Posted on 04/02/2007 8:46:24 AM PDT by ventanax5
Mayor Mike Bloomberg has the chance to transform not just New York, but all American cities, by breaking the taboo on talking about the connection between race and crime. Doing so would take courage that no politician has yet mustered. But after the manslaughter and assault indictments of three New York police officers for fatally shooting Sean Bell last November, Bloomberg has an opening: acknowledge that police officers may react too precipitously to perceived threats in charged urban settings, in exchange for a wide-open discussion about the sky-high black crime rates that encourage that reaction. Crime, not police racism, drives negative police-community relations in black neighborhoods. And until the crime rate comes down, tragedies like the Sean Bell shooting may reoccur.
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I live in VA Beach Virginia and a local controversy here has revolved around the former Vice Mayor complaining that white cops were killing to many blacks. One of the local TV stations did a survey of the murders committed the previous year. What they found:
Murders in Norfolk 191
Blacks Murdered in Norfolk 168
Murders committed by blacks 88% (169)
Number of blacks killed by white cops 1
I've just about stopped watching the first 15 minutes of the local news...it's just 2 or 3 stories about some young black male killed by another young black male.
" ... breaking the taboo on talking about the connection between race and crime. "
Why are we as a society so stupid? There is no connection between RACE and crime, there's a connection between CULTURE and crime! A black child raised in the same setting as a white child has no more propensity toward violence than the white child. (Allowing for individual variances of course. Some kids are more aggressive than others regardless of race).
And thats just the murders.. Wonder what Detroit's statistics are.. Chicago, L.A., Atlanta, etc..
Liberals are quick to point out that poverty breeds crime and more blacks live in poverty, but they won't make the logical deduction blacks commit more crimes. Racism has nothing to do with it. Political correctness forces the denial of many simple truths that ultimately perpetuates the evils for which political correctness is the supposed cure.
Thank you for drawing everyone's attention to that. We have a tendency on this site as in the broader society of equating "black" with "poor, inner-city, culturally bankrupt, criminal." Yet there are millions upon millions of middle-class black people who are raising their children right and don't live in the ghetto. Criminality has nothing to do with color. It has everything to do with culture. And inner-city white kids in Britain raised in conditions of depravity have the same tendency to criminal behavior as black kids here.
"Isnora and his colleagues knew the following, when they saw a car racing toward them whose occupants they believed could have guns:"
How big is that parking lot?
True. But until "black neighborhoods" begin taking responsibility for their actions and stop blaming the crimes they commit on the color of their skin, nothing will change - Including the rapidly growing number of black racists.
The war on crime is failing. Time to redeploy out of the cities.
Way ahead of you..
Blacks committ about 80-85% of all crimes in the US, and the percentage would be much higher if we didn't lock up these thugs.
"There is no connection between RACE and crime"
BS!
The connection is very clear.
Blacks committ a very highly disproportionate number of crimes in all categories. In some cities they committ about 90% of the crimes even though they are a minority.
The opening ploy for a huge spending plan.
Maybe not... but their feeling it other ways. Cops, under direction of their unions and the politicians will avoid the high-violence/high-crime areas in order to focus on 'safer' locations to police. Locations that bring in revenue through fines and citations... rather than drain resources in neighborhoods that are crime-ridden... but broke.
"Isn't that the same as saying that all dogs temperament's are the same regardless of breed? Are not "race" and "breed" the same in this context?"
Absolutely, positively not. What I was pointing out is if I have 2 kids, their temperment can be very much different. It's not a race issue, it's individual makeup. 2 kids, same DNA, same upbringing, different temperment. Happens all the time.
Black people were bred. No doubt. And I do believe we can breed humans for traits, just as we can other creatures. Blacks were NOT bred for aggression. Furthermore, blacks haven't been bred for many generations, 7 or 8 at least? We consider a dog what is has one non-breed parent to be a mutt. I am a mutt. I think at this point, blacks are mutts. I mean that in a good way. Being a "mutt" means you have a random distribution of characteristics in your bloodline.
Blacks are not more prone to violence as a RACE. To believe that is racist. Those who benefit from racial tensions color it as a race issue. It's a CULTURE issue.
Bump
Possibly, but that is not how the race pimps and liberals see it. So one can hardly be faulted for using their terms.
I should have made clear that this was the Vice Mayor of Norfolk, not VA Beach.
But the cause is not race.
The cause is fatherlessness.
About 30% of fatherless you men are incarcerated or on probation.
The problem is that about 80-90% of black children are born without a father, while about 30% of whites have no father.
If you apply 30% X 80%, you get about 24% (a quarter) of young black men under judicial supervision. If you apply 30% x 30%, you get about 9% (a tenth) of white you men.
That's a huge disparity.
The key is whether there is a responsible male role-model and disciplinarian in the home. When black culture allows massive out-of-wedlock births, it sews its own fate.
Black Americans have to create a new social trend: Daddy stays with Mommy. How they do that is anyone's guess, since these depths have never previously been plumbed, or climed out of.
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