-time permit holders in NYC that Dinkins never tried to take away.

24 posted on 01/30/2007 4:59:34 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08 - rationalization not required, he IS a conservative already)
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To: TommyDale

Rudy lines up with Joe Lieberman. Not quite crazy wacko leftist, but far from conservative.


25 posted on 01/30/2007 4:59:35 PM PST by Hambone02 (USAF AMMO IYAAYAS)
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To: jwalsh07
How does a man write a two million word essay on Rudy Guliani's erstwhile conservatism while ignoring the issues of gun control, abortion and illegals?

(1) Gun control was already NYC policy; Rudy cracked down on the felons illegally owning guns. If you think he's going to suddenly ban guns as President you are simply crazy
(2) Abortions declined under Rudy as he kicked the losers off of the welfare rolls, which made single women more responsible. As Mayor, he didn't enact any abortion policies
(3) Illegal immigration - There weren't hordes of illegal aliens living in NYC at the time, particularily from Mexico. Although Rudy's decision was flawed, he was simply trying to protect the rich cultural heritage of NYC.

26 posted on 01/30/2007 4:59:45 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Forgot your tagline? Click here to have it resent!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
I have listened to Rudy himself about what Rudy believes ... and he is no conservative IMHO.

You know, after reading your angry screed, I'd say you're Just A Dumb Blonde.

27 posted on 01/30/2007 5:00:37 PM PST by zarf (Giuliani/Huckabee 2008)
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To: DocH

That just ain't right


28 posted on 01/30/2007 5:01:03 PM PST by Hambone02 (USAF AMMO IYAAYAS)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Pro-Homo Agenda?


29 posted on 01/30/2007 5:02:12 PM PST by Hambone02 (USAF AMMO IYAAYAS)
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To: IronJack

"But ... but ... you have to be willing to compromise! It doesn't matter if what you're compromising comprises the core of the ideology. As long as you get someone elected who has an "R" behind his name. He could be Chuck Hagel. Or John McCain. Heck, he could be Hillary Clinton if she'd change her party affiliation."

Hillary Clinton is precisely what you will get if you don't compromise. And watch her appoint some of the most liberal judges in the country to the Supreme Court instead of the moderately conservative to conservative judges Rudy will likely appoint.

Honestly, if people such as yourself on this board stand by their current position and vote for someone like Duncan Hunter in the primaries, you will be doing Rudy a favor because he will get the moderate Republican votes.


30 posted on 01/30/2007 5:02:42 PM PST by MittFan08 (Romney or Giuliani will beat Hillary; McCain will not)
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To: PatrickF4
Not necessarily by definition... but that kind of conservative winds up being tightfisted, amoral, and not worthy of consideration.

Examples?

I have seen no more evidence of this than I see that all religious conservatives are secretly homosexual pervs and/or stealing their constituents' money, just because some are.

I suspect it's more about religious conservatives not wanting non-religious ones to get a foothold and be seen as something other than boogeymen.

31 posted on 01/30/2007 5:03:16 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Republican, Bostonian, Bush supporter, atheist, pro-lifer)
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To: TommyDale
He is pro-abortion, pro-partial birth abortion, pro-gun control, pro amnesty for illegal border invaders, pro-stem cell research with infants, and pro-homosexual agenda.

Be that as it may, you're still going to have to vote for him if he ends up the nominee.

32 posted on 01/30/2007 5:05:04 PM PST by ErnBatavia (recent nightmare: Googled up "Helen Thomas nude"....)
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To: T.L.Sink

Want to see what a real conservative looks like? Click the link.

http://www.issues2002.org/CA/Duncan_Hunter.htm


Sorry, but Rudy ain't it.


33 posted on 01/30/2007 5:05:33 PM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: T.L.Sink

What is a conservative, these days?


34 posted on 01/30/2007 5:05:44 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: TommyDale
The GOP elite apparently has already decided to paint JulieAnnie as the party's Conservative Chameleon D'jour.
35 posted on 01/30/2007 5:06:13 PM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Hambone02
That just ain't right

Neither is a liberal northeastern-corridor RINO being a FRONT RUNNER as a REPUBLICAN presidential candidate.

36 posted on 01/30/2007 5:06:23 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: Darkwolf377

I'm not voting for him. Period.


37 posted on 01/30/2007 5:07:15 PM PST by PatrickF4 (Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought. - JP II)
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To: DocH
Keep it going...

'DocH' IS NOT offensive.

38 posted on 01/30/2007 5:07:49 PM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: ErnBatavia; TommyDale
"Be that as it may, you're still going to have to vote for him if he ends up the nominee."

Or else the GOP will fall on its arse.

39 posted on 01/30/2007 5:07:52 PM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Abortions declined nationwide since 1992. Rudy Giuliani had nothing to do with the decline. In fact, he said he would pay for his own daughter to have one.


40 posted on 01/30/2007 5:08:03 PM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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