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What are your thoughts on 2012 candidates? I am sharing mine and want some feedback...

Posted on 12/04/2009 5:49:30 AM PST by wzevonfan

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To: wolfman23601

Member since 9/2008.

That says it all.


81 posted on 12/23/2009 9:02:04 PM PST by adm5 (THE COMING TAX REVOLT SHOULD BE THE LAST THING OBAMA & CO. SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT.)
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To: massmike; o_zarkman44; wzevonfan; hennie pennie; Bob J; onyx

Palin - ...What else can you say. She has a great record but so much damage was done during the last campaign.”

Few things:

1) if anything the media ordeal she went through is HER BEST ASSET. Palin’s BEEN through the media meat grinding machine unlike the other potentials and has come out stronger. Compare how she is now with how GW Bush was his second term—his administration was virtually demoralized by the media, while Palin has proven her savvy and gained more strength from the greatest media adverity possible. She’s used notoriety—both negative and positive to her advantage, and it’s working.

** Also think about Obama, whose poll numbers suffer now because of the overly high expectations the adoring media set for him. High expectations too early can prove to be a curse.

2) Media savvy is an important strength to have WHILE in OFFICE too—not just while campaigning. In this media age, the success of your agenda and persuading the public to trust your decisions depends on how skillfully you can handle the media and control the way your message is presented. Sarah’s been able to be a trailblazer in this regard with her facebook, OP-eds, etc...she’s practically put journalists in a subordinate position. (I also believe the “failures” of ‘08 were due to the McCain staffers’ decisions—they had a horrible media strategy and were doing even worse before the VP pick—things would have worked out way better had they allowed Palin to fully “go rogue.”)

3) NO SKELETONS to come out of the closet. Every possible piece of “dirt” has already been revealed AND she’s been able to clear up a lot of suff with her bestselling book. People realize that much of the stuff that came out about her were rumors. That and many independents who may have been skeptical are warming up to her. Not to mention there is an overall disenchantment with the mainstream media now anyway.

4) Longtime experience can often be a disadvantage: that means the more potential for skeletons to be dug up, more mistakes in judgment that could be revealed, more enemies made, etc...Think Huckabee with the Clemmons pardon and Romney with the universal healthcare he instituted in Massachusetts.

5) Lastly PEOPLE OVERESTIMATE the impact of the Couric interview on the overall result of the election—on how people come out of the actually VOTED vs. what media pundits and celeb gossipers talk about on TV. obama had it in the bag regardless of who mccain chose and mccain would have lost by a much wider margin had palin not been on the ticket.


82 posted on 12/27/2009 11:39:39 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yeah we should not let the MSM choose our candidate, but then again let’s say we do:

* Not only is Palin stronger for having been through the media meat grinding machine—her FAMILY has gone through it too. She controls her message now quite well. Plus: every possible piece of dirt that can be revealed has already come out. CANNOT say the same for the other potentials...remember? Romney’s wife having donated to Planned Parenthood (and I can only imagine all sorts of bizarre Mormon associations people could find or make up if they look hard enough) ...Huckabee’s son killed a dog or something? ANd Romneycare...Clemmons with Huckabee. Who KNOWS what could come out with regard to the other presidential hopefuls...Everybody else is going to have trouble explaining their long and detailed records which will be full of contradictions to their proposed agendas and other mishaps...Palin’s record is short, yet impressive, and has already been dissected.


83 posted on 12/27/2009 11:52:00 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: GOP_Lady

No thanks.


84 posted on 12/28/2009 12:00:25 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: wzevonfan
Sure...

You've at least 9 un-electables on your list...

Ya got a new list????

85 posted on 12/28/2009 12:01:15 AM PST by Osage Orange (“Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Anyone Who Threatens It”)
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To: wzevonfan

Palin, Demint


86 posted on 12/28/2009 12:01:37 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: GOP_Lady

LOL!!


87 posted on 12/28/2009 12:02:29 AM PST by Osage Orange (“Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Anyone Who Threatens It”)
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To: wzevonfan
At a root level I think Jindal is going to be a superstar. All you need to do is look at what he has done at such a young age and that is clear. Additionally, the fact that he is not an old white male and has a great life story, he is even more appealing.

If he can not communicate and connect with the rank and file...He will NEVER be a superstar.

I saw him speak nationally....and it was frankly a failure.

Oh, I think he has a future....but it needs to be polished without being faked.

We shall see....

88 posted on 12/28/2009 12:14:11 AM PST by Osage Orange (“Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Anyone Who Threatens It”)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I agree with everything you have said.


89 posted on 12/28/2009 6:45:27 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: Osage Orange

Why don’t we start with your list? Then we have something to discuss.


90 posted on 12/28/2009 7:17:20 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: wzevonfan

Would love to see Senator Tom Coburn of Oklahoma consider running. Conservative and strong candidate. Maybe JC Watts would do a good job taking over Steeles chairmanship of the national gop too.


91 posted on 01/01/2010 5:22:32 PM PST by katiedidit1
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Coburn of Oklahoma ran the illegals out of the state. They have relocated in Texas. Sen Coburn would make a great candidate. Check out his site
http://coburn.senate.gov/public


92 posted on 01/01/2010 5:29:47 PM PST by katiedidit1
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